World At War-Battlefront Levant: "Gaza Is Burning"

[James R]

After Oct 7 it is.

Wow!

You're a real piece of work. Content to see thousands of innocent people die because of your political views.

 

[Wizard of Whatever]

Wow!

You're a real piece of work. Content to see thousands of innocent people die because of your political views.

No, because of the actions of Hamas and the necessity of totally defeating them. It's war, not an election.
The same necessity and action won WW2 fir the allies or do you deny that.

 

[James R]

Did you vote for Trump, Wizard of Whatever?

 

[Wizard of Whatever]

Did you vote for Trump, Wizard of Whatever?

I don't vote for politicians. When I can vote, I vote for myself (write in) and any propositions on the ballot.

 

[Olga]

No, because of the actions of Hamas and the necessity of totally defeating them. It's war, not an election.
The same necessity and action won WW2 fir the allies or do you deny that.

Они так лояльны, потому что это не коснулось их лично. Израильтяне живут как одна большая семья, и боль каждого своего соотечественника восприримают как свою личную трагедию. Я посмотрела бы на всех этих "миротворцев", если бы у кого то из них убили и изнасиловали дочь, мать, сестру, перед этим поглумившись над ними, и выставив все эти зверства в сеть, расстреляли стариков родителей, сожгли заживо детей... 7 октября просто стало последней каплей. Израильтяне не стали больше терпеть змеиное гнездо под своим порогом. И не надо говорить про "мирных" жителей. Мирными были те, кого жпстоко убили и замучали террористы, а в Газе каждый знает "кто чем дышит", это маленькая закрытая территория, а не бескрайние просторы. Там не возможно не знать, что у тебя в подвале живут террористы.

 

[James R]

I don't vote for politicians. When I can vote, I vote for myself (write in) and any propositions on the ballot.

Okay. Harm minimisation is better than the alternative. Please keep doing what you do.

 

[James R]

Israelites no longer tolerated the serpent's nest under their doorstep. And there is no need to talk about "peaceful" residents.

You ought to be ashamed of yourself, too. Celebrating a genocide.

 

[Olga]

You ought to be ashamed of yourself, too. Celebrating a genocide.

Расскажите об этом семьям тех, чьи близкие были жестоко убиты и замучены.

 

[James R]

Tell the families of those whose loved ones were brutally killed and tortured.

The families of the ones who were brutally killed and tortured are not the ones committing the genocide that you applaud, Olga.

Shame on you.

 

[Olga]

The families of the ones who were brutally killed and tortured are not the ones committing the genocide that you applaud, Olga.

Shame on you.

??? В чём геноцид? Это защита своего населения от террористов.

 

[Pinball1970]

??? В чём геноцид? Это защита своего населения от террористов.

I agree with you Olga, protect people from terrorism. However, children are starving to death, mothers are carrying their possessions miles from one camp to another to escape the bombing, kids tagging behind, hungry, thirsty, exhausted, terrified.
None of these kids mothers sons have ever lifted a weapon.

This is mass murder, annihilation, genocide that should be stopped, now.

Should the British government have attacked Dublin after the Birmingham pub bombs? Air strikes? How about Hyde park or Brighton? Warrington? London, Manchester?

No, because EVEN if those people hated the English (lots do) supported acts of terror, were glad every act of terrorism ended in a life lost in England, you do not respond in kind. Killing women and children, non combatants. We are better than that.

 

[Pinball1970]

Was the UK above this? Are they? No. Dresden and Cologne spring to mind, a very dark mark against us as a nation in WW2.
KILL EM ALL does not work, we need to do better.

 

[Wizard of Whatever]

Was the UK above this? Are they? No. Dresden and Cologne spring to mind, a very dark mark against us as a nation in WW2.
KILL EM ALL does not work, we need to do better.

The object is to destroy the enemy by attacking both it and its support structures. This will almost always result in collateral damage and especially when the enemy hides behind innocents.

 

[parmalee]

I played a game called Arab-Israeli Wars a bunch of times when I was a teenager. Does that count ?

I can tell you this - Syrian Panzer IVs ain't no damn good vs. I-Shermans !

I always enjoy a good Avalon Hill reference.

 

[Olga]

I agree with you Olga, protect people from terrorism. However, children are starving to death, mothers are carrying their possessions miles from one camp to another to escape the bombing, kids tagging behind, hungry, thirsty, exhausted, terrified.
None of these kids mothers sons have ever lifted a weapon.

This is mass murder, annihilation, genocide that should be stopped, now.

Should the British government have attacked Dublin after the Birmingham pub bombs? Air strikes? How about Hyde park or Brighton? Warrington? London, Manchester?

No, because EVEN if those people hated the English (lots do) supported acts of terror, were glad every act of terrorism ended in a life lost in England, you do not respond in kind. Killing women and children, non combatants. We are better than that.

Пин, у них было много времени, чтобы уехать оттуда. К тому же Ирландия - это не Газа, где все про всех знают. Это намного большая по размерам страна. Израиль долго терпел, их спецслужбы (лучшие в мире) вылавливали боевиков по всему миру. Но это приносило мало толку, на их месте появлялись новые. Израиль не мог больше ждать пока у боевиков появится оружие массового уничтожения, у них и так уже появились ракеты вместо ножей. Детей жалко, но в их страданиях виноваты не израильтяне, а боевики, которые используют их как живой щит. Вы только вдумайтесь - собственных детей не жалеют, неужели вы думаете, что они пожалеют ваших?

 

[Pinball1970]

Пин, у них было много времени, чтобы уехать оттуда. К тому же Ирландия - это не Газа, где все про всех знают. Это намного большая по размерам страна. Израиль долго терпел, их спецслужбы (лучшие в мире) вылавливали боевиков по всему миру. Но это приносило мало толку, на их месте появлялись новые. Израиль не мог больше ждать пока у боевиков появится оружие массового уничтожения, у них и так уже появились ракеты вместо ножей. Детей жалко, но в их страданиях виноваты не израильтяне, а боевики, которые используют их как живой щит. Вы только вдумайтесь - собственных детей не жалеют, неужели вы думаете, что они пожалеют ваших?

These are babes Olga. They are killing babies.

 

[Wizard of Whatever]

You all throw the word genocide around alot. Let's look at some real perpetrators of genocides.
Gengis Khan
Nazis
Turks
Khymer Rouge
Stalin
Mao
What differentiates the Israelis (and the allies in WW2) from these is not numbers but intent.

 

[parmalee]

You all throw the word genocide around alot. Let's look at some real perpetrators of genocides.
Gengis Khan
Nazis
Turks
Khymer Rouge
Stalin
Mao
What differentiates the Israelis (and the allies in WW2) from these is not numbers but intent.

How does Netanyahu's intent differ?

And you left out a few pertinent ones, like American settlers.

 

[billvon]

They can kill enough to make them quite impotent.

If they don't want to be attacked, don't harbor people like Hamas.

We saw the same arguments in Germany in 1935.

History repeats.

 

[billvon]

You all throw the word genocide around alot. Let's look at some real perpetrators of genocides.
Gengis Khan
Nazis
Turks
Khymer Rouge
Stalin
Mao
What differentiates the Israelis (and the allies in WW2) from these is not numbers but intent.

Exactly. Trying to wipe out Jews (or Tutsis, or Palestinians) is what differentiates them.