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Why should they accept partition? It's where their fathers and mothers were buried
 
The Israelis are not required to accept or reject anything. Occupiers always have the choice of going back where they came from.
 
Not according to the Torah, if you go by mythology.

If you go by history, the Jews are descendents of nomads who adopted El, the god of Canaan and transformed him into YHWH. Just like the Romans adopted Jesus and transformed him to the trinity.

The Jews are as native to Canaan as the Romans
 
Not according to the Torah, if you go by mythology.

If you go by history, the Jews are descendents of nomads who adopted El, the god of Canaan and transformed him into YHWH. Just like the Romans adopted Jesus and transformed him to the trinity.

The Jews are as native to Canaan as the Romans

So is the Quran any less a mythology? than the Torah? if that is the Tack you wish to take?

The Ummah is then a mythology, and the Jews have a right to the land they hold by right of Victory over Arab Muslims.

But all to often, the rallying cry is Infidels in the Ummah, the Dirty Jew is on the Holy Land of the Ummah.
 
Your entire argument rests on the fact that there were more Arabs than Jews in the land that would become Israel. It ignores the mutual violence that occurred in what amounted to a civil war. It certainly ignores all the warfare that followed. In a perfect world it would be nice to be able to live where you were born, but it's not an unalienable right and it certainly doesn't rise above the basic human right to life. I think you could make a case for Israel not being sincere (although I do not agree), but that is a subjective judgement.

No. My argument rests on the FACT that the Arabs that had lived on the land for countless generations, were forcibly DISPLACED by foreigners, the majority of which were European Jews.

In a perfect world, were there would be no such thing as colonialism, and your "inalienable" right fantasy would not occurr. But now that it HAS happened, there is NO reason that a CERTAIN measure of justice and humility from the Zionists cannot prevail.
 
Not according to the Torah, if you go by mythology.

If you go by history, the Jews are descendents of nomads who adopted El, the god of Canaan and transformed him into YHWH. Just like the Romans adopted Jesus and transformed him to the trinity.

The Jews are as native to Canaan as the Romans

No. The Jews are just another band of Canaanites, as were the Palestinians. Both the Jews and Palestinians are native to the land of Israel. The Jews were just unfortunate enough to get their asses booted out, and scattered across the Middle-East, Europe and Africa.
 
No. My argument rests on the FACT that the Arabs that had lived on the land for countless generations, were forcibly DISPLACED by foreigners, the majority of which were European Jews.

In a perfect world, were there would be no such thing as colonialism, and your "inalienable" right fantasy would not occurr. But now that it HAS happened, there is NO reason that a CERTAIN measure of justice and humility from the Zionists cannot prevail.

Now you are being xenophobic. A significant number of Jews came from somewhere else, so what?
 
They never got booted out either. That's fiction.

White Russians and Europeans are not Middle Eastern Palestinians anymore than they are Chinese
 
spider said:
Most Jews originally 'came' from Israel.
On that logic most cajuns in the US originally came from France - which does not entitle them to half of Paris, or justify their fencing the Bretons into seaside ghettos where they can be starved at whim.
 
There is nothing mutual about occupation

Or dhimmitude; but you think it has some kind of unifying principle.

Why should they accept partition? It's where their fathers and mothers were buried

And it's where Jews were living in 1948; they amounted to about half the population of the region of Partition, so you can't say it wasn't fair. I thought you were against ethnic cleansing. Maybe it depends on the ethnicity?
 
If a billion Muslims moved by force to the US they would constitute 3/4 of the population. No need for a partition, by electoral representation they could overturn the constitution and create a sharia state, declaring it Dar-al Islam.

Fortunately(for you), we do not recognise such immigration as giving right to the land. Palestinian Jews were less than 7% of the population. Jews who were not citizens of Palestine cannot be expected to impose a right to a land that is not theirs to partition.
 
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