Black holes do not exist

RainbowSingularity said:
and we have usa government released UFO footage showing humans have barely touched the surface of physics which makes the latest jet fighters look like a children's box cart.
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And this has a bearing on the non existence of black holes how?

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Dicart I read the article , but found no refrence to direction , relative to the source . ( Away or Towards ) ( No reference in direction of change of position in the breadth plane ; did it increase or decrease )
 
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river said:
Dicart I read the article , but found no refrence to direction , relative to the source . ( Away or Towards )
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Not sure to understand what you mean.
"Sun" has nothing to do here, like Earth would not have anything to do with the observation.
The Sun is the name of a particular star like the Earth is the name of a particular planet.
Stars and planets are celestial objects.

That said, the observations show that at the center of the galaxy, there are stars that are orbiting around something we can not see. This celestial object we can not see is compatible with what we think we know about a black hole at the center of a galaxy.
We suppose the stars are orbiting around a black hole.

Sometime with other observations, we also see stars being "eated" by black holes.

We also have predicted that collapsing black holes product particular gravitational waves.
Those waves have been detected with LIGO.

LiveScience said:
Seven billion years ago, two large black holes crashed together and formed a massive new one. It is the largest black hole collision ever detected in space, and the new black hole formed in the crash is the largest of its kind ever detected. It's so large, in fact, that physicists weren't sure it could exist at all.

The ripples from that collision reached the two Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory (LIGO) detectors in the U.S. and another in Italy called on May 21, 2019, after traveling through space for 2.5 billion years longer than the sun has existed. Those ripples revealed signatures of the merger of at least two black holes — one a black hole 85 times the mass of the sun and one 66 times the sun’s mass. When they collided, they formed a black hole 142 times the mass of the sun. The missing nine suns’ worth of matter got converted into energy in the collision, shaking the universe hard enough for LIGO and Virgo to detect and interpret. And that's how scientists learned that 85 solar mass black holes and monster 142 solar mass black holes can exist at all.

“This [signal] doesn't look much like a chirp, which is what we typically detect," Nelson Christensen, a member of the Virgo collaboration, said in a statement. "It is more like something that goes 'bang.'"
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https://www.livescience.com/super-big-black-hole-crash.html

So, there is very little doubt that black holes dont exists.

Perhaps we dont know all about this very strange celestial object, but at least the "black hole phenomenom" exists.
 
Dicart said:
Not sure to understand what you mean.
"Sun" has nothing to do here, like Earth would not have anything to do with the observation.
The Sun is the name of a particular star like the Earth is the name of a particular planet.
Stars and planets are celestial objects.

That said, the observations show that at the center of the galaxy, there are stars that are orbiting around something we can not see. This celestial object we can not see is compatible with what we think we know about a black hole at the center of a galaxy.
We suppose the stars are orbiting around a black hole.

Sometime with other observations, we also see stars being "eated" by black holes.

We also have predicted that collapsing black holes product particular gravitational waves.
Those waves have been detected with LIGO.


https://www.livescience.com/super-big-black-hole-crash.html

So, there is very little doubt that black holes dont exists.

Perhaps we dont know all about this very strange celestial object, but at least the "black hole phenomenom" exists.
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Is the " image " a photograph ? Or art ?
 
Luchito said:
Relativity discards itself by its lack of evidence inside its own doctrines, it shot itself in its foot when it used a conventional idea of those times -flowing of time- which was a common understanding in those years, and now it has been realized that such was no other but a common misunderstanding of reality. Lol.
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Run of the mill anti-relativity nutter.
 
RainbowSingularity said:
and we have usa government released UFO footage showing humans have barely touched the surface of physics which makes the latest jet fighters look like a children's box cart.
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Michael 345 said:
And this has a bearing on the non existence of black holes how?

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  • the understanding of physics by current human society
  • verified evidential proof of current laws of physics being in the "unknown" category
defines a logic progression of "un-known higher abilities" of physics that is possible
and thus outside current understanding

humans by nature tend to change & adapt their observations to meet socially acceptable lines of reality laws
while the true scientific observer just reports their observations

a scientific observation is purely that
it is not a religion

  • religion and science are not logically the same in a simple fundamental process of constructive thought paradigms

a majority of people have a large amount of indoctrinated bias which makes discussing such complex issues quite difficult

black holes have been suggested by scientific process to be in existence as real things
equally science also shows us that there are things like UFO's which have ability's which defy current human understanding of physics

  • equally logic dictates
that humans are highly unlikely and almost 100% probable to NOT understand the physics of black holes.
regardless of what raw data is currently on record.

this renders scientific proof & scientific method to functionally dictate by scientific process that un-known physics is not only real but observable as a scientific fact.

note there are other things as well as UFO's which do the same if your knee jerk reaction is to align bias with UFO to abandon the process of scientific proof for scientific process to deliver some personal ends(theoretical ideological motive).
 
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Luchito said: ↑
Relativity discards itself by its lack of evidence inside its own doctrines, it shot itself in its foot when it used a conventional idea of those times -flowing of time- which was a common understanding in those years, and now it has been realized that such was no other but a common misunderstanding of reality. Lol.
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origin said:
Run of the mill anti-relativity nutter.
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We are Evolving Our Thinking . It's Natural . Thinking Naturally Evolves because We Wan't to Understand . As of yet , no theory of the Universe Completely Understands it .
 
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I would a video of post#46 link , to be forever focused on . With the Highest Technology Resolution possible . And from as many angles as possible . Culminated together . Into one picture . 3D ( three dimensionally ) . Continueosly . For infinity .
 
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river said:
I would a video of post#46 link , to be forever focused on . With the Highest Technology Resolution possible . And from as many angles as possible . Culminated together . Into one picture . 3D ( three dimensionally ) . Continueosly . For infinity .
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in theory yes
thats exactly it
but also in laws of current theory it must actually go somewhere
it cant just magically disappear
additionally
humans are not 3D observers
humans are 3D interactive objects
but it is impossible for a human to observe depth of field of an object by seeing it & seeing through it.
so in practicality the human reference frame is objectively 2D

but humans think in terms of possibly 4 or 5 D
 
RainbowSingularity said:
in theory yes
thats exactly it
but also in laws of current theory it must actually go somewhere
it cant just magically disappear
additionally
humans are not 3D observers
humans are 3D interactive objects
but it is impossible for a human to observe depth of field of an object by seeing it & seeing through it.
so in practicality the human reference frame is objectively 2D

but humans think in terms of possibly 4 or 5 D
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But it should be 3D . Three Dimensions , is fundamental to any existence . Of any thing . In any dimension . ( Breadth , Length , Depth ) . Neither can exist without the other . A Truth .
 
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river said:
But it should be 3D . Three Dimensions , is fundamental to any existence . Of any thing . In any dimension .
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that is a difference between mental ability's
Americans hate that idea because they have a civil cultural religious war against science & intellectualism on going which is fueled by greed & user pays money power

it is the alt-right conservatives who pushed the "every child should be equal" idea to balance their wanted life style choice for religion to have a legitimized place in secular education systems
the alt-right fascists then blamed that on liberal left socialists & called it socialism as propoganda

thought experiment for you to answer your question
explain the difference in a person touching something with their hand to feel something is 3D
then explain someone observing something with their eyes to explain how they perceive something is 3D
then explain the difference between perception & fact

a lot of people find it hard not to let their religious bias infect their ability to discuss real hard science theory & fact
both-sides-ism-splain has no benefit to science discussions because they never fix a point to be tested and so rely on people just agreeing without using scientific method

just because that has become the norm in many social cultures does not mean it dictates black hole science
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