France threatens a nuclear strike if attacked

This is interesting , this statement comes out as more of an intended warning to a third party than a direct threat to a particular mideast nation .

Power centre , thats an interesting term , more on that later .

Now we know Spain and Britain have each suffered major attacks in their cities from as yet an undetermined origin . On each occasion prior to the attacks on Bali , Madrid and London America issued a general warning of an impending Al CIAda attack in these cities . This implies American foreknowledge and possible collusion with the perpertrators .

Now the only nation that has invented this term is America , and it is America that has been saying Al CIAda intends to use a dirty bomb on one its cities .

I say that French intelligence has picked on an American orchestrated Al CIAda attack on its soil , a very large one at that . This is a warning that any attack will result in massive retaliation and the term "power centre" becomes clearer .

We know Al CIAda's origin is one of American and Saudi Arabian collaboration . Saudi Arabia , through its American controlled oil industry and US political/military co-operation is the main US power centre in the mideast . I think any attack on French soil , France will immediately link it to Saudi Arabia . This seems more of a warning against American intrigue than anything else .

 

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DONT be stupid... you dont give the muslims enough credit for their own actions.

but i say to the french... yeah, you tell em.

-MT

 

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Brian,

Your posts make absolutely no sense.

 

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Well it's pretty obsolete, since terrorism doesn't require state sponsorship. We already got rid of Afghanistan's support for Al Quida. He seems to be thinking in cold war terms, where the only enemies are states. The new situation is ethnic and religious conflict that transcends national borders.

 

Jesus mate , you have America stomping all over the mideast unimpeded .
What responsibilty can the Mideast take for its actions ?

So do I , France is the only nation bringing anything positive to the mideast , any such attack on France would be meaningless .

After reading your comments here about black power and slavery , hey ! no surprises here .

What country in the mideast would want to attack France ? Doesnt make sense . And the only nation that still thinks in Cold War Terms is America , France pulled out of NATO in 1960 .

 

which ones are you referring to.

The fact is people die in these attacks which terrorist groups proudly admit to.

You bullshit does these people no justice.

 

I agree that a terrorist attack against France would be pointless and unwarranted considering they've tried their hardest to distance themselves from the United States and it's actions in the Middle East.

So if a terrorist attack hits France, it would be quite suspicious, I'll give you that. But to say it would result in a nuclear strike against Saudi Arabia or the United States is beyond reasonable. An attack against the U.S. is completely out of the question, that will never happen, and an attack against Saudi Arabia would arouse negative reactions from all the countries that benefit from Saudi oil, including the U.S.

 

Who would France nuke if an attack origionated in France?

What good has France brought the middle east? The Treaty of Sevres that started all of the bs that we are currently dealing with?

 

Meh, France will just surrender
/obligatory french surrender joke

 

Until France makes amends for their actions in the middle east that they made, they should be as valid of a target as the other imperialist bastards that have torn the region apart.

 

I didnt say they would attack America, I claerly said Saudi Arabia . Thats what I deducted from Chiracs language , makes sense .

One of the incentives offered to Iran from The EU is that Iran becomes Europes main oil supply . The US controls Saudi Arabia , hitting that country would do damage to the US . If France links any attack on its soil to Al Qaeda thus Saudi arabia who can argue ?

Thats ancient history , lets deal with now . France got Syria out of Lebanon and organised the election , Syria main political projection is with France , France is the principal component in negotiations with Iran . France has had a very positive presence in that region , leading to any attack on its soil to be done by a 3rd party entity wishing to undermine its standing , maybe Israel could be the object of this warning ?

 

1920 is hardly ancient history, as the region is still suffering greatly from the actions of France and Britian, though now the Americans have jumped into the region to screw it up as well.

 

brian foley:
everything i have read of your posts is pure conjecture and speculation.

lets hear some facts, if you are going to open your conspiracy spewing mouth.

 

The thing is, this kind of a threat is more likely a direct threat toward Iran and Pakistan then anyone else. Everyone knows both Iran and Pakistan sponsors various Islamic Fundementalist groups. The United States envolvement is pure conspiracy, and is not supported by their actions in the Middle East.

I would say Chirac was throwing his hat into the ring in regards to the global Iran ordeal and at the sametime reaffirming the need to continue funding the French nuclear deterrent. Killing two birds with one stone, sounds like good politics to me.

 

All of that is very true, in fact I've heard that the Iranian citizens really don't have that much animosity toward the U.S. In other words, we're not seen as a big threat to them. It seems that their animosity is contantly being directed toward Israel, so I can also understand why Israel would be scared to death of the idea of Iran being a nuclear power. And for the Israeli's, they don't want to take a chance either way, and it's reasonable to expect them to attack Iran before Iran can develop a nuke.

So, pretty much everyone get ready for a Israeli-Iranian war pretty soon, with Israel being backed by the U.S. and Iran being backed by Russia. God, talk about the end of the world, that could easily go nuclear if Israel gets an itchy trigger finger or Iran somehow secretly built a bomb.

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That region has been under a continous time since Alexander the Greats time , to the Roman Empire epoch to the Byzantium Empire , right up till the Crusades and from those crusades to the empires of France and Britain . I cant argue outside interference has ruined the region but I think with the advent of petroleum in the 50's the political nature of the mideast in an economic perspective has taken a new approach . Consequently 1920 would be a completely and utterly meaningless in a 21st century concept of current events .

Okay lets do it , show me where I have not backed a thread of mine without proper sources ?
This thread here I have taken an actual comment that has been said by Chirac . I then have added my thoughts to this and given an explanation and being a public forum it is open for discussion . The other posters here have no problem in discussing my threads points . Thhts what this forum is for discussion , you have problems with it Fuck Off .

Here are 3 facts .
1 ) The link to what Chirac said is a fact .
2 ) The fact America issued terror warnings to Indonesia , Britain and Spain is a fact .
3 ) Saudi Arabia is Americas power base in the mideast is a fact .

Hahahahahaha x 15 minutes This from a poster who cant even back up his claims on my Iran thread against GeoffP of all posters .

Iran and Pakistan have actually aided America in its fight against Al Qaeda . Iran especially with the Taleban they were ideological enemies , Al Qaeda also . What you have to take into account is it has only been Al Qaeda or groups affiliated with Al Qaeda which has perpertrated such attacks in Madrid and London . And Saudi Arabia is where Bin Laden and Al Qaeda derive from as well as its funding . 9/11's hijackers were mainly all Saudia and the effort to lauch 9/11 came from saudi Arabia .

Wouldnt that supposedly feed the Iranians paranoia and make them develop an Atomic device ? It doesnt add up , using that phrase "power centre" conjures up Saudi Arabia .

thats was my immediate conclusion , who else could he be implying other than Saudi Arabia . What do you make of Chirac's statement I found it more of a statement with a subliminal warning . We have no idea what goes on behind closed doors .

 

How do you figure? The US military has moved just about everybody out of Saudi Arabia, and CentCom is located in Qatar. Politically, the governments of Israel, Jordan, Qatar, Kuwait and even Egypt are much tighter with America. Saudi Arabia plays a big role as a leading oil exporter and key member of OPEC, but I don't think that makes them America's "power base." Maybe back during WWII that was the case, but things have come a long way since then...

Egypt and Iraq are at least as important as Saudi Arabia to the region, and the true "power base" in the region has long been America's aircraft carriers, which can easily field enough air power to demolish any army in the Middle East.

 

It's an economic power base. Not even counting their oil, do you realize how much money Saudi Arabia has invested in us? And heck, do you know how much money they have invested in the Bush Administration? I don't know the figures off the top of my head, but it's probably 2nd behind China!

- N