Originally Posted by Quantum Quack View Post

and does that "working knowledge" have to include mathematics or can it be language based?

Example:

If some one wished to discuss the Uncertainty Principle does it have to be done in mathematics? Or can it be discussed in language instead?

It's a mathematical principle, so if you want to make a definitive assertion about it

>>the HUP in contradiction with the scientific mainstream, then at some level your argument has to tie into the math, or else it's simply not honest intellectual discussion. If you want to ask questions about it for your personal understanding or even muse about it without being dishonest about your level of knowledge, I don't see a problem with that.

There's a whole world of difference between "I personally think that ____" as opposed to "Einstein said that ____" or "logic clearly demonstrates that ____".