http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/19/binladen.tape/index.html

Bin Laden Offers Truce in Purported Tape /// Al-Jazeera has aired an audiotape purportedly from Osama bin Laden, saying al-Qaida is making preparations for attacks in the United States -- but offering a truce to rebuild Iraq and Afghanistan


Interesting. Thoughts?

I don't know if America would trust a truce with Osama Bin Laden, as we still have bloodlust after 9/11 to get him.

what a load,bin laden died BEFORE 9/11.

how long do you think you can live on kidney dyalisis in a cave without electricity?

about a week.


not to mention the guy in the new video doesnt look anything like bin laden and hes not 6foot 5inches tall.



the idiots in power should try harder on their hoaxes.this one is pathetic.

not to mention the guy in the new video doesnt look anything like bin laden and hes not 6foot 5inches tall.



the idiots in power should try harder on their hoaxes.this one is pathetic.

Wow, quite a talent you have there.

You're able to tell how tall a man is, and what he looks like from an AUDIO TAPE?..... :confused:

Well he can always kill one of his terrorist to steal a kidney and transplant.

apperently you havent seen the VIDEO,i did.

second,organ transplant is against his religon.

third,by their own admission , the US has blown up and killed over 20 women and children to get ''the number 2 guy''this week alone,id say thats terrorism.


fourth,you dont live for more then a few days without dyalisis if your kidneys dont work.ask ANYONE with any medical knowledge,its IMPOSSIBLE to live in a cave when you need a 100pound machine ,sterile equipment and supplies,and a power generator just to live another 36-48 hours.

bin laden died long before 9/11,hes a propagnada figment used to scare cowardly white people into giving up all our civil liberties for the cause of ''the war on terror'',and it seems to be working,americans dont have ANY of the freedoms under the bill of rights since 9/11,every one of them has been stripped.

apperently you havent seen the VIDEO,i did.

second,organ transplant is against his religon.

third,by their own admission , the US has blown up and killed over 20 women and children to get ''the number 2 guy''this week alone,id say thats terrorism.


fourth,you dont live for more then a few days without dyalisis if your kidneys dont work.ask ANYONE with any medical knowledge,its IMPOSSIBLE to live in a cave when you need a 100pound machine ,sterile equipment and supplies,and a power generator just to live another 36-48 hours.

bin laden died long before 9/11,hes a propagnada figment used to scare cowardly white people into giving up all our civil liberties for the cause of ''the war on terror'',and it seems to be working,americans dont have ANY of the freedoms under the bill of rights since 9/11,every one of them has been stripped.

Don't get me wrong Mars, I agree with most of what you said. I just didn't realize there was a Video related to this latest message.

I don't believe Bin Laden has been dead since before 9/11 though. Whether he's alive today or not, I have no idea. And I don't think anyone else here does either.

okay so you seem to to think it impossible for a an to live in a mountain cave system becuase he needs one lousy machine. Hello in there! Is there a brain working? With the money he has he could have had several hideouts ade and prepared for times like this. When he tapes he just goes to the unfinished sections.

not to mention the guy in the new video doesnt look anything like bin laden and hes not 6foot 5inches tall.

What new video? Where?

He most likely escaped the caves of Afghanistan long ago. I mean, it's not exactly like the US sent massive numbers of troops there to cut him off from the border, we relied on limited numbers of special forces, and on bribing warlords to fight for us. Everyone seems to think he is in Pakistan, and that seems probable.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/19/binladen.tape/index.html
"We must confront threats before it is too late...before the attacks reach our shores."

I must have missed something. Is al qaeda mounting an amphibious invasion d-day style?

He most likely escaped the caves of Afghanistan long ago. I mean, it's not exactly like the US sent massive numbers of troops there to cut him off from the border, we relied on limited numbers of special forces, and on bribing warlords to fight for us.

We did it the same way our corporations do..... We outsourced the hunt for Bin Laden.

apperently you havent seen the VIDEO,i did.

second,organ transplant is against his religon.

third,by their own admission , the US has blown up and killed over 20 women and children to get ''the number 2 guy''this week alone,id say thats terrorism.


fourth,you dont live for more then a few days without dyalisis if your kidneys dont work.ask ANYONE with any medical knowledge,its IMPOSSIBLE to live in a cave when you need a 100pound machine ,sterile equipment and supplies,and a power generator just to live another 36-48 hours.

bin laden died long before 9/11,hes a propagnada figment used to scare cowardly white people into giving up all our civil liberties for the cause of ''the war on terror'',and it seems to be working,americans dont have ANY of the freedoms under the bill of rights since 9/11,every one of them has been stripped.

Do you actually live on Mars?

We did it the same way our corporations do..... We outsourced the hunt for Bin Laden.
Nothing new, we did the same thing with the Native Americans.

CNN is reporting the CIA has authenticated the tape.

second,organ transplant is against his religon.
And so is killing large numbers of unarmed, innocent, civilians, but that didn't stop him, now did it?

Life Imitates the Onion

"Starving, Bandaged bin Laden Offers U.S. One Last Chance to Surrender"--headline, Onion, Dec. 12, 2001

"Bin Laden Warns of Attacks, Offers Truce"--headline, Associated Press, Jan. 19, 2006
http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110007834
That about says it all

Here is the text of the latest.
My message to you is about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and how to end them. I did not intend to speak to you about this because this issue has already been decided. Only metal breaks metal, and our situation, thank God, is only getting better and better, while your situation is the opposite of that.

But I plan to speak about the repeated errors your President Bush has committed in comments on the results of your polls that show an overwhelming majority of you want the withdrawal of American troops from Iraq. But he (Bush) has opposed this wish and said that withdrawing troops sends the wrong message to opponents, that it is better to fight them (bin Laden's followers) on their land than their fighting us (Americans) on our land.

I can reply to these errors by saying that war in Iraq is raging with no let-up, and operations in Afghanistan are escalating in our favor, thank God, and Pentagon figures show the number of your dead and wounded is increasing not to mention the massive material losses, the destruction of the soldiers' morale there and the rise in cases of suicide among them. So you can imagine the state of psychological breakdown that afflicts a soldier as he gathers the remains of his colleagues after they stepped on land mines that tore them apart. After this situation the soldier is caught between two hard options. He either refuses to leave his military camp on patrols and is therefore dogged by ruthless punishments enacted by the Vietnam Butcher (U.S. army) or he gets destroyed by the mines. This puts him under psychological pressure, fear and humiliation while his nation is ignorant of that (what is going on). The soldier has no solution except to commit suicide. That is a strong message to you, written by his soul, blood and pain, to save what can be saved from this hell. The solution is in your hands if you care about them (the soldiers).

The news of our brother mujahideen (holy warriors) is different from what the Pentagon publishes. They (the news of mujahideen) and what the media report is the truth of what is happening on the ground. And what deepens the doubt over the White House's information is the fact that it targets the media reporting the truth from the ground. And it has appeared lately, supported by documents, that the butcher of freedom in the world (Bush) had decided to bomb the headquarters of the Al-Jazeera in Qatar after bombing its offices in Kabul and Baghdad.

On another issue, jihad (holy war) is ongoing, thank God, despite all the oppressive measures adopted by the U.S Army and its agents (which is) to a point where there is no difference between this criminality and Saddam's criminality, as it has reached the degree of raping women and taking them as hostages instead of their husbands.

As for torturing men, they have used burning chemical acids and drills on their joints. And when they give up on (interrogating) them, they sometimes use the drills on their heads until they die. Read, if you will, the reports of the horrors in Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo prisons.

And I say that, despite all the barbaric methods, they have not broken the fierceness of the resistance. The mujahideen, thank God, are increasing in number and strength — so much so that reports point to the ultimate failure and defeat of the unlucky quartet of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz. Declaring this defeat is just a matter of time, depending partly on how much the American people know of the size of this tragedy. The sensible people realize that Bush does not have a plan to make his alleged victory in Iraq come true.

And if you compare the small number of dead on the day that Bush announced the end of major operations in that fake, ridiculous show aboard the aircraft carrier with the tenfold number of dead and wounded who were killed in the smaller operations, you would know the truth of what I say. This is that Bush and his administration do not have the will or the ability to get out of Iraq for their own private, suspect reasons.

And so to return to the issue, I say that results of polls please those who are sensible, and Bush's opposition to them is a mistake. The reality shows that the war against America and its allies has not been limited to Iraq as he (Bush) claims. Iraq has become a point of attraction and restorer of (our) energies. At the same time, the mujahideen (holy warriors), with God's grace, have managed repeatedly to penetrate all security measures adopted by the unjust allied countries. The proof of that is the explosions you have seen in the capitals of the European nations who are in this aggressive coalition. The delay in similar operations happening in America has not been because of failure to break through your security measures. The operations are under preparation and you will see them in your homes the minute they are through (with preparations), with God's permission.

Based on what has been said, this shows the errors of Bush's statement — the one that slipped from him — which is at the heart of polls calling for withdrawing the troops. It is better that we (Americans) don't fight Muslims on their lands and that they don't fight us on ours.

We don't mind offering you a long-term truce on fair conditions that we adhere to. We are a nation that God has forbidden to lie and cheat. So both sides can enjoy security and stability under this truce so we can build Iraq and Afghanistan, which have been destroyed in this war. There is no shame in this solution, which prevents the wasting of billions of dollars that have gone to those with influence and merchants of war in America who have supported Bush's election campaign with billions of dollars — which lets us understand the insistence by Bush and his gang to carry on with war.

If you (Americans) are sincere in your desire for peace and security, we have answered you. And if Bush decides to carry on with his lies and oppression, then it would be useful for you to read the book "Rogue State," which states in its introduction: "If I were president, I would stop the attacks on the United States: First I would give an apology to all the widows and orphans and those who were tortured. Then I would announce that American interference in the nations of the world has ended once and for all."

Finally, I say that war will go either in our favor or yours. If it is the former, it means your loss and your shame forever, and it is headed in this course. If it is the latter, read history! We are people who do not stand for injustice and we will seek revenge all our lives. The nights and days will not pass without us taking vengeance like on Sept. 11, God permitting. Your minds will be troubled and your lives embittered. As for us, we have nothing to lose. A swimmer in the ocean does not fear the rain. You have occupied our lands, offended our honor and dignity and let out our blood and stolen our money and destroyed our houses and played with our security and we will give you the same treatment.

You have tried to prevent us from leading a dignified life, but you will not be able to prevent us from a dignified death. Failing to carry out jihad, which is called for in our religion, is a sin. The best death to us is under the shadows of swords. Don't let your strength and modern arms fool you. They win a few battles but lose the war. Patience and steadfastness are much better. We were patient in fighting the Soviet Union with simple weapons for 10 years and we bled their economy and now they are nothing.

In that there is a lesson for you.

I actually never have read anything by Osama before, but reading this speech he doesn't really sound like the religious madman he is sometimes is portrayed. He sounds quite calm and rational. You can hear more rethoric in the average speech of bush.

Your minds will be troubled and your lives embittered. As for us, we have nothing to lose.
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Patience and steadfastness are much better. We were patient in fighting the Soviet Union with simple weapons for 10 years and we bled their economy and now they are nothing.

In that there is a lesson for you.


I think he quite hit the nail there. These people have nothing to lose and everything to gain. They already had a huge impact on the american mind. And nothing that can really be done about it except by making even a bigger impact.

He can't lose can he? Even if he dies or gets captured.

you win some and you lose some

bullshit
homemade by bush admin.

/nod... tape = suspicious... forgery...

Osama is hiding in the boonies of Alabama. No one can find him there.