Is consciousness to be found in quantum processes in microtubules?

For example .

 

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GPT3
You don't need to copy a brain. You just need to copy what a brain does.
And that's what we are studying today. Not the "hard question", but the "hard facts".

 

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What "hard facts " are you referring to ?

 

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What we know about the human thought processes.
The brain is a data processor and we know a lot about how it processes data. We don't know everything , but we will.

Neuroscience (or neurobiology) is the scientific study of the nervous system.

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Drawing by Santiago Ramón y Cajal (1899) of neurons in the pigeon cerebellum

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Proposed organization of motor-semantic neural circuits for action language comprehension. Adapted from Shebani et al. (2013)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroscience#

 

The Human Brain also has psychic abilities as well .

 

For an AI that won't be a problem. They'll run the internet via WiFi.....

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Gad your old .

 

LOL, its true, but what made you say that?

I didn't challenge that statement in #1985, because it is demonstrably not true.

But WiFi (wireless communication) is a modern technology and very well suited to AI. GPT3 uses the internet as its "memory bank" against which to deconstruct and compare incoming data and acquire sentient "understanding".

 

What is GPT-3 and why is it so powerful?

moved to Technology__Do you think that AI will ever feel emotions

 

No, IMO the human brain has empathic abilities, which allows for parallel thoughts to emerge, which would be quite natural.

If you wince when watching someone hurt themselves, you don't feel their pain, but your brain causes the production of the same chemical "emotional" reactions as the person who does feel the pain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathy

None of these are true "psychic" abilities, but of course have given rise to to commerce of "super natural" abilities and cult behavior.

However

https://www.amazon.com/Empath-Psychic-Abilities-Meditations-clairvoyance/dp/1801115931

If you wish to experience a moment of true empathy, listen to this short musical exchange of two musical geniuses.
The moment when the harmonica enters is sheer magic! Listen to this with earphones!

 

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And beyond this ? These empathic abilities is what ?

You understand the damage the cut has made and/or could .

 

It is proof that brains do have specific functions in common and can be identified by frequency. They found that aside from other hominids, macaque monkeys already have empathic abilities and exihibit chemical responses while watching someone else involved in some activity.

It goes deeper than that, your brain responds "as if" it is experiencing the same mishap. The more considered sympathetic response comes later.

Empathy is a function of the mirror neural network and is basically a fight or flight response survival response. It allows large groups to behave "as one" in avoiding potential threats.

This is how entire fish schools can instantly change direction away from a threat. Or a herd of plains animals instantly change into a stampede mode. It is the groan of crowd's disappointment when the receiver drops the football. It is the home crowd as the 12 man on the field.

Mirror neuron
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Note the role of microtubules in the transportation of sensory date and the reactive motor response.

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Some motor areas in the human cortex. The supplementary motor area is shown in pink. Image by: Paskari

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_neuron

 

And the Cerebellum importance to motor refinement of the initial movement .

 

That is an autonomous interoceptive function. Motor response actions are purely mechanical . You don't know that when you walk you are in a controlled forward fall. The motor function is purely mechanical. Only when you are very young or very old do you need to pay attention to walking without falling.

This would suggest that at least a few billion microtubules are functional regardless whether we are conscious or not. Sleepwalkers are practically unconscious and act purely on NT control.

Abstract

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4506454/#

This is one of the "hard facts" Tegmark spoke about and was confirmed by Hameroff and Seth.

 

Where is the nervous system here ?

 

It's everywhere in the body.

An average human body has 85 billions neurons, trillions of microtubules inside these neurons, and 250 trillion synapses in the brain alone. That's the human nervous system.


Consider that every living eukaryotic organism has a neural system of some sort, it then becomes clear that the neural system is the homeostatic mechanism that keeps us all alive conscious or not, and may well be the foundation of an emergent sentient intelligence.

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Human are not unique, we do not possess the most advanced neural system, we possess the most advanced brain, that is the only thing that sets us apart from all other living things in nature.

 

What advanced this Brain to be at this point , advanced .

 

Well, GPT3 has 175 billion neurons and its developers say that they haven't touched the ceiling yet. The problem is in the networking of such enormous numbers.

By contrast the human brain has only 85 billion neurons, but 250 trillion synapses, due to the treelike structure of each neuron, which just grow as necessary.

 

Just to clarify to the casual reader my position on the importance of "microtubules" in the neural network of the body as well as the brain.

In spite of the knee-jerk reaction by a person who apparently has never read a word about the role microtubules play in the existence of Eukaryotic life itself.

This little abstract may be a reminder of the state of research pertaining to MT.

Bundles of Brain Microtubules Generate Electrical Oscillations

Abstract

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https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-30453-2#

In all the derisive comments I have not heard one single word that falsifies this scientific evaluation by serious researchers which have not been scientifically resolved. No fatal flaws in the hypothesis yet.......it's a good thing!

This research is alive and well and continues to unlock the role of microtubules in the transmission of data throughout the body and especially in the brain.

Anyone calling this buffoonery may want to reexamine his/her position, else they might end up as the buffoon.

 

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https://www.nature.com/subjects/microtubules