How hard is it to start a new religion?

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  1. nds1 Registered Senior Member

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    If someone wanted to start a new religion today, and gain a mass of followers, would it be possible? How many followers would that person or group of people gain? Could someone go on Youtube and proclaim a vision they had from God, and then start a new religion based on that vision?

    I wonder if new religions would still be created today if technology and communication wasn't as advanced as it is. If I lived in the early 1st century, I would have brilliantly predicted that the religion which would last the longest would be the one which occured closest to the era of technology and communications advamcement. Because as soon as that era occured, no new religion could be made since everything that happens would be recorded and on the news. If Jesus existed today instead of 2000 years ago, then having faith in Jesus would be a matter of browsing through the newspaper or watching CNN (or Fox News -

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  3. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Lets look at two 'new' religions, .... Scientology or Mormonism as examples.

    Mormonism, simply a schizm, based on Xtianity, but well managed, this is fairly easy to do, as you already have believers, they just need hijacking. David Koresh managed this trick too, so there are good working examples.

    Scientology, based on his own works, this was more of a leap for L. Ron, but it's worked quite well. Heaven's Gate also managed to sell some new age mumbo jumbo, so again , good examples. These kind of show that miracles being recorded for TV are not required, and that faith is still faith, and anything can be sold to the right market, proof or no proof.

    On proof and faith, I guess we don't expect people to abandon xtianity if the recently reported on coffins are those of Jesus and Mary, they will just alter their dogma.

    So, what do you fancy, space age aliens etc, as the base of your new religion, or good old JC? Either will work, but the bible is public domain, so easier to rip off. I;d go with JC, plenty of mugs already out there.
     
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  5. nds1 Registered Senior Member

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    Back in the day before advanced tech. you could probably just create your own hero and a completely new religon. You could probably even write your own scripture based on something completely different from JC.
     
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  7. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Well I assume you mean a major earth(or large mass) changing religion like Christianity, Islam, etc.

    Think about how hard it is to change someone's mind on this forum.

    Multiply that by about a million. That's my idea of the cult of personality, debating ability, intelligence and aphorisms necessary to rock the world. Then there is classic religion's X factor. The reward for following it. It's gotta be huge, the payoff for pursuing it - positive...at least for it's own participants.
     
  8. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    You find empty, gullible minds, and fill them with crap. That's all religions do, fill people's minds with crap. You don't need to change their mind, just find some dumbass and sell them your spiel. They won't change their mind, esp if you fleece them for some dough, because they won't want to feel duped, so will stick with it.

    Some of the ho's that screwed Koresh still refer to him as their god, even though he was obviously in it for the adulation and the screwing. Get people far enough in, and it's amazing what they will do. They'll let thir god screw their wife, or kill themselves a la Heavens Gate. Religious people really are very stupid.
     
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    Nothing else has the appeal of God condenscending to Earth to help out those who want to be helped, pretty cool.
     
  10. nds1 Registered Senior Member

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    Aside from Hinduism in the form of Avatars.
     
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    None of them resurrected after physical death, thus breaking the power of death.
     
  12. nds1 Registered Senior Member

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    You'll have to talk to lightgigantic about that.
     
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  14. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Well I don't contend that either the Heaven's gate, nor the Koresh cult were "successful". Certainly not as well as even the Aztec religion, which absolutely failed them in a like manner.

    By success I mean to at least over throw what was the current status quo. Yes in my opinion that means convincing "smart" people to play ball too....if even to just be willing to control this new system. There must be advantage for them as well.
     
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    Why not say Baron Max is a messiah, so to get a bunch of that redneck oil money flowing your way.
     
  16. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Baron Max is the messiah.
     
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    You are prepared to make that leap of faith?
     
  18. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    How hard is it to start a new religion?
    In one word: charisma.

    Just look at hollywood...

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    Good advice, be sure to include a devine figure materializing on Earth in your new religion.

    Here's some more:
    http://www.mindpowernews.com/BuildACult.htm
     
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    I would follow Baron Max to the End of The World. My Saviour.
     
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    Untill the third comming of Jesus.
     

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