How do I lose weight?

Discussion in 'Biology & Genetics' started by Joeman, Jul 2, 2002.

  1. Joeman Eviiiiiiiil Clown Registered Senior Member

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    I am not fat but I need to lose all my body fat for soccer. I am in an over the hill co-ed league but I want to be in top shape to play in competitive league before I no longer can. I am gaining about 10 pounds per year after I graduated from college. (I put on 25 pounds so far) I am worried. I need some tips for losing weight. I heard diet never works? I heard running doesn't work and walking works better? I also heard cutting down fat doesn't help but cutting carbohydrate does? I heard drinking water helps? Any help appreciated.
     
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  3. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    Drink coke? Cutting that out completely can help.

    Cut down on fatty foods and junk food or take them out completely.

    and I don't know what you heard but running has always worked for me. But it only works if you're willing to do distances of actual challenge.
     
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  5. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    or start to train at some martial arts

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    don't eat junk food
    don't drink soft-drinks

    worked for me

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    . wonder if not too much

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  7. Northwind Master of Anvils Registered Senior Member

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    Tyler is right. I stopped drinking sodas and lost 15 pounds in 3 weeks, just like that.
     
  8. lotuseatsvipers CloseMindedBob Registered Senior Member

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    It's simple, don't eat any empty calories.

    Also, becoming vegan makes most empty calories out of bounds, wink wink.

    hehe, ok I wont preach.

    Seriously though, avoid empty calories (sweets) at all costs, and don't mix fats with carbs ever(well as little as possible anyways - that means no bread with your steak, or no butter on ur bread, or no desert after spaghetti type of deal). If you actually have the self control to do this, you will most definitely lose a lot of weight, and keep it off, since its not a 'fad' thing, just common sense.

    I'm also assuming you have an excercise routine?
    good. On top of that doing light excercises in the morning (a light jog!) and before you go to bed (some pushups, situps and stuff) are very effective at killing fat and take very little time.
     
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  9. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    really?
    Very often before my training I eat a little chocolate, because I feal I'm too "weak" to whitstand it with no additional energy.
    fats and carbs?? I never remember which is which...
    bread with no butter? I always eat bread with butter (no margarine, it's chemical)....So I do not follow all your rools

    except that I always eat only 100% natural food.
    no hamburgers, no half-fabricats, etc

    , but I can't gain any additioal weight. I'm 1.74m high and 55kg...I could really use some additional weight, but I don't like eating much thus I stay at the same weight.
    I think that my trainings influence me much, because I probably spare as much energy during my trainings as I gain eating.
     
  10. le coq Registered Senior Member

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    Definitely agree on the sugar thing. Watch the carbs, like eating too many starches.

    [Lotus, what's the reasoning behind not mixing fats and carbs? Do you mean starchy carbs, or all carbs including veggies?]

    Continuing with the advice, just stay away from processed food, fast food. Lot of that crap has hydrogenated oil (transfats), MSG, hydrolyzed protein and autolyzed yeasts that are added to give "meaty" flavors to food, that end up dumping a lot of sodium into the body. Eat plenty of good fats, such as olive oil, coconut oil (satisfies butter cravings, and is reminiscent of bacon fat, I love it.), vegetable oils, nuts. I believe you said in another thread that you were going vegan, so fish oil might not be your thing. If you are going vegan, read more into soy, which is most likely becoming your protein mainstay. There's a lot of research out there pro and con, such as the phytoestrogens among other things may have hormonal implications --> metabolism of fat, etc. I'm not anti-soy, just so's you know, I eat some myself, just want you to be aware that as it is becoming more and more of a major food staple for the world, so a lot more research is coming out on it.

    The most important exercise for fat burning is aerobic. You don't have to run or jog, but getting your heartrate up to aerobic levels several times a week is crucial to switch your body from a fat-storing to a fat-burning vehicle. A forty-five minute walk will usually do.

    Good luck!

    John Le Coq
     
  11. lotuseatsvipers CloseMindedBob Registered Senior Member

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    [Lotus, what's the reasoning behind not mixing fats and carbs? Do you mean starchy carbs, or all carbs including veggies?]

    It's the same reasoning body builders have been using for many many years now, and the same reasoning that has just become 'pop culture' in pathetic diets like atkins.

    I admit, I cant attest to it being sound science, but it seems logical. That is we use carb storages first, and then go to fat. If you dont have any carbs you'll burn the fat doing mundane things. While if you only have carbs, you more than likely wont store any fat. I don't live by this, but I have seen its effects in weight lose and they are quiet good. It just seems logical to me, it might be incorrect. What do you think?

    It really does depend on his lifestyle and eating habits though.
     
  12. le coq Registered Senior Member

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    lotus- Fats and carbs both add glycerides the body, which is available for energy consumption. Starchy carbs and sugar will increase insulin levels, which prevent glycogen stores in the muscle and fat tissues from being used for energy until glucose in the blood is used up. So I imagine fat that is ingested at the same time as carbs would be used up as well. I'm not totally hip on this, but I will pose the question to the newsgroup sci.med.nutrition, where they're mad about subjects like this.

    I'm confident that a reasonable amount of good fat (low saturation, high in EFAs) with carbs can't be all that bad for you. Now a big plate of cheese ravioli with a couple of beers... mmmm...

    John Le Coq
     
  13. lotuseatsvipers CloseMindedBob Registered Senior Member

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    Yes you feel about the same on the topic as I. It really depends on your lifestyle and what you usually eat. Putting olive oil on the veg's I cook is not a bad thing. Eating potatoe chips with a steak is. I can't really put the difference between those two into words. but thats what I mean.
     
  14. dickbaby Banned Banned

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    Nutrition, Joeman, that has to be the start of it.

    Don't ask your body to carry you around the footie pitch like a trojan for 90 minutes if you're only gonna give it Coke and burgers (please, I'm not assuming - just making a general point).

    I could bang on and on about yer 50 grams of protein daily, green leafy veggies, no saturated fats yadah yadah yadah, but a much easier way is to check out some books by Adelle Davis.

    I found 'Let's Eat Right To Get (or is it 'Keep?) Fit' in an old bookshop a few years ago. It was first written in 1958 I think, 'updated' in 1970 for my version, but I know there have been updates/reprints and the like and plenty of titles are available in North America, where I think she comes from.

    Even then it was very critical of the direction being taken by the general North American diet. F**k knows what the more recent updates say.

    Anyway, she goes into great detail about what foodstuffs are gonna give you what benefits (including some pretty remarkable ones), gives evidence, research, case histories and basically all the info (I needed anyway) to plan a healthy, nutritous diet. Doesn't have to be boring and/or taste like shit...

    Then I began to wonder 'why IS all the bread I can buy now white and full of additives?', 'why IS there flouride in my water?', 'why HAVE all the good old basic foods (natural peanut butter, genuine wholegrain bread, unsaturated oils etc) all but disappeared from the shelves?'

    Yeah, of course I'll find a conspiracy in it, but seriously chap, just from buying a copy of that book I am now a static 66 kilos (sorry, don't do pounds any more), at 5' 10" (ah the English, we don't confuse our systems). I do little exercise, smoke, occasionally drink, eat more or less wtf I like when I like, but know enough to avoid anything processed, packaged, McDonalds etc.

    Oh, and I'm veggie, but that is for my personal reasons and zero per se to do with nutrition, other than I don't want CJD for Xmas.

    Let me know how you get on


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  15. BloodSuckingGerbile Master of Puppets Registered Senior Member

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    About working out...

    Some scientists (British I think. They always do those weird researches. No offense

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    ) did a research about what time it is better to work out, so the result was at the evening around 20:00 and 21:00. At this time of day your endurance is at its peak, so you can work out longer than in the morning (and thus lose more calories).
     
  16. lotuseatsvipers CloseMindedBob Registered Senior Member

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    Ya but you burn fat if you run right when you wake up (no calories in your system so you have to burn the fat for fuel - also you can't imagine the energy boost it gives you for the rest of the day, runners high is great!). That is why I said wake up and jog or something. I also said to do something at night, because it kicks on your metabolism while you sleep and can really shave the pounds rather than store them. I'm a night person so I've always found it easier to work out later in the day or nighttime, so I do agree with the study.

    Whatever you do, its not worth drinking michelob ultra in order to cut your beer calories. If you do that I will hunt you down and laugh at you (everyone else on the planet will think your normal...and I doubt you hold my opinion over a few billion others, oh well

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  17. wet1 Wanderer Registered Senior Member

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    Let me give you one other very commmon sense thought. Reduce your proportions. If you would get 4 spoonfulls only get 2. Never get seconds. Eat slowly as this allows time for you to feel full. (In otherwords, chew it to death)
     
  18. Firefly Registered Senior Member

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    Walking, walking briskly, jogging, sprinting, anyone know if any is more effective (and why?)
     
  19. lotuseatsvipers CloseMindedBob Registered Senior Member

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    Jogging, because its common knowledge that you burn the most fat at a 'target heart rate' that would be best reached when doing a light jog and maintaining that jog for about half hour or more.

    Sprinting can't be done for long enough, and the other two dont get your heart rate high enough. Doing anything is better than doing nothing....
     
  20. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Taekwon-Do or any other martial arts trainings.

    You literaly melt your fat and water away. Just have to take it serious and not stop in less than a half and an hour.
     
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  21. lotuseatsvipers CloseMindedBob Registered Senior Member

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    Magic pill!

    I have the final and definitive answer to this plaguing question:

    "The discovery that PYY3-36 suppresses appetite could be of huge benefit to those struggling with weight problems "
    Just take a magic pill!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2176391.stm
     
  22. Firefly Registered Senior Member

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    Got any links? I'm too lazy to get off the net.

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  23. Lesion42 Deranged Hermit Registered Senior Member

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    Try lopping off your arms. You don't need them for soccer anyway.

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