Zarkov
02-29-04, 02:14 AM
Zarkov has been censured in the Physics and Maths stream of this forum by James R, who is the moderator
Zarkov posted to the "Action at a Distance" thread from this discussion that took place in "black Holes: Fact or Fiction", in the Physics and Maths stream
Conversation...
>> 2inquisitive
Registered User
452 posts
quote:
"Attraction or pull is philosophically unsound....matter can only push matter."
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Ever heard of a magnet? Opposites attract. Who's living an illusion?
>> Zarkov
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230 posts
>> Ever heard of a magnet? Opposites attract. Who's living an illusion?
Haahahh, Yep easy words, but opposites contract, the lines of force are likened to rubber bands, stretch and contract.
When you get the observations correct, theory becomes much easier to both formulate and understand.
>> 2inquisitive
Registered User
452 posts
A force that "contracts" is not pulling two objects together? What is the difference
between a "contracting" force and an "attracting" force other than a play on words?
Zarkov then posted the next two posts in response....
>> A force that "contracts" is not pulling two objects together?
For contraction there must be a medium, eg a rubber band can be stretched and then it will contract, a two way mechanism.
'Spooky action at a distance' was one way only, with no apparent mechanism other than "gravitation" ( the only one way force in the Universe).
Stretching is achieved by motion (energy in), whereas contraction or relaxation is always towards the inertial state ( lowest energy state).
Mechanisms are still unfolding, as in electric and magnetic fields. Waves everybody agrees upon... so why not fields?? which are nothing but standing spherical waves in 3D space.
We use pulling to depict "push from the front" as opposed to "push from behind". It was all to do with the motion of the body.... and nothing to do with physics.... but it has created confusion ever since.
:)
But this is off subject see "spooky action at a distance" thread >>>
and
>> Just as an exercise, try pulling a door open, without vice gripping the perimeter of the door knob (this would be becoming part of the door, still a push) or placing your fingers behind the door knob ( this would be pushing from behind the door knob).
There is no way you can, in a physics sense, pull open/shut a door, or anything for that matter.
Force has to be transmitted via push.
So gravity is a push to the centre of field spin (not planet rotation),...... and in the motion of the planets the electric force drives the motion which modifies the contracting magnetic fields -----> circular motion..... however elliptical motion is seen, this is due to an electrostatic force pushing all the solar bodies away from their centres of spin.
:)
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Zarkov then reposted the above two posts to the "Action at a Distance" thread in the Math and Physics stream
Both posts have been deleted by James R, comment "off topic"
So what does the forum think of this fascist science attitude raising its head on this forum.
James R has an axe to grind with Zarkov which has grown from his attacks of Zarkov in the ABC's SSSF,.... he has commented on ESGT is demeaning terms without even understanding the concepts, he has posted degrading comments in my Cosmology thread "Physics without Einstein", which are totally off-topic.
I am sure he has overstepped his authority, in this case.
Comments please.
:)
Zarkov posted to the "Action at a Distance" thread from this discussion that took place in "black Holes: Fact or Fiction", in the Physics and Maths stream
Conversation...
>> 2inquisitive
Registered User
452 posts
quote:
"Attraction or pull is philosophically unsound....matter can only push matter."
================================================== ==========
Ever heard of a magnet? Opposites attract. Who's living an illusion?
>> Zarkov
Registered User
230 posts
>> Ever heard of a magnet? Opposites attract. Who's living an illusion?
Haahahh, Yep easy words, but opposites contract, the lines of force are likened to rubber bands, stretch and contract.
When you get the observations correct, theory becomes much easier to both formulate and understand.
>> 2inquisitive
Registered User
452 posts
A force that "contracts" is not pulling two objects together? What is the difference
between a "contracting" force and an "attracting" force other than a play on words?
Zarkov then posted the next two posts in response....
>> A force that "contracts" is not pulling two objects together?
For contraction there must be a medium, eg a rubber band can be stretched and then it will contract, a two way mechanism.
'Spooky action at a distance' was one way only, with no apparent mechanism other than "gravitation" ( the only one way force in the Universe).
Stretching is achieved by motion (energy in), whereas contraction or relaxation is always towards the inertial state ( lowest energy state).
Mechanisms are still unfolding, as in electric and magnetic fields. Waves everybody agrees upon... so why not fields?? which are nothing but standing spherical waves in 3D space.
We use pulling to depict "push from the front" as opposed to "push from behind". It was all to do with the motion of the body.... and nothing to do with physics.... but it has created confusion ever since.
:)
But this is off subject see "spooky action at a distance" thread >>>
and
>> Just as an exercise, try pulling a door open, without vice gripping the perimeter of the door knob (this would be becoming part of the door, still a push) or placing your fingers behind the door knob ( this would be pushing from behind the door knob).
There is no way you can, in a physics sense, pull open/shut a door, or anything for that matter.
Force has to be transmitted via push.
So gravity is a push to the centre of field spin (not planet rotation),...... and in the motion of the planets the electric force drives the motion which modifies the contracting magnetic fields -----> circular motion..... however elliptical motion is seen, this is due to an electrostatic force pushing all the solar bodies away from their centres of spin.
:)
>>>>>
Zarkov then reposted the above two posts to the "Action at a Distance" thread in the Math and Physics stream
Both posts have been deleted by James R, comment "off topic"
So what does the forum think of this fascist science attitude raising its head on this forum.
James R has an axe to grind with Zarkov which has grown from his attacks of Zarkov in the ABC's SSSF,.... he has commented on ESGT is demeaning terms without even understanding the concepts, he has posted degrading comments in my Cosmology thread "Physics without Einstein", which are totally off-topic.
I am sure he has overstepped his authority, in this case.
Comments please.
:)