who made the Nazi's?

Cant you see what hes trying to say by starting this thread ? Im getting sick of it, people view atheists as if they were devil worshippers...

They view each other as devil worshipers too, depending on the cult they believe.
 
I mean who in their right minds would be taken in by a screaming banshee of an orator who flung his arms around more than Magnus Pyke?

Who on earth would quite happily show the way to the gas chamber and then throw the corpses of dead children and women into a ditch.

Who for gods sake?


People that were in a depression and couldn't afford food for their children, that's who.
 
The Atheists ! Atheists did it ! The atheists are responsile for everything bad in this world !!

Its a nonsense to suggest that without any clear spiritual foundation we would have become civilised. Atheism merely suggests..'every man for himself' and it certainly would in Ancient times.

I'm not suggesting the same nowadays or even that the Nazi's were atheists as such. Lets just say they relegated religion to the background.

The fact remains that most of the bloodshed during the 20th century was the result of atheist ideologues. It's typically sloppy Dawkinesque thinking to blame religion for violence when in modern times the precise reverse is the case...no Spirituality= More Death.

Zev and his rabid tribe are all to swift to blame religion yet are silent when an atheistic faith - such as that of Stalin or Mao Tse-tung - wreaks destruction on millions upon millions of lives.

Mind you I wouldnt expect anything else from someone who views Terry Shiavo as material for cheap gags.
 
Its a nonsense to suggest that without any clear spiritual foundation we would have become civilised. Atheism merely suggests..'every man for himself' and it certainly would in Ancient times.

I'm not suggesting the same nowadays or even that the Nazi's were atheists as such. Lets just say they relegated religion to the background.

The fact remains that most of the bloodshed during the 20th century was the result of atheist ideologues. It's typically sloppy Dawkinesque thinking to blame religion for violence when in modern times the precise reverse is the case...no Spirituality= More Death.

Zev and his rabid tribe are all to swift to blame religion yet are silent when an atheistic faith - such as that of Stalin or Mao Tse-tung - wreaks destruction on millions upon millions of lives.

Mind you I wouldn't expect anything else from someone who views Terry Shiavo as material for cheap gags.



Where do you get your historical facts from? Atheists don't say "every man for himself " that I've ever heard of. Can you please provide a link to anywhere that quote can be substantiated?


Nazis were mostly Catholic as were a majority of the people living in Germany at that time. On their belt buckles they had a saying " God is with us".


Seems to me you twist historical facts into whatever your mind thinks it should have been not the way it was. Most leaders during the 20 century were not atheists but devoted religious people of one type of religion or another but most were associated with Christanity.
 
Where do you get your historical facts from? Atheists don't say "every man for himself " that I've ever heard of. Can you please provide a link to anywhere that quote can be substantiated?
Didn't you know?
Billy makes up his "facts" if he can't find anything else to support his views.
 
Its a nonsense to suggest that without any clear spiritual foundation we would have become civilised. Atheism merely suggests..'every man for himself' and it certainly would in Ancient times.

Nonsense. Atheism suggests no such thing. Spiritual foundation has nothing to do with civility, history has already shown that to be false.

I'm not suggesting the same nowadays or even that the Nazi's were atheists as such. Lets just say they relegated religion to the background.

No, they did not. In fact, the rise of Positive Christianity came to the forefront of Nazism up until it's decline in 1945.

The fact remains that most of the bloodshed during the 20th century was the result of atheist ideologues. It's typically sloppy Dawkinesque thinking to blame religion for violence when in modern times the precise reverse is the case...no Spirituality= More Death.

Can you provide any examples?

Zev and his rabid tribe are all to swift to blame religion yet are silent when an atheistic faith - such as that of Stalin or Mao Tse-tung - wreaks destruction on millions upon millions of lives.

Stalin and Mao were not driven by atheism.
 
Billy Chyldyshe said:
It's typically sloppy Dawkinesque thinking to blame religion for violence when in modern times the precise reverse is the case...
Examples please..

Or do you mean that in modern times atheism is blamed for voilence.. :rolleyes:
 
Lets start with Stalin.

Soviet Union, Stalin's regime (1924-53): 20, 000, 000 dead!

At a very conservative estimate....and moreover - most were his OWN people.
 
<< No, they did not. In fact, the rise of Positive Christianity came to the forefront of Nazism up until it's decline in 1945. >>

You're avin a larf, mate.

Nazism related to Christianity?

One of the first things Hitler did was to seperate the Church from the State...Hitler didn't want religious leaders to cramp his style....thats not to say ALL religion is wonderful. For example..the Pope at the time barely lifted a finger.

You've completely missed the point though...were the First World War and the Second World War anything to do with religion - NO.

Was Stalin a result of Communism...a negation of Religion...are you happy at his record as an Atheist....the biggest Mass murderer in history?

And what about Chairman Mao...since when has HE been seen as religious in any sense of the word?
 
<< No, they did not. In fact, the rise of Positive Christianity came to the forefront of Nazism up until it's decline in 1945. >>

You're avin a larf, mate.

Nazism related to Christianity?

One of the first things Hitler did was to seperate the Church from the State...Hitler didn't want religious leaders to cramp his style....thats not to say ALL religion is wonderful. For example..the Pope at the time barely lifted a finger.

You've completely missed the point though...were the First World War and the Second World War anything to do with religion - NO.

Was Stalin a result of Communism...a negation of Religion...are you happy at his record as an Atheist....the biggest Mass murderer in history?

And what about Chairman Mao...since when has HE been seen as religious in any sense of the word?

Communism != Atheism :bugeye:
 
In Soviet times religion was banned, and it seemed that people became atheists. Who can say how many people stopped believing? As soon as churches were opened again, people started to attend because, by his very nature, man is programmed to believe in a supreme power. Mankind without religion is mankind out of control."

If for no other reason, the psychologist says, humankind needs to believe in a supreme being for the sake of discipline.

The Communists, she says, cultivated atheist leaders whose "god" was the party and who feared party punishment. For that reason (the fear of reprimand for "sins") they believed in their own morality.

"The Soviet regime was just a lame political experiment by people who, among other mistakes, devalued religion, a million-year-old component of man's mentality," Nalchajian says. "They created a generation of people who feared other people, instead of fearing gods. But man could worship only gods. This explains why regimes are temporary, but religion is eternal."
 
Don't you know what Communism is, Enmos?

...go and google and waste a few hours instead of asking daft questions.

com·mu·nism
–noun
1. a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.
2. (often initial capital letter) a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party.
3. (initial capital letter) the principles and practices of the Communist party.

A·the·ism
-noun
1. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.
2. The doctrine that there is no God or gods.
 
Mere semantics..

read a history book and stop stalking me..I don't mind being stalked..I welcome it..just as long as its female and intelligent. All of which dont apply to you.
 
Mere semantics..

read a history book and stop stalking me..I don't mind being stalked..I welcome it..just as long as its female and intelligent. All of which dont apply to you.

Mere semantics !? LOL

Stalking you ? You wish... but i dont think its coincidence either.
Your threads are at the very least provoking rational people to react to your stupidity.
This thread however is an outright accusation of mass-murder directed at atheists. Although i dont know what you are trying to achieve here its quite an insult to any atheist (maybe that IS what you are trying achieve).
So dont be surprised if atheists react to this type of garbage.
 
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