Petraeus: Troop 'surge' could end by July '08

Yeah...or we could just end the war today. :shrug:

 

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With a possibility of WW3 happening?

 

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Massive civl war for power.

 

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It's more likely WWIII would happen if we continue to occupy Iraq.

 

Na, too much entertainment on the news.

CNN today. "The most dangerous road in the world is that between the Green zone in Baghdad and the airport."

Think about it. The USA spearheaded the defeat of the Japanese Empire and helped defeat the German Third Reich in less time than the US military has been able to secure a road.

Got to love the following...reminds me stupidity piled on stupidity: \Spin at it's spinniest:

'Iraq's government is "dysfunctional," the U.S. ambassador to Iraq told a Senate hearing Tuesday, but he said the fact that Iraqi leaders recognized it as such was a sign of progress'.

Fortunately not all Americans are brain dead and accepting such crap propaganda from the government.

 

We need 3x the troops than we have now to secure Iraq, otherwise we're (but not people such as the Carlyle Group) just wasting our time in a never-ending occupational war.

- N

 

I agree. We've half-assed the whole thing from day one. Like General Colon Powell said, "When you go to war, you bring everything you've got and had better be willing to be the baddest sonofabitch on the block." If Iraq wasn't enough of a threat to declair war, institute the draff and then occupy with AT LEAST a million troops, then it wasn't a conflict worth starting at all.

~String

 

Moving goalposts

 

I know the expression, to what are you applying it?

~String

 

2003 about 45,000 Americans died in motor accidents out of population of 291,000,000. So, according to the National Safety Council this means your one-year odds of dying in a car accident is about one out of 6500. Therefore your lifetime probability (6500 ÷ 78 years life expectancy) of dying in a motor accident are about one in 83.





how do these common risks compare to your risk of dying in a terrorist attack? To try to calculate those odds realistically, Michael Rothschild, a former business professor at the University of Wisconsin, worked out a couple of plausible scenarios. For example, he figured that if terrorists were to destroy entirely one of America's 40,000 shopping malls per week, your chances of being there at the wrong time would be about one in one million or more. Rothschild also estimated that if terrorists hijacked and crashed one of America's 18,000 commercial flights per week that your chance of being on the crashed plane would be one in 135,000.



http://www.reason.com/news/show/36765.html

 

Dems could have ended the war last January simply by cutting off its funding.

I guess being Dems is what makes being Dems so tough.

 

Naw, Bush would have left our army in Iraq without pay.

 

Our Army would stay on, without pay, because they would understand that it is the right thing to do.

And when our service persons' children and mortgages go south for want of material support, we'll all know who's really to blame.

If Dems would actually enlist then Dems would probably actually support some troops for real.

Yeah. Ain't gonna happen. No surprise, eh?

 

Thats what I call a "Plan for Victory" that comes two years after "Mission Accomplished"

 

we're never leaving Iraq. That's why we're building the 592 million dollar embassy. We're never leaving. EVER.

 

The presence of a base does not prevent the next president from ordering a complete withdraw. The Iraqis could use the base as easily as we.

 

Possibly, but once the next false flag attack happens under the next administration then it will justify us staying there.

 

Are you being serious?

He might've recklessly left them in there under-equipped for a while (meanwhile running stories about how all new deaths are on the democrats hands, as democrats counter a proposal for spending to cover a quick withdrawal...or so I imagine), but before too long they'd be forced to withdraw.

 

BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



capslock, on

 

Ridiculous. It's not up to the military in a democract to determine 'what's the right thing to do'. It's not surprising, however, that right wing whackos would believe such a concept after all the crap they've been fed by the neo-coms.

hint: read your constitution.