9/11 Poll

i've watched the video of a supposed rumsfeld making the supposed comment. i asked you for the source of this clip and so far it hasn't been forthcoming.

yes, i stress that this stuff MUST be proven to have come from WTC 1&2.
i had no idea that would be such a problem for you.

 

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They COULD share information through certain protocols if it was concerning NON-US citizens: -

"Four years after the nation's deadliest terror attack, evidence is accumulating that a super-secret Pentagon intelligence unit identified the organizer of the Sept. 11 hijackings, Mohamed Atta, as an Al Qaeda operative months before he entered the U.S. Had the FBI been alerted to what the Pentagon purportedly knew in early 2000, Atta's name could have been put on a list that would have tagged him as someone to be watched the moment he stepped off a plane in Newark, N.J., in June of that year. Physical and electronic surveillance of Atta, who lived openly in Florida for more than a year, and who acquired a driver's license and even an FAA pilot's license in his true name, might well have made it possible for the FBI to expose the Sept. 11 plot before the fact. Anthony Shaffer, a civilian Pentagon employee, says he was asked in the summer of 2000 by a Navy captain, Scott Phillpott, to arrange a meeting between the FBI and representatives of the Pentagon intelligence program, code-named Able/Danger. But he said the meeting was canceled after Pentagon lawyers concluded that information on suspected Al Qaeda operatives with ties to the U.S. might violate Pentagon prohibitions on retaining information on "U.S. persons," a term that includes U.S. citizens and permanent resident aliens. Asked by Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.), chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, at a hearing last week whether Atta...was a "U.S. person," a senior Pentagon official answered, "No, he was not." "

Source for the above quote: -
h t tp :/ / ww w(.)wanttoknow.info/abledanger911[/url]

 

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The dust was from the World Trade Centre, and YOU are the conspiracy theorist by assuming otherwise. They produce affidavits, made video tape testimonies, etc regarding their collection of this dust.

 

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So are you telling me that this advanced, nano-engineered material is nano-thermitic paint?

LOL

Thats an interesting interpretation if ever there was one. Although your information is clearly erroneous.

 

Very good point. Frankly, I'm embarassed when it comes to people like leopold in this regard; NIST outright says it never tested for thermite; as far as I know, they may still have some samples they could test. Does leopold bat an eye at the fact that after 8 years they still haven't even stated whether or not they have some dust or steel they could test? No, apparently he's not concerned about the fact that NIST never bothered to test for thermite and has said almost nothing other then giving some lame reasons for not testing for it and is content to believe that the people who submitted samples somehow got a hold of this military grade nano thermite in an attempt to fool people into believing that it was actually obtained from ground zero. He's not even interested in coming up with a feasible motive for people to do this. Assuming that they're all lying and somehow all managed to get this military grade material is apparently easier for him to believe than the possibility that thermite was, in fact, present.

 

Yeah, Trippy has imagined himself some nano paint apparently. I'd go with it, if we agreed that it was for blowing up things (which is what nano thermite is best for) such as, say, some WTC buildings, but somehow I don't think he'd like to follow me there

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and where is all this stuff?
oh, i see, affidavits, as in "i scooped this stuff up, here it is"
video tape testimonies, see above.

prove this stuff wasn't blown off the roof of an adjacent building.
prove this stuff wasn't stored in an adjacent building and sucked up by the dust cloud.
prove this stuff wasn't "planted".

i grant you, i won't be holding my breath.

it's the "it was a bomb" movement that is assuming it came from WTC 1&2.

i know this much, it's been almost 8 years since 911 and not a single person from that pile has come forward saying bomb debris was found.

 

do yourself a favor scott, imagine that WTC 1&2 was your mother being accused of murder.
you will then understand a few things.

 

A gravitational collapse wouldn't have pulverized so much material; thus, it's clearly debris from explosives. But that's secondary to the fact that they've found the explosives themselves, the same explosives that NIST admits it never tested for. Do you care about the fact that NIST never tested for them? Apparently not. What I don't understand is -why- you apparently don't care.

 

Mm. Looks like you just answered the question I'd asked. But not very many people needed to be involved. There are many government employees who question the official story:
41 U.S. Counter-Terrorism and Intelligence Agency Veterans Challenge the Official Account of 9/11 – Official Account of 9/11: “Terribly Flawed,” “Laced with Contradictions,” “a Joke,” “a Cover-up” May 18, 2009

Twenty-five U.S. Military Officers Challenge Official Account of 9/11 – Official Account of 9/11 “Impossible”, “A Bunch of Hogwash”, “Total B.S.”, “Ludicrous”, “A Well-Organized Cover-up”, “A White-Washed Farce”

Eight U.S. State Department Veterans Challenge the Official Account of 9/11 – Official Account of 9/11 "Flawed", "Absurd", "Totally Inadequate", "a Cover-up"

Seven Senior Federal Engineers and Scientists Call for New 9/11 Investigation – Official Account of 9/11 "Impossible", "Hogwash", "Fatally Flawed"

Eight Senior Republican Administration Appointees Challenge Official Account of 9/11 – "Not Possible", "a Whitewash", "False"

 

from Steven Jones "Scientific Method" paper:

"My first 9/11-related paper appeared on-line in November 2005, and Janette MacKinlay soon learned from it that I was seeking WTC dust and other samples for study. She contacted me and sent me a small sample by mail. Later, I traveled to her new residence in California and obtained a second small sample in the presence of other scientists. These samples have been analyzed using electron microprobe methods, both WDS and X-EDS....

The analysis continues to the date of this writing. The dust contains a great deal of information regarding its origin and is proving extremely useful as we puzzle out the meaning of 9/11."

Indeed, the forensic chemical profile of the dust obtained from Janette is backed up by reports from USGS and the EPA as well as a peer-reviewed study in the journal "The Environmentalist" where the unusual chemical species are documented. The iron microspheres generated from the nano-thermite found in all samples have the same chemical profile as those discovered by independent agencies. The only thing unique to Jones et al is their discovery of the nano-thermite.

Why would all these residents pass around these dust samples to a very select few agencies that had the technology to produce nano-thermite before Dr Jones et al requested the samples?

Explain to me the likelihood of all the dust samples having the same characteristics, all the people collaborating and having the same motivation, etc. Thats one mighty bit of speculation. The residents kept the samples for safe keeping, given even early complaints about EPA telling LIES about its safety!

 

i read the first link until i came to the phrase "the chance of these buildings collapsing into their footprint is extremely slim".
structural engineers at JOM say exactly the opposite scott.
i won't even bother reading the rest.

 

I don't trust that you are even qualified to interpret X-EDS data, never mind the visualisations.

Do you realise that you are still trying to tell me that this was nano-thermitic paint?

 

You appear to be suffering from cognitive dissonance: -

h t t p://www(.)onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_628.shtml

 

Nonsense and irrelevant diversions seem to perpetually emanate from your keyboard, Mr. Trippy.

The material is clearly an engineered nano-thermitic incendiary.