lesbian justice

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by codanblad, Jul 23, 2008.

  1. codanblad a love of bridges Registered Senior Member

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    sorry the title's so stupid, couldn't think of anything more relevant/better.

    my gf's formal is on in a few months, everyone is encouraged to bring boyfriends, but they've forbidden girls from bringing lesbian partners. this is a catholic all girls school, and going on what my gf's said there's about 10 girls who consider themselves lesbians, and a few of them consider themselves in serious relationships, and wish to bring partners.

    is the school allowed to do this? this is in NSW by the way.
     
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  3. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    ok codanblad, tell your GF's friends to contact the anti descrimination tribunal for a ruling. It would breach the anti discrimination act unless they have a specific exception so its worth getting advice from them
     
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  5. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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  7. John99 Banned Banned

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    Lighten up. That seems to be common practice at all schools.
     
  8. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    under australian law discrimination of any kind is a criminal offence unless an exception is sort from the equal opotunity commission

    this even goes for the armed forces who had to seek an exception for male only jobs
     
  9. John99 Banned Banned

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    Schools in Australia regularly allow this?
     
  10. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    i dont know if this sort of case has ever come up before but to be honest our school didnt care who we brought as long as we paid wether we were dating them or not.

    i do rember few different cases that have gone against schools but not on this issue, one which i belive was at an independent school was a boy who wanted to keep his hair long. the school supended him because it was a breach of the dress code. he took them to the antidiscrimination board and won because the code descriminated by sex
     
  11. John99 Banned Banned

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    Looks like you are dodging the issue because i am fairly certain this is pretty universal policy. What about the school you went to, no homosexuals there?
     
  12. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    umm, looks like i have to back down again
    sadly it seems i am wrong on the state act


    acording to this artical in the sydney morning herald schools in NSW are exempt from the anti discrimination act sadly.
    as far as i know this would be illegal in all other juristictions and they arnt exempt from federal legislation so still try the last link i gave but as far as an apeal to the state legislation it seems that they cant unless they are in the state system

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/national...ners-at-formals/2008/04/15/1208025146660.html

    stupid NSW goverment, it would be interesting to see if this exemption would stand up in the high court but i doubt school children have the money to take it to that level sadly
     
  13. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    i wasnt dodging, i was resurching the issue
     
  14. John99 Banned Banned

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    How about the school cadanblad went to?
     
  15. John99 Banned Banned

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    Wouldnt surprise me if he would have protested two males slow dancing at his school dances. No, wouldnt surprise me at all. Especially with a bunch of friends around him.

    Well either way i can see these policies due to safety issues.

    To be fair, there are also many parents who would have problems with it. Just giving the viewpoint from a broader perspective.
     
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  16. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    well as i dont know what school he went to i cant answer that but did you read the artical i posted?

    "Kelvin Canavan, executive director of Catholic Schools in Sydney, said the issue had never been raised in the Sydney Catholic education system but was unwilling to comment on what his response would be if it emerged in the future.

    "If it ever does come up I will answer the question then," he said.

    Public schools in NSW must adhere to the Anti-Discrimination Act and have been directed that it is "unlawful to discriminate against or harass a person on the grounds of race, sex, marital status, disability, homosexuality or age".

    A NSW Education Department spokesman said same-sex couples would be allowed at school balls or formals in the state system.

    "Discrimination is not tolerated in public schools. The Department's policies require principals to act against such behaviour, including homophobia," he said.

    "Further, depending on the circumstances, it is likely that to refuse entry to same-sex partners at a school-organised formal would breach anti-discrimination legislation."
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  17. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    hehehehhe good move

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    however the law isnt on there side if they arnt in public system unfortuantly. there is a specific exception in the law relating to independent schools in NSW which is very odd concidering that if a female TEACHER was to bring her female partner (or a male teacher with a male teacher) and they were refused entry THAT would be against the law because all work places are covered by the legislation
     
  18. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    It's a private school, so yes, they are well within their rights to do this.
     
  19. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    only in NSW james, in all other states as far as i know there is no execption and nor is there in the federal legislation
     
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  21. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    god you make me work


    http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/qld/consol_act/aa1991204/s7.html

    no exception based on sexuality for independent schools in queensland
    any other state acts you would like me to check while i have austlegal open?
     
  22. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    I think that when you send your child to a private school, and pay for the privilege, you should make an effort to find out what the school's policies are and what its educational and other philosophies are.

    If you decide to send your child to a Catholic school, then you should expect that Catholic values will apply. One of those is that homosexuality is a sin.

    It is a bit silly to complain about church values when you've chosen to send your child to a church school.
     
  23. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    james, the laws of the land superseed the laws of the church

    not to mention the fact that because the parents belive one thing doenst mean that an adult (which most youths in year 12 are, they are 18 and legally adult) child belives the same.
     

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