Who here is capable of deciding what is not valid science vis a vis exclusion of pseudoscientists from posting in the Science sub-forums?

Wizard of Whatever said:
You are probably correct for you and some others, but not for all.

I'm really no big deal, I have just been through the school of hard knocks and a living hell and learned and evolved from the experiences.
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So, you lived in a trailer park and were physically and mentally abused by your parents who were alcoholics and/or drug addicts?
 
Pinball1970 said:
You have been and are being a little bit aggressive.

What happened? What were the hard knocks? Living hell?

Give us some perspective and things might be different.
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I am not being aggressive. In fact I am holding back to avoid bans. I woke up becoming really aware for the first time and soon after began experiencing an internal hell of voices, visions, unwanted thoughts, pain and suffering. This has continued. As a result working was difficult, but got a little better with time. Most of my life I was supported by friends and handouts. I have had for a long while severe rheumatoid arthritis. Only two thumbs and two hals fingers are usable. I type with my right thumb only.

Now you know the source of my path.
 
Wizard of Whatever said:
I am not being aggressive. In fact I am holding back to avoid bans. I woke up becoming really aware for the first time and soon after began experiencing an internal hell of voices, visions, unwanted thoughts, pain and suffering. This has continued. As a result working was difficult, but got a little better with time. Most of my life I was supported by friends and handouts. I have had for a long while severe rheumatoid arthritis. Only two thumbs and two hals fingers are usable. I type with my right thumb only.

Now you know the source of my path.
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Ok, that's sounds rough. I am blessed with an okay body relatively speaking.

We all have our life stories and good and bad experiences. If you come to a science platform with fringe views you will get challenged, not because posters are trying to put you down, they have experience and have studied this stuff.
If you come on a platform saying, "I know the truth, the true self, most people are wrong" kind of stuff you surely expect some confrontation?

You will get better responses with a little humility and less anger.
 
billvon said:
Your words: " I try to enlighten those less intelligent than I." Quite noble to lower yourself thusly, especially to people who cannot see your obvious superiority.
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Your sarcasm is annoying. I don't see it lowering myself, just the opposite. I am not superior just a graduate of the school of hard knocks and the path through hell.
 
Pinball1970 said:
Ok, that's sounds rough. I am blessed with an okay body relatively speaking.

We all have our life stories and good and bad experiences. If you come to a science platform with fringe views you will get challenged, not because posters are trying to put you down, they have experience and have studied this stuff.
If you come on a platform saying, "I know the truth, the true self, most people are wrong" kind of stuff you surely expect some confrontation?

You will get better responses with a little humility and less anger.
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I can only tell the truth that I have learned through life. Anything else would be denying who and what I am. To deny ones self is the worst thing one can do.
 
Sarkus said:
There is one active moderator at the moment. So who will hear the appeal?
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Appeal about what? What is science and pseudoscience? If it is deemed pseudoscience it still can be discussed as if it were science.
Discuss, the published literature, the scientific consensus, what work could be done going forward etc.

Nothing is off the table, we discussed UFOs and Bigfoot for months and we have a, black holes are fake, moon landings are fake, threads.
 
Pinball1970 said:
Appeal about what?
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The question was whether there were chances to appeal (see #32). It doesn't matter what the appeal is about, or what the initial ruling was. The fact remains that if one does try to appeal, we are in the position with just one active moderator. So it will be that moderator who not only makes the initial ruling but would also look at any appeal.
Simple as that. Nothing more. Nothing less.
 
Sarkus said:
The question was whether there were chances to appeal (see #32).
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WoW would be the appealer; James would be the appealee. Why would this be a problem? This is a privately-run site. One man's fiat is perfectly valid.

Ah, you mean appeal the mod's decision? Not sure why that's necessary.

That being said, it is not entirely on the shoulders of the mod(s). The owner(s) may be silent, but they have had influence over the direction and scope of the site in the past. I was there.

So, if the mod sees it as warranted (and there's no reason why he is obliged to), he can go to the site owner(s).
 
Sarkus said:
The question was whether there were chances to appeal (see #32). It doesn't matter what the appeal is about, or what the initial ruling was. The fact remains that if one does try to appeal, we are in the position with just one active moderator. So it will be that moderator who not only makes the initial ruling but would also look at any appeal.
Simple as that. Nothing more. Nothing less.
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Ok right, we just have the one Mod in James. That's what the site is at the moment, one active mod.
I think James is more than enough for this matter, science V pseudoscience.
 
DaveC426913 said:
WoW would be the appealer; James would be the appealee. Why would this be a problem? This is a privately-run site. One man's fiat is perfectly valid.

Ah, you mean appeal the mod's decision? Not sure why that's necessary.

That being said, it is not entirely on the shoulders of the mod(s). The owner(s) may be silent, but they have had influence over the direction and scope of the site in the past. I was there.

So, if the mod sees it as warranted (and there's no reason why he is obliged to), he can go to the site owner(s).
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Oh right gotcha, appeal a mod decision? Well that's a no then.
 
Pinball1970 said:
Oh right gotcha, appeal a mod decision? Well that's a no then.
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No, I get the point, at least, in principle.

This isn't a question of appeal of one thread. It's an appeal to the direction of the site content itself.

I've made such appeals myself, in the past.

That's what this sub-forum is for. To discuss it as an open-government issue.

We can talk among ourselves about it; mod/owners may or may not weigh in. But I very much doubt they will - or should - at this initial stage. The complaint isn't yet even formally cohesive, let alone any consensus reached.

And I doubt it will ever be cohesed; the appealer has made it clear they're only here provisionally anyway, and only for their own amusement. They've all but confessed to trolling - "feeding the monkeys" or whatever it was". They can't unring that bell and pretend they have the site's betterment at-heart.

But James has never shied away from letting people talk. So let em talk. I think it will be good* for WoW to reveal his thoughts on the issue.

*good for us to see; not necessarily good for Wow, judging by what we've seen so far.
 
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