Bye.

Well folks, it's been fun.

But when posts that try to clarify the issue, especially to someone who is clearly a student and could use some pointers, are summarily deleted, then I've had enough. spidergoat has wiped out almost an entire page of posts in a philosophy thread.

The level of censorship and "editing" has now become intolerable. I'm afraid to post even rational arguments now lest they be considered slightly off topic and erased. Stick robotically to the point or be erased. I can already find lots off forums like that.

If anyone has any other good forums they'd like to recommend, I'll still check any PM's for a while.

Good luck.

 

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Another one bites the dust?

To be fair he only did it in that one thread, to make a point I guess.

 

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Ah man, all the cool people are getting popped in the balls.

 

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A point? A demonstration that attempting clarification or addressing a side issue that is relevant to a discussion will be deleted?

Fuck that fucking shit.

 

Hmm.
That seems to be a very strange thread.
Spidergoat seems to be a convert to the Rokkon Rules of Decorum?
I suppose he's trying to keep the thread true to the op's original intent and stand strong behind the rules posted in the opening thread?
I strongly dislike the idea of such wholescale deletion, however.

Some questions:

Has spidergoat also done this type of thing in other threads or just this one thread?

Do you disagree with the stated reasons behind the post deletions?

Do you disagree with the validity of the rules given in the opening post?

 

Hey planckster. I guess the only real point of doing anything here is to waste your time typing.

 

Well the point I guess is that such rules (Rokkons' that is) won't get the discussion anywhere.

 

GOD DAMNIT TO HELL!!! SOMEONE NEEDS TO REDIRECT ME TO THE NOTES ADDED TO THE OP WHEN WE'RE ON PAGE TWO AND I DON'T LOOK AT THE OP ANYMORE!!!

BEFORE I MAKE A TOTAL ASSHAT OUT OF MYSELF!!! FUCK!!!!

Moderator's Note: I will attempt to satisfy Rokkon's Rules. Normal rules of moderation will be replaced by Rokkon's Rules for this thread only. Please post here only if you are willing to accept these rules. Thank you.

 

Spidergoat has made a statement in the opening post. A bit belated, I suppose:

So that explains it.

It is tough, I know, to have posts deleted like that. You've put time and effort into your replies and they are just summarily deleted. With a retroactive contract included in the opening post to explain why.
But, perhaps you can let Spidergoat just do his thing with this thread?

It's not like he's doing this everywhere, right?

Perhaps a metathread discussing the rules are in order then and a new thread could be created with new rules?

Heh.
He didn't post that until after you'd already reacted. He only posted it moments ago.
He should have posted it before he edited the thread.
Live and learn.

 

I had no idea that note was added when my posts started getting deleted! State any rules you want, who cares? Just, for fuck sake, warn a fellow, ok?

 

welcome back!

 

We missed you, buddy. Did you bring us anything?
What's it like out there?

 

Thanks everyone. Cold. Frightening. It's a freakin' mess out there. Raping, pillaging, interspecies sex, bingo nights... ugh.

Well, now that my blood pressure's down I need a drink.

 

I think if this Regime continues there will only be compliant introverts left here. Quality of posts should be placed over strict rules in a good forum.

 

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I apologize for my editing of Rokkon's thread without warning. I have since made it a sticky and added an explanation at the top.

 

I think it's a good idea, Spidergoat.

 

Thank you. If members tend to find this overly intrusive, I won't do it again.

 

Guys, we can't simply start bending the forum rules by allowing posters to post their own rules for each thread. If we do, we set precedent. And if I'm not mistaken, only the admins can do that.

 

I don't see how this is setting a precedent for anything other than creative ways to stir up discussion.

No rules are being broken or even bent.

I think this is a neat idea and I'd like to see how it goes.
I think that more thread could be created in a similar vein and this might even prompt discussion on formal rules for these formal threads.
None of these rules will be carried over to the forum in general as the forums at large are not so formal as a thread such as this would be.

And, mods are free to enforce their demesnes as they see fit.
Spurious has already raised the bar on certain types of discussion in his forum and the admins have only supported his decision to do so.

It's not like Spidergoat is going on a mad deleting spree in every thread in his forum.
He's made one single thread into an experimental formal environment.


Now. I do see some issues with the rules given. They are subject to some subjectivity.
Perhaps better rules could be hashed out by those who wish to be involved in such an enterprise?

I do agree here.
This is not setting precedent for such a thing, however. It is merely being done at the whim of a moderator.
Whimsy.
Such has already a strong precedent for moderator action here.

Posters can go ahead and post all the rules they like in their threads, but if not sanctioned by a mod in each case, then the rules are nothing but words.

I should think that no more than one or maybe a few such formal threads should be active at any time.
Especially considering that these threads would require massive investment of time by the moderator (assuming poster interst, that is.)