A hopeful sign:
http://www.michaelyon-online.com/media/images/disp/Thanks/ThankPraise400.jpg
Thanks and Praise: I photographed men and women, both Christians and Muslims, placing a cross atop the St. John’s Church in Baghdad. They had taken the cross from storage and a man washed it before carrying it up to the dome.

A Muslim man had invited the American soldiers from “Chosen” Company 2-12 Cavalry to the church, where I videotaped as Muslims and Christians worked and rejoiced at the reopening of St John’s, an occasion all viewed as a sign of hope.

The Iraqis asked me to convey a message of thanks to the American people. ” Thank you, thank you,” the people were saying. One man said, “Thank you for peace.” Another man, a Muslim, said “All the people, all the people in Iraq, Muslim and Christian, is brother.” The men and women were holding bells, and for the first time in memory freedom rang over the ravaged land between two rivers. http://michaelyon-online.com/wp/thanks-and-praise.htm

The sectrian conflict is non existent a US inspired media propaganda stunt .
CAN ANYTHING STOP CIVIL WAR IN IRAQ? (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16752389&method=full&siteid=94762&headline=can-anything-stop-civil-war-in-iraq--name_page.html)
Col Tim Collins Commanded 1st Battalion Royal Irish Regiment In Iraq

'CIVIL war in Iraq is a media myth. The extent of the secular state in Iraq is amazing. You have a well educated professional community and there is no desire for civil war: they regard it as an imposition by foreign forces such as the jihadists.

Leaders have been making very clear since the attack on the shrine how far they will go to stop the country being hijacked for civil war. My prediction is that Iraqi society will purge these people.

People have flocked together according to clan and family because of all the uncertainty. There is a lot of intermarriage between the different sections of the community. They have common interests.

Nonetheless the attack will feed into instability in the region, but it is up to the leaders to deal with this, because they can.'

You'd actually be suprised! During the year I spent in Iraq, Christians and Muslim Iraqi's actually get along quite well. I knew many of both who were great friends to eachother and treated everyone equally.

The whole US media is way full of BS. You don't realise how much until you visit places they talk about.

The whole US media is way full of BS. You don't realise how much until you visit places they talk about.

No shit, particularly FOX news..anyone who believes the crap they dish out should be put into one of stalin's reeducation camps.

The whole US media is way full of BS. You don't realise how much until you visit places they talk about.

So there are no Muslims-killing-Muslims bombings and killings over there, Sam? There's only peace and goodwill towards all?

I'm surprised that the US media could cover something like that up so well.

Baron Max

No shit, particularly FOX news..anyone who believes the crap they dish out should be put into one of stalin's reeducation camps.
Its the number one most trusted source.

I'm surprised they could find any Christian left in Iraq.

That ultra-liberal rag, The National Review, paints a much bleaker picture of the position of Christians in the new Iraq:

Twenty years ago the Iraqi Christian population was estimated to be 1.4 million. The Department of State reported there were almost 1 million in early 2003. U.N. sources claim the figure to be 700,000. Two years after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein, it was estimated that 40 percent of the refugees fleeing Iraq were Christian, deliberately targeted in Iraq. There were 20,000 Christian families living in the Dora neighborhood of Baghdad before the liberation of Iraq. Today, there are only 3,000 families. Most are only partially intact, as members of those families were killed, displaced to other areas in Iraq or fled the country. One in four Christian families living in the major Iraqi cities has left. A religious cleansing is taking place as Muslim extremists either demand that Christians convert to Islam, and send daughters and sisters to convert and marry a Muslim man; or, worse, force families to leave or be killed.


http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NjFlZTIyYjZjYjk1NmZhZTc2MmUxNzJjZmI4ZTI0MWI=

Anyway most of them have gone to neighboring Muslim countries so they are all toast.

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thank G-d.

Anyway most of them have gone to neighboring Muslim countries so they are all toast.

Huh? Anytime a Christian goes to a Muslim nation, he's ...toast????

Baron Max

The sectrian conflict is non existent a US inspired media propaganda stunt .

No, Brian: please read the rest of your cited article.

Is there such a thing as a "deceptive posting infraction"?

Awww, isn't that sweet. Mission accomplished, time to go home.

No shit, particularly FOX news..anyone who believes the crap they dish out should be put into one of stalin's reeducation camps.
I'm pretty sure those are all closed. Would a US university do?

In cases like these, my pride shines for Syria.

In Syria, since Christianity makes up a whopping near 20%, we do not fight. Unlike Lebanon.

Syria has the second highest amount of Christians in the ME. Syrians are united. For instance, except for religious ceremonies or places of worship, Syrians are allowed anywhere without constraint based on religion.

Secondly, the Syrian Government has kept both sides in check, favoring neither one nor the other.

And thirdly, in Latakia I lived in a primarily Christian and Alawite neighborhood, but you didn't see people argue over religion.


I can safely say Syria is, for the most part, a united nation.




As for Iraq? Well, a good sign. There is no reason to fight over religion.


In fact, the majority of Iraqis DON'T support war over religion. It's the little extremists and militias that do.



I would like to point out the Iraqi Victory of the 2007 Asian Cup. They won.
Now, what is the relevance?

The Iraqi Soccer Team consists of both Muslims and Christians, and of Muslims, it consists of both Sunnis and Shi'ites.

But if you watched it, the team played beautifully. They didn't fight, and they supported each other and eventually won the tournament. And again, the team is religiously diverse, consisting of Christians and Muslims alike. But they simply did not care. They were brothers on that field, and they deserved that victory.

I think this shows what Iraq is capable of if United. Let's cross our fingers.

Its the number one most trusted source.

That explains alot..

I'm pretty sure those are all closed. Would a US university do?
As long as it's not one of those fundalmentalist ones, yeah..

S.A.M:

Originally Posted by S.A.M.
The whole US media is way full of BS. You don't realise how much until you visit places they talk about.


Oh? You've visited these places? How long did you stay for?

As for Iraq? Well, a good sign. There is no reason to fight over religion.

In fact, the majority of Iraqis DON'T support war over religion. It's the little extremists and militias that do.

I would like to point out the Iraqi Victory of the 2007 Asian Cup. They won.
Now, what is the relevance?

The Iraqi Soccer Team consists of both Muslims and Christians, and of Muslims, it consists of both Sunnis and Shi'ites.

But if you watched it, the team played beautifully. They didn't fight, and they supported each other and eventually won the tournament. And again, the team is religiously diverse, consisting of Christians and Muslims alike. But they simply did not care. They were brothers on that field, and they deserved that victory.

I think this shows what Iraq is capable of if United. Let's cross our fingers.
Great post. I agree the soccer victory was a great moment for Iraqis. And the reopening of this church is another hopeful sign.

Anyway most of them have gone to neighboring Muslim countries so they are all toast.
Baron brought up a good point. There are, of course, millions of Muslims in Christian nations where they are free to practice their religion without molestation. But if a few Christians show up in Muslim countries they're "toast". Is that what you're saying?