. You’re the only one in this thread insulting and ranting. You’re usually the only one, I’ve noticed.
We enter the bubble world.
In point of fact, I'm the one not insulting, or ranting, or posting falsehoods about other people. If you find that difficult to believe, simply reread your posts and imagine me posting anything like that directed to you. Or check out
If I'm an innocent bystander reading through this thread, it would seem that if one isn't supportive of the Democratic party, then he/she might as well be a Republican. Am I interpreting that correctly?
No. You are once again parroting Republican spin.
Nothing in this thread sets up any such "bothsides" situation except your own posting, which does.
Perhaps it's the accusation that I'm parroting ''Republican propaganda'' which doesn't make much sense to me, considering that I've recently been wanting to gain a better understanding of current events without the spin, and have formed my opinions about Republicans and Democrats, from my own experiences and observations.
It's an observation, not an "accusation". And it is completely accurate.
You are claiming to have arrived at the exact same viewpoints, vocabulary, priorities, rhetorical formats, and erroneous revisions of established historical and political fact,
- not just the same general assessments and opinions, in other words, but the same factual errors and bullshit phrases and unwarranted assumptions
- as the Republican media propagandists have been pushing for decades now in their billion dollar media campaign to change the terms and ideological framework of American politics, and successfully imposed on all the major news outlets in the US,
completely and exclusively via your own firsthand experience with physical reality and personal observations. By coincidence, in other words (the errors and false revisions of history and misrepresenting vocabulary cannot be via common source in reality).
That is essentially impossible. You would be more likely to have won the lottery, or broken the house in Las Vegas.
No one is questioning your desire to gain better understanding, etc etc. Your sincerity is not in doubt, your person has never been criticized or even questioned. No one has called you names, even when you posted slander and falsehood. No one has even called you a Republican - which would be namecalling in this context. But you are in fact posting Republican propaganda - same vocabulary, same "bothsides" rhetoric, same errors of historical and political fact, same viewpoint of "the media", same declaration of an inability to find straight news while demonstrating an inability to recognize it outside of the Republican propaganda pushed "both sides" frame you have explicitly bought into, same everything,
and now you present the same basic reaction as every stereotypical Republican defender here has to being informed - politely, in civil and courteous terms, and with multiple examples directly quoted - that what you have been posting is largely identical with that professionally generated Republican Party propaganda. You start calling people "liars", accusing them of personal harassment, endorsing posts like #64 here (a straight up attempt at bullying, btw - so now you know what that looks like, and what it looks like to be accused of that by me), acting as though people were picking on you for having opinions they disagree with, etc.
Take it as a reality check: you say you want to free yourself from Partisan rhetoric and bs, and find instead sources of straight and accurate news reporting; that implies you do not want to remain in the bubble world of Republican Party media corruption.
So are you willing to step outside it? Accept information from outside "bothsides"? Give straight news its due regard?
That said, there are left news outlets who focus on Trump, and while that's fine, I just don't want to hear '' Trump is at it again...'' as an example. I just want the news, without the spin.
You will have to, at some point in your escape from the Republican bubble, learn to identify a"left" news outlet. The identifications you have posted so far on these threads are straight from the Republican propaganda spin marketers.
If you think a "left" news outlet is one that focuses on spinning "Trump at it again" (which is an obsession of rightwing propaganda feeds, by turns defending, deflecting to Hillary or Obama, and lifeboat building), if you still think CNN or MSNBC is a "left" news outlet, you have a lot to learn. But a sincere effort would not take that much time.
Suggestion:
1)Thom Hartmann's dull and undramatic call-in show, which is televised on Free Speech TV. He is the best informed news and analysis show anchor you will find on TV - if solid information is what you want, there you will find it. Lefty viewpoint, of course.
2) "Vice" - a showcase of sort of filmed magazine articles, which often presents a left viewpoint on its topics as well as the standard American capitalist take. That would fit well with a "both sides" approach that did in fact incorporate two or more "sides".
3) An archive of major US news articles, opinion essays, and TV reports from August of 2002 until August of 2003 (covering the last few weeks of the elections of 2002, the gut check War Powers vote that 135 Democrats and a couple of Republicans passed, and the beginning of the wakeup from the Republican Party delusion marketing that sold invasion and military occupation of Iraq.) The focus there might be not right and left but right and wrong - after making two lists, who got the big things about the most important American governmental decision since WWI right and who got them wrong, you can review the lists and see what else the listees had in common.