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Hasn't anyone ever noticed that we could be burning hydrogen in our current vehicles?

i.e..... H/O combination catalyzes at 3 X's the btu of gasoline and the exhaust is 'heat' and 'water'.....

then each person could be using a solar panel for electrolysis, to seprate the H from water, all over again.....

and then imagine is we had no smog junk on the vehicles and capable of converting our existing ICE's (internal combustion engines) to burn hydrogen is not as tough as people think..... i.e...... just like a natural gas intake but the exhaust, values and cylinders need to be stainless (rust)......

Just imagine living in the desert and all that free fuel from the sun.....
 
Bishadi said:
Who needs oil
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Everyone who isn't a Neanderthal.

Air conditioners, ammonia, anti-histamines, antiseptics, artificial turf, asphalt, aspirin, balloons, bandages, boats, bottles, bras, bubble gum, butane, cameras, candles, car batteries, car bodies, carpet, cassette tapes, caulking, CDs, chewing gum, cold, combs/brushes, computers, contacts, cortisone, crayons, cream, denture adhesives, deodorant, detergents, dice, dishwashing liquid, dresses, dryers, electric blankets, electrician’s tape, fertilisers, fishing lures, fishing rods, floor wax, footballs, glues, glycerin, golf balls, guitar strings, hair, hair colouring, hair curlers, hearing aids, heart valves, heating oil, house paint, ice chests, ink, insect repellent, insulation, jet fuel, life jackets, linoleum, lip balm, lipstick, loudspeakers, medicines, mops, motor oil, motorcycle helmets, movie film, nail polish, oil filters, paddles, paint brushes, paints, parachutes, paraffin, pens, perfumes, petroleum jelly, plastic chairs, plastic cups, plastic forks, plastic wrap, plastics, plywood adhesives, refrigerators, roller-skate wheels, roofing paper, rubber bands, rubber boots, rubber cement, rubbish bags, running shoes, saccharine, seals, shirts (non-cotton), shoe polish, shoes, shower curtains, solvents, spectacles, stereos, sweaters, table tennis balls, tape recorders, telephones, tennis rackets, thermos, tights, toilet seats, toners, toothpaste, transparencies, transparent tape, TV cabinets, typewriter/computer ribbons, tyres, umbrellas, upholstery, vaporisers, vitamin capsules, volleyballs, water pipes, water skis, wax, wax paper
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Hasn't anyone ever noticed that we could be burning hydrogen in our current vehicles?
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We do burn hydrogen in our current vehicles. Transportation fuel is hydrogen and carbon.
 
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OilIsMastery said:
Everyone who isn't a Neanderthal.
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Oil in daily use products has nothing to do with the consumption by vehicle use. (reason of mass consumption)

The technology to remove the centralization of energy consumption has existed since tesla but most are a wee to stubborn to actually read enough to comprehend that.

Hence the Neanderthal is such that would post the uneducated doubt.


We do burn hydrogen in our current vehicles. Transporatation fuel is hydrogen and carbon.
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Which is biomass. Or simply what we are burning is from the energy living matter has accumulated. Meaning in our current pattern, eventually we would be burning you.

But to separate H in pure form, then you have a hot fuel source, that is of resuable form. That is of course if you comprehend and seek to understand.

Please no insults as i am a wee bit more abnoxious than most.
 
People you got to realize that engines can take x amount of heat and expand y from a z amount of pressure...so having something as combustible as hydrogen which expands a lot...
 
He is obviously talking about fuels, not combs and brushes.
What is your problem ?
 
hasn't anyone noticed we have been goofed by the ignorance of our own complacency..


now countries all over the world are in trouble because of this centralization of resource.


the making of another good old fashion war


idea; maybe suggest to our political leaders, that if a company owns patents or intellectual knowledge that will surpress development and have no intent to bring it to the public; that the ownership is void.

i.e.... for an example look up Ovionics... and guess who bought them?
 
Abyssinian kale is an oilseed plant not currently grown in France, but oil from this plant might be used in the production of lubricants due to its potentially different composition from that of rapeseed or sunflower oil. Various studies have tended to show that it would be possible to grow kale in the French climate. Little is known about the properties of kale oil, however. Thus, it would be useful to characterise kale oil in order to determine the value of cultivating this new plant in France. The objective of this study is to assess the advantages of kale oil for the lubricant sector, by examining it on the basis of the relevant criteria and by comparing it with rapeseed oil. The first stage will focus on improving kale production in France. The second stage will include crushing as well as the developing of kale oil derivatives. The third stage will concern the analytic and technological characterisation of raw kale oil and of its derivatives. The fourth stage will concentrate on the industrial development of a kale-based lubricating fluid.

http://www.ademe.fr/partenaires/agrice/Fiches_GB/card.asp?nc=9701C0024
 
cosmictraveler said:
Abyssinian kale is an oilseed plant not currently grown in France, but oil from this plant might be used in the production of lubricants due to its potentially different composition from that of rapeseed or sunflower oil. Various studies have tended to show that it would be possible to grow kale in the French climate. Little is known about the properties of kale oil, however. Thus, it would be useful to characterise kale oil in order to determine the value of cultivating this new plant in France. The objective of this study is to assess the advantages of kale oil for the lubricant sector, by examining it on the basis of the relevant criteria and by comparing it with rapeseed oil. The first stage will focus on improving kale production in France. The second stage will include crushing as well as the developing of kale oil derivatives. The third stage will concern the analytic and technological characterisation of raw kale oil and of its derivatives. The fourth stage will concentrate on the industrial development of a kale-based lubricating fluid.

http://www.ademe.fr/partenaires/agrice/Fiches_GB/card.asp?nc=9701C0024
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Good luck with that. Nothing will replace mantle hydrocarbons in my life time.
 
Bishadi said:
Hasn't anyone ever noticed that we could be burning hydrogen in our current vehicles?

i.e..... H/O combination catalyzes at 3 X's the btu of gasoline and the exhaust is 'heat' and 'water'.....

then each person could be using a solar panel for electrolysis, to seprate the H from water, all over again.....

and then imagine is we had no smog junk on the vehicles and capable of converting our existing ICE's (internal combustion engines) to burn hydrogen is not as tough as people think..... i.e...... just like a natural gas intake but the exhaust, values and cylinders need to be stainless (rust)......

Just imagine living in the desert and all that free fuel from the sun.....
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So far this possibility exists only in your imagination and the limited expensive public relations prototypes of a few manufacturers. Hydrogen does not contain the energy density by weight of gasoline, and is very difficult to produce, store, transport, and dispense. It is not an energy source, merely energy storage.
 
spidergoat said:
So far this possibility exists only in your imagination and the limited expensive public relations prototypes of a few manufacturers. Hydrogen does not contain the energy density by weight of gasoline, and is very difficult to produce, store, transport, and dispense. It is not an energy source, merely energy storage.
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production is basic

but there is a specific wavelenngth and pressure to release H from water a little easier far more efficient than basic electrolysis. From there forward handle it just like natural gas.

Storage is basic. Heck they filled the Hindenberg with the stuff at a fraction of the cost of helium. (US controlled the market of He at the time)

the point is we all know it is slower, but free once the infrastructure is in, an as far as i am concerned every household could be running basically on the solar for water and basic electricity and in stead of batteries store to hydrogen and run a generator on it when necessary.

that wheel will spin, but corp America owns the patents and in each phase, them parts exist.

the reason for the electric motor pursuit is 2 fold; highly efficient and centralization is maintained.

but if each household is responsible then each can maintain there own as well the existing autos can be used and converted.

And then imagine all them countries that could have solar driven pumps for pulling water and irrigation.

less pollution and a whole infracstructure to employ and revitalize without central control....

who wants to build one?
 
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