Bear with jar stuck on its head killed in MN

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by skaught, Jul 31, 2008.

  1. skaught The field its covered in blood Valued Senior Member

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  3. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Wtf ? They can shoot it with a bullet but not with a tranquilizer ? How hard can it be to get hold of one

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    Poor bear..

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  5. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Oh well it's a bear get over it
     
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  7. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, even being from a hunting family, this doesn't make sense to me. Since it had the jar stuck on its head for several days and was starved and dehydrated maybe they thought they were just putting it out of its misery.
    I wonder if it was a nuisance bear who had been there before. They usually catch/tag them and transport them out. But if they come back, they kill them. Does it looked like it has a tag on its ear in the pic? It does to me.

    Oh, and if you remove all the hair from that undernourished bear, I think you have the Bigfoot from another thread's pics.
     
  8. skaught The field its covered in blood Valued Senior Member

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    So we should just kill all animals that wonder into our "territory". Thats a good solution...
     
  9. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    If they pose a threat.
     
  10. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Yea because we all know we were there first.. stupid animals should leave us the hell alone.
     
  11. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Who posed a threat to who here ?
     
  12. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Its human territory now. Humans migrate same as any other animal. Humans are part of the environment. A bear kills a human and people say "it was just doing what bears do" A human kills a bear and yet no one says "he was just doing what humans do"

    Anyways, as the article says, no one who was there said anything against killing it. They probably know more about the situation than we do. Maybe they saw an animal suffering and considered it the humane thing to do. Personally I think they should have waited for the DNR, but if it had a tagged, it was gonna be put down anyways.

    Do you think they killed the bear because they are gun toting blood thirsty rednecks?
     
  13. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    I get your anger on this one Skaught, It was human's fault that the bear had a jar on it's head...last time I checked restaurant sized mayo jars don't occur in nature. It was our responsibility to correct it.

    With jar on his head, the bear could probably barely see. (no pun intended) I sure he also had problems breathing, so I don't think he'd be able to do much mauling before he was winded out. Plus he was starving and dehyraded. The cops should have kept a perimeter around the bear till a tranq gun could be found.

    Poor bear..he was just doing what bears do...forage for food. With the jar on his head, he didn't have any idea where he was headed, since he couldn't see or smell. I'm sure that's how he wondered into to town.
     
  14. Simon Anders Valued Senior Member

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    Or you could get over your desire to have everyone care as little as you do about animals. You could of course ignore other people's reactions, but you can't seem to 'get over it.'
     
  15. lepustimidus Banned Banned

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    Norsefire:
    So a dehydrated bear with a jar on its head poses a risk? Hah!

    Orleander:

    Humans don't 'migrate', they spread like a cancer and proliferate unchecked by natural selection. It's hardly a surprise that bears come into contact with humans when humans continually breed and enroach on bear territory.

    Hardly. Humans are at war with the environment, which is why their arrival always coincides with a reduction in biodiversity and the alteration of said environment so that it becomes hostile to most life forms.

    Because humans have alternatives to dealing with a threat apart from killing it. Bears don't. For them it is either kill or be killed.
     
  16. Simon Anders Valued Senior Member

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    Actually don't they usually hunt down and kill bears that kill humans? Regardless of what the humans did - start patting the young bears offering them food, shooting them with arrows, whatever.

    It sounds from the story like they did not need to kill the bear. It is possible that there are things we do not know in the story.

    To assume they did the right thing seems unjustified to me.
     
  17. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    It is thursty. For blood.

    Seriously people, at least half of the states allows bearhunting, so get over it....
     
  18. skaught The field its covered in blood Valued Senior Member

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    Its not hunting season right now

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    I think Mac said it right. Its because of humans that the bear was fucked in the first place. We can't just dispose of every animal that gets in our way a little bit.
    Theres really no justification for shooting it. With the jar on its head, theres no way it could have posed a threat. Theres no reason they couldn't have waited for a tranquilizer. The reason the people at the scene didn't object was probably because their all a bunch of gun toting rednecks who like to shoot animals and have no remorse for other animals.
     
  19. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Well said !
     
  20. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Have you ever tried a bearburger?? It IS delicious!!!

    Now had the bear been hit by a truck, would you guys cry about it???
     
  21. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    This is trolling..
     
  22. Spud Emperor solanaceous common tater Registered Senior Member

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    Yes!
    You Fuckwit, we would.
    Having said that, the truck hitting the bear is very sad. The wanton murder of a distressed animal is reprehensible!

    The world's fucked..you've shown me!
     
  23. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Bears are the #1 enemy to society!! If you ever watched the Colbert show you should know it!

    Dumbfuck....

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