I believe that the two are in a constant state of communication. I will not elaborate, because doing so would mean making you more intelligent than you currently are; and I'd radther not take any chances of making you as smart as I am.

Oh please do explain...

I've heard conjecture that when you die, your 'soul', returns to the earth's magnetic field to be recycled.

I believe...

Most fantastic claims starting with these two words are false... statistically.

There are more potential connections between the neurons in a human brain than there are atoms in the known universe.

I believe that the two are in a constant state of communication.

Just cain't stand it a minute longer ...what language do they communicate in??

Baron Max

Most fantastic claims starting with these two words are false... statistically.


http://www.npa.uiuc.edu/courses/physl490b/models/magnetoreception/magnetoreception.html

True navigation is when an animal returns to a place without using landmarks (cues) from the destination and the outward journey (Boles and Lohmann, 2003). You may wonder how that’s possible considering how the use of such information is a typical way of navigating. Just think of how you find your way to the grocery store. You probably rely on many visual landmarks, such as passing a church, a gas station or a school. If you’ve traveled the route many times, you may even be able to do it blindfolded by using non-visual landmarks, such as odor, sound and proprioception (e.g.: feeling your body move forward a given distance and knowing when to turn). Studies have shown that in addition to using those types of landmarks, some animals use the earth’s magnetic field to navigate. In other words, some animals have an internal compass that enables them to sense direction. This ability has also been likened to a global positioning system (GPS).

I'm not going to go into detail, because doing so may not be in your best interest. I am well aware, even though you may not, that thinking complexly for some has it's cons. But simply, if fish can do it, why in the fuck can't we to some extent. Even for things other than direction; like recollection.

Ooooh damn. I'm on fire. I made a rhyme.

So its a symbolic language then?

But simply, if fish can do it, why in the fuck can't we to some extent. Even for things other than direction; like recollection.

In many primitive tribes that have been studied, the men could find their way to exact, precise spots that they'd visited or hunted years previously ..with no compass or anything other than a memory of old landmarks and, possibly, some "hidden" something that only they knew (and might not even been able to explain).

Even today, in the frozen wilds of the north, the Innuit hunters are said to have innate homing instincts that rely on ....something?! And if you've ever seen what it's like up there, it ain't nothin' but white in every direction and there ain't no landmarks, either.

Baron Max

So its a symbolic language then?

It closely resembles CSS; the positioning of memories, but on a five dimensional plane.

There are always subtle environmental cues...direction and angle of sun, shadows on ground, wind direction, and of course the human brain (hippocampus) is capable of complex mapping.

There's a really good book by a guy called Tim Ingold 'The Perception of the Environment' - he deals with the idea of landscape and environments as part of a relational field in which humans are a nexus.

the nexus, everything is interconnected for good or ill. When you pull on one end of the fabric, it effects the entire fabric. the actions of one effect and in effect allowed by the collective, nothing is coincidental or accidental. the criminal in death row was created by the nexus of human barbarity and the hiring of a virtual hitman to carry out what society secretly wishes to employ, rape, murder etc--disgusting. hehe, fuked up.

Wow, this place has really degenerated.

Wow, this place has really degenerated.

i wonder if you say that because its a provocative topic and above your head or because its not the same old, safe conventional one?? lol.

i wonder if you say that because its a provocative topic and above your head or because its not the same old, safe conventional one?? lol.

Solidus is Fred Hoyle's illegitimate son.

We're broaching onto James Lovelock and Gaia hypothesis too...

I believe that the two are in a constant state of communication.

If by "communication" you mean that they interact, then you're obviously correct. The Earth's magnetic field is all around us, and it affects certain atomic alignments in the brain.

If, on the other hand, you're saying that there is some mysterious "intelligence" to the Earth's magnetic field, then you're most likely nuts.

I will not elaborate, because doing so would mean making you more intelligent than you currently are; and I'd radther not take any chances of making you as smart as I am.

But I want to be King of the World, just like you!

I've heard conjecture that when you die, your 'soul', returns to the earth's magnetic field to be recycled.

I've heard conjecture that the Earth is flat.

I'm not going to go into detail, because doing so may not be in your best interest.

Thankyou for sparing me, O Great One! Please, I beg for more of your wisdom, Master.

It closely resembles CSS; the positioning of memories, but on a five dimensional plane.

The Earth's magnetic field communicates in the manner of Cascading Style Sheets? Wow! And on a five dimensional plane! Double wow!

Teach me more, Master.

If by "communication" you mean that they interact, then you're obviously correct. The Earth's magnetic field is all around us, and it affects certain atomic alignments in the brain.

If, on the other hand, you're saying that there is some mysterious "intelligence" to the Earth's magnetic field, then you're most likely nuts.



But I want to be King of the World, just like you!



I've heard conjecture that the Earth is flat.



Thankyou for sparing me, O Great One! Please, I beg for more of your wisdom, Master.



The Earth's magnetic field communicates in the manner of Cascading Style Sheets? Wow! And on a five dimensional plane! Double wow!

Teach me more, Master.

Jesus James, always spoilng my fun. I would tell you to go and eat your goddamn upples and bunnonoes, but frankly; you scare me.

Oh, sorry, Teetotaler. For a moment there I thought you were serious.

Just having fun. Ok, no problem. As you were.

James R,

The little electrical pulses that travel our synopsis in the brain, i guess you can call that a soul as well. Where do you think it goes after you pass, or the energy in your solar plexus. It dissipates, it doesn't disappear. Maybe it does return to the earth's magnetic field. You don't know and neither do I but its a good conjecture for now none the less.

Oh, sorry, Teetotaler. For a moment there I thought you were serious.

Just having fun. Ok, no problem. As you were.

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Just kidding. :)

The little electrical pulses that travel our synopsis in the brain, i guess you can call that a soul as well.

That's not what most people think of as a soul.

Most people say the soul is separate from the physical body.

Where do you think it goes after you pass, or the energy in your solar plexus. It dissipates, it doesn't disappear.

Bioelectricity is a somewhat complicated topic. But, basically, after you die, there are no cellular processes maintaining the potential differences needed for nerve conduction. So, those differences are averaged out, and no further electrical conduction in the nervous system occurs. There's no great mystery about it.

Maybe it does return to the earth's magnetic field.

"Return to" implies that it was there in the first place. Needless to say, there's absolutely no evidence for any souls in the Earth's magnetic field.

You don't know and neither do I but its a good conjecture for now none the less.

Sorry, but I don't think it's a much better conjecture than the flat earth conjecture.

James R,

The little electrical pulses that travel our synopsis in the brain, i guess you can call that a soul as well. Where do you think it goes after you pass, or the energy in your solar plexus. It dissipates, it doesn't disappear. Maybe it does return to the earth's magnetic field. You don't know and neither do I but its a good conjecture for now none the less.

The problem here is that 'synapses' are a bioelectrical activity which ceases after death. If the body is not alive then it cannot generate anymore synaptic activity. Any effect on the Earth's magnetic field would extremely, extremely minimal.

The problem here is that 'synapses' are a bioelectrical activity which ceases after death. If the body is not alive then it cannot generate anymore synaptic activity. ...

Maybe by the time we can measure it, the "soul" has already departed the body and is in close communication with the Earth's magnetic fields (or whatever?)?

I still ain't worked out in what language they communicate? If it's some language, then wouldn't we know what it was/is? Or is it just floating around in our brains, just waiting to be used?

Baron Max

Yep - so there could be some ionic matrix that leaves the body and is stored in the electromagnetic environment...homeopathically?

http://www.npa.uiuc.edu/courses/physl490b/models/magnetoreception/magnetoreception.html

True navigation is when an animal returns to a place without using landmarks (cues) from the destination and the outward journey (Boles and Lohmann, 2003). You may wonder how that’s possible considering how the use of such information is a typical way of navigating. Just think of how you find your way to the grocery store. You probably rely on many visual landmarks, such as passing a church, a gas station or a school. If you’ve traveled the route many times, you may even be able to do it blindfolded by using non-visual landmarks, such as odor, sound and proprioception (e.g.: feeling your body move forward a given distance and knowing when to turn). Studies have shown that in addition to using those types of landmarks, some animals use the earth’s magnetic field to navigate. In other words, some animals have an internal compass that enables them to sense direction. This ability has also been likened to a global positioning system (GPS).

I'm not going to go into detail, because doing so may not be in your best interest. I am well aware, even though you may not, that thinking complexly for some has it's cons. But simply, if fish can do it, why in the fuck can't we to some extent. Even for things other than direction; like recollection.

Ooooh damn. I'm on fire. I made a rhyme.

Some animals can respond to magnetic information, nobody knows how, and you believe that neurons (all of them... anywhere) are in constant communication with the Earths Magnetic field using some nebulous CSS like language? I hope your belief has a bit more evidence.

Oh scratch that post, it looks like you're just fishing.

i wonder if you say that because its a provocative topic and above your head or because its not the same old, safe conventional one?? lol.

Above my head? Please. James R posted what *I* should have, but I've lost patience a long time ago. :)

This place used to be all about reason and facts... now it's fallacies and bad conjecture. I don't even need to visit the Cesspool section to have my daily dose of shit anymore.

I believe that the two are in a constant state of communication. I will not elaborate, because doing so would mean making you more intelligent than you currently are; and I'd radther not take any chances of making you as smart as I am.
Everything is in a constant state of communication. Its called cause and effect. All things affect and are affected by all other things.

There are more potential connections between the neurons in a human brain than there are atoms in the known universe.
Not just the neurons, but the chemical relays as well. Neurochemistry is intertwined and seemingly impossible to seperate by cause.



http://www.npa.uiuc.edu/courses/physl490b/models/magnetoreception/magnetoreception.html

True navigation is when an animal returns to a place without using landmarks (cues) from the destination and the outward journey (Boles and Lohmann, 2003). You may wonder how that’s possible considering how the use of such information is a typical way of navigating. Just think of how you find your way to the grocery store. You probably rely on many visual landmarks, such as passing a church, a gas station or a school. If you’ve traveled the route many times, you may even be able to do it blindfolded by using non-visual landmarks, such as odor, sound and proprioception (e.g.: feeling your body move forward a given distance and knowing when to turn). Studies have shown that in addition to using those types of landmarks, some animals use the earth’s magnetic field to navigate. In other words, some animals have an internal compass that enables them to sense direction. This ability has also been likened to a global positioning system (GPS).

I'm not going to go into detail, because doing so may not be in your best interest. I am well aware, even though you may not, that thinking complexly for some has it's cons. But simply, if fish can do it, why in the fuck can't we to some extent. Even for things other than direction; like recollection.

Ooooh damn. I'm on fire. I made a rhyme.
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In many primitive tribes that have been studied, the men could find their way to exact, precise spots that they'd visited or hunted years previously ..with no compass or anything other than a memory of old landmarks and, possibly, some "hidden" something that only they knew (and might not even been able to explain).

Even today, in the frozen wilds of the north, the Innuit hunters are said to have innate homing instincts that rely on ....something?! And if you've ever seen what it's like up there, it ain't nothin' but white in every direction and there ain't no landmarks, either.

Baron Max
I don't know how this pertains to the quote, but I find that no matter how long I've been parked somewhere, when I return to find my car I automatically zone in on where it is as if I know exactly where to go, even if I can't see it and its been hours since I parked.

I also pick up on subtle aspects of the environment around me whenever I go anywhere--so I can almost always find my way back or find my way there again. I have never gotten lost, even when I tried to.

[i] Not just the neurons, but the chemical relays as well. Neurochemistry is intertwined and seemingly impossible to separate by cause.

Chemical pathways are part of neuronal signalling...why are you separating them?

I will not elaborate, because doing so would mean making you more intelligent than you currently are; and I'd radther not take any chances of making you as smart as I am.

Perhaps this is because you can't elaborate? Either because you don't fully understand, or you're just bullshitting.

Either way, meh.

I'm not going to go into detail, because doing so may not be in your best interest. I am well aware, even though you may not, that thinking complexly for some has it's cons.

Making excuses?

It closely resembles CSS; the positioning of memories, but on a five dimensional plane.

Five dimensions? Which are they?

Chemical pathways are part of neuronal signalling...why are you separating them?

Because a chemical does not have to originate in the nerve or anywhere else in the brain for it to still affect the brain. Look at drugs, for instance.

There are more potential connections between the neurons in a human brain than there are atoms in the known universe.

...Not just the neurons, but the chemical relays as well. Neurochemistry is intertwined and seemingly impossible to seperate...

My initial point does not contradict this statement; so I asked this question:

Chemical pathways are part of neuronal signalling...why are you separating them?

You replied:

Because a chemical does not have to originate in the nerve or anywhere else in the brain for it to still affect the brain. Look at drugs, for instance.

Certain exogenous chemicals can pass the 'blood-brain barrier,' others cannot, and some may stimulate production of chemicals that can pass the 'blood-brain barrier.' But I don't understand why you have raised this in objection to my original statement. Neuronal signalling relies on endogenous chemicals inside the brain to make synaptic connections.

So how does my original statement contradict this?