kx000: I was reading back over this thread and noticed a couple of your posts I didn't see before. There are a couple of things you might like to think about, here. The first one is this thing about atheists hating God. Do you understand that atheists don't believe in God? It wouldn't make much sense to hate something that you don't believe in, would it? I mean, you could hate it as a concept or an idea, I suppose, but not hate the actual thing. For example, I don't believe that Luke Skywalker is a real person. So, while I might express my liking or disliking of him as a fictional character, it would be wrong to claim that I hate him as a person. Suppose that you believe, for some reason, that Skywalker is real, that I don't believe that, and that I hate the idea of Luke Skywalker. I suppose you could be forgiven for feeling offended, but you appreciate that, from my point of view, I don't actually think I'm hating a real person. Right? I think God is a lot less clearly defined as an idea than Luke Skywalker is. Personally, I would put hating God on a similar footing to hating Luke Skywalker. That is - even if I really disliked a particular fictional character a lot, it would not be in the same ballpark as the sort of dislike I might express regarding an actual person who could actually act in the world. The second think to think about is: why would an omnipotent being hate anybody? What would be the point? An omnipotent being can do whatever it likes. It could, for example, snuff the hated person out of existence in an eyeblink. But, also, is this omnipotent being the same one who chose to create that atheist in the first place? Did the omnipotent being create the atheist just so the being could hate the atheist, then? Secretly, then, wouldn't the omnipotent being be content in itself? It clearly wanted something to hate, so it created that thing. What could it possibly have to complain about? A third thing to thing about is the whole suffering thing. This omnipotent God clearly wants suffering. If he didn't want it, he could end it in an eyeblink or - better - choose not to create it in the first place. It would be wrong of you to shift the blame to the atheist whom your God chose to create. You should place the blame squarely where the buck stops: with the omnipotent being who could end all suffering (or not allow it in the first place), but who - for whatever reason - chooses it. When do you think this rebellion against God happened? Or are you thinking it's constantly happening? The only reason we are suffering - if there's an omnipotent God - is because the God wants it to happen. After all, he could stop it at any time. Is your God also omniscient? If so, then he created human beings knowing full well that they would "rebel". Therefore, it follows that he wanted that to happen, which against means that he isn't on very solid ground if he's whingeing about it now. Also think about this: if this God worth worshipping? He could end suffering (or not allow it in the first place), but he chooses to enable it. If this omnipotent God chooses to create human beings so that he can punish them, then he is evil. Even if he is real, he isn't worthy of worship.