Limitations of human beings in understanding Universe

Discussion in 'Physics & Math' started by ramapradeep, Feb 15, 2011.

  1. ramapradeep Registered Senior Member

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    Yes...there are some limitations which we have to accept in understanding

    universe.

    First we will discuss two aspects of universe.

    Universe consists of two components-Space and matter.

    Matter-which can be felt and occupies some volume
    Space-which is extended in three dimensions x,y,z.

    Now.....secondly

    We are made up of matter.

    Matter cannot exist with space.

    So to exist matter,space should be available......

    In other words SPACE is formed First and Second... Matter is formed..

    Thus....Matter is present in space


    Now.......thridly

    Our brain which thinks logically is also made up of Matter........

    I propose that.....

    It not practically possible for brain to visuale how Space is created...

    But it can think logically how matter is created but cannot visualize where it

    came from....


    That is the reason we always think of Big bang theory.

    According to big bang theory universe is formed by Big bang....that our brain can

    think logically....

    May be it is correct or not we are not still 100% perfect confident....


    What about the Space in which the matter existed..........how Space is created???

    Universe consists of Space and matter.....

    In other words Big bang is a theory which guesses how galaxies are formed
    ie., After Big bang explosion galaxies and every thing has formed....

    but not how space is created......................

    we cannot visualize it practically because our brain is made up of

    matter............

    I will explain this with a simple example....

    1.You are sitting in a closed room.and there is a person in it.
    We cannot tell from where he has come...........

    2.Now any new person comes into room we can tell from where he came...

    Suppose the person is formed due to some chemical reactions...... we can also

    tell the reason how he has formed.........

    Now finally.....I propose that

    We can logically think how glaxaies and every thing formed...ie.,after big

    bang...

    But we can tell by 100% confidence it is just our guessing....

    But we cannot tell how the space is formed because

    Practically you are also present in matter....
    ie.,Your brain(thinking entity) also present in the Matter....
    Beacuse Matter cannot be created nor destroyed...................

    Who can tell how the matter has formed...
    Only the person how is present before the event has happened.....

    Who can tell from where the space has come from and how it is created....
    Matter cannot visualize it because it is not present before the event

    happened....

    Indirectly it means our brain cannot visualize because our brain is also made up

    of matter....

    Just think simple....you will understand the limitaions of our brain in thinking

    about universe....

    It is my first attempt to propose any thing if you dont understand or didnot like

    it just forget it..............
     
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  3. rpenner Fully Wired Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps, but nowhere have you convincingly argued for this point of view.

    Fortunately, I am not an unskilled and ignorant as you. With over 3 years experience in the disassembly, repair, and assembly of modern electronics devices, I will have a good idea of from where the TV comes and certain of it's components I will be able to pin it down to a specific city.

    Ignorance is not a condition which is meant to act as a pedestal from which to preach inaction -- instead it is a call to action.

    Fight those who advise you to continue in ignorance and hunger -- explore the possibility that you might, through action, achieve knowledge and gain nutrition from which you can grow stronger.
     
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  5. ramapradeep Registered Senior Member

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    please go through the message again i have simplified it with a new example....thanks for reading my thread....
     
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  7. rpenner Fully Wired Valued Senior Member

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    Foul. You have moved the goalposts and not taken full responsibility for advancing the former argument without noticing it rested on an argument from ignorance.
    1) We can ask him.
    2) We can measure his isotopic composition.
    3) We can sequence his DNA.
    4) We can study his use of tone, cadence and language choices.
    5) We can rifle through his pockets.
    6) We can test his reaction to culturally specific stimuli.
    7) We can study the proportions of his body frame and face.

    In at least seven ways we can begin to relieve our ignorance of from whence he come.
     
  8. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    For some people at least.

    And energy. (Spanish Inquisition...)

    Yet it does, since, as you have stated: the universe consists of matter and space.

    If matter cannot exist with space then why is space required for matter to exist?

    Doesn't follow from your own argument.

    Also doesn't follow. It is not a "thus".

    Why?

    Why not?

    Someone ought to.

    Non-sequitur.

    Again a non-sequitur.
     
  9. Thinkaboutit Registered Member

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    Good points. As far as where matter and space come from that is why I believe in a creator (not a god so much as a provider (of space n matter). Looking at your question it's confusing cause can space survive with out matter (it's kind of like a tree falls in the woods and no one is within hearing range is there a sound?) everyone wants to know where it came from. I would rather figure out how to keep it. Instead of figuring out where space n matter came from. Help me to figure out where our atmosphere and water came from to me those are questions that can actually be answered (ps. I think I know the answer)
     
  10. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    What's the difference?

    Can it? How do you know?
     

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