I don't mind being watched.
Using such loaded terms as 'raping' sounds like paranoia.
That's not the discussion, the OP claimed powers of surveillance which are absurd. (note spelling)
What has Happened to Civil Liberties
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I don't mind being watched.
Using such loaded terms as 'raping' sounds like paranoia.
That's not the discussion, the OP claimed powers of surveillance which are absurd. (note spelling)
And those who do? They obviously don't matter right. I mean hell if you find it ok everyone should find it ok too.
Buzz word, flavor text whatever you want to call it. Your reaching if you think my use of the word "rape" means im paranoid....lol....cmon
Fair enough, simple spelling mistake.
I'll agree with some of the OP's claims of SURVEILLANCE are just as far reaching as your use of the word paranoia...BUT none the less if we are allowed google earth.....I can only imagine what the gov has.
Why does it seem some people just dont care if the government can go anywhere and do anything they want? I mean that is a frightening thought for me mainly because well....I dont conform...I will always be who I want to be and the second the government has the ability to tell me nope.....your going to "fall in line like the rest" or else...
I dont like it...
Orwell Rolls in His Grave
if this doublespeak shit aint allowed to stand in sci, why countenance it outside?
you are not helpless. keep your govt in line
sly said:
magic? alien tech?
excellent starting point
Fraggle Rocker
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Most of us do a more thoughtful job of risk management and cost-benefit analysis than that.
You could save the lives of about 20,000 Americans every year by lobbying to make a breathalyzer interlock standard equipment in every car. Do you bother doing that?
Terrorists have killed 3,000 Americans in this millennium. Drunk drivers have killed 160,000 of us. Think about your priorities.
I currently live in the Washington region, about 25 miles from the Pentagon. 9/11 was local news here but I've never met anyone who personally knows a family that lost someone on that day. The closest I can get is an officemate whose neighbor's daughter's teacher's boyfriend was killed in the Pentagon--five degrees of separation. On the other hand, three people I knew personally have been killed in drunk driving crashes--one degree of separation.
We all know drunk drivers personally. We could all probably wait for one outside his favorite bar, follow him as he drives home, and call the cops on our cellphone to have him busted. Does anybody bother? Yet we're willing to abandon our civil rights, turn our country into the world's biggest bully, piss off every one of the world's one billion Muslims, and spend trillions of dollars to track down terrorists, who are far more elusive and a far less dire threat to us.
Stupid Americans who choose to drink/drive are not the same as innocent Americans killed by POS demonic muslim terrorists. The POS have killed 4,000 more in Iraq and are killing daily all over the world. Do you think we should just leave them alone? Not me. I want them destroyed. Every last one of them.
what about gun violence? thousands of people die every year as a result of gun violence ...why are you not lobbying for stricter gun laws or ban on them alltogether?
mmm
seen deathproof?
kurt fucks with the bitches non stop. the first moment of respite, he gets capped in the shoulder. his ass is grass. i love guns. remember indiana? knife to a gunfight? the great equalizer?
god bless america
Fraggle Rocker
Staff member
Huh? You think drunk drivers only kill themselves? I have a couple of "innocent American" friends who would argue that point with you. If they weren't DEAD.
Do you ever stop and think about some of these preposterous things you write and how they can hurt people? Do you ever contemplate how utterly cruel and thoughtless you are sometimes?
going, going, gone.
I listed some projects the government has been using against people in my thread 'Big Brother is Watching You' http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=74925
Though reading your mind may be out of the realm of the possible for the MOMENT they can PREDICT what a person can do using projects like the Human network analysis and behavior model building engines, Event prediction and capability development model building engines and Biologically inspired algorithms for agent control.
They also can track you with ease using the Biometric signatures of humans project and Human Identification at a Distance (HumanID) project. Human ID uses satellites but it also uses everday cc video cameras and a face recognition software developed for the big casinos to identify the unwated pros.
There are also satellites that can disrupt a person's normal brain function causing hesteria and violence in those effected.
Life will be different says Fraggle Rocker, It all ready IS most of us just don't know it yet.
So one could look at all the projects that DARPA is WILLING to tell us about and can find some really good stuff on there site the things you read make some of the things listed on this site here
http://www.surveillanceissues.com/
not so hard to belive. Though I normaly stay away from this kinda stuff this one is very close to hitting the mark.
I listed some projects the government has been using against people in my thread 'Big Brother is Watching You' http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=74925
Though reading your mind may be out of the realm of the possible for the MOMENT they can PREDICT what a person can do using projects like the Human network analysis and behavior model building engines, Event prediction and capability development model building engines and Biologically inspired algorithms for agent control.
They also can track you with ease using the Biometric signatures of humans project and Human Identification at a Distance (HumanID) project. Human ID uses satellites but it also uses everday cc video cameras and a face recognition software developed for the big casinos to identify the unwated pros.
There are also satellites that can disrupt a person's normal brain function causing hesteria and violence in those effected.
Life will be different says Fraggle Rocker, It all ready IS most of us just don't know it yet.
So one could look at all the projects that DARPA is WILLING to tell us about and can find some really good stuff on there site the things you read make some of the things listed on this site here
http://www.surveillanceissues.com/
not so hard to belive. Though I normaly stay away from this kinda stuff this one is very close to hitting the mark.
I would ask, why, in a public place, where people can see what you are doing, is being seen by a camera any different.
Sounded like anger to me, due to frustration or a feeling of oppression. I would wonder why you felt oppressed.
Stating you are being watched by satellites inside your own home is paranoia. It just cannot be done. If the OP feels they are being watched, when they aren't, that is paranoia.
I never think of civil liberties that may be eroding or that the government has this fixation with me or what i do. well for one thing my freedom is pretty secure, at least as far as the government is concerned but really the only ones taking away the right of ordinary people are criminals. As a matter of fact the only tightening of laws that i have seen is due to criminal activity by someone else and not by any '1984' fantasy.
What i do see are people who for some reason refer to themselves as liberals defending criminal behavior because that is where all this starts. They want to let criminals out of jails, serve no sentence or just have have monitoring of molesters etc. then ask why is there monitoring etc. That is only an example but you find this across the board, at least in U.S that is how it is.
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"Stating you are being watched by satellites inside your own home is paranoia" paranoid, yes, however they can and do with a thermographic filter.
it's foolish to think that one can make bold statments with no factual data to give there words merit.
Military Space Imagery Intelligence KH12 EO-IR—Electro-optical/Infra-red. These satellites provide full-spectrum photographic imagery, including infra-red.
Digital enhancement provides the opportunity to further sharpen and define images produced by these satellites.
KH12 (Improved Crystal) Optical sensors and electronic cameras provide real-time transmission of images to ground stations via Milstar relay satellites.
These sensors operate in visible and near infrared light; they can also detect heat sources using thermal infrared visually they can see a meter square. That allows them to see heat from a human.
The US NAVY uses this tech to locate SEAL TEAMS for extraction. By using 3D imaging they can track a human, the can not see you as one would see you in person but the can follow your movments and have a good idea of your actions.
it costs MEGA bucks to do this so it is only used as needed. Though they do have the ability to track you it is not going to be used on the averag person.
The KH12 is what the tell us that they have. The military has in the past told the average joe only about tech that is out of date and far far from what the are currently using it's not a strech to belive the same in this case.
"Stating you are being watched by satellites inside your own home is paranoia" paranoid, yes, however they can and do with a thermographic filter.
it's foolish to think that one can make bold statments with no factual data to give there words merit.
Military Space Imagery Intelligence KH12 EO-IR—Electro-optical/Infra-red. These satellites provide full-spectrum photographic imagery, including infra-red.
Digital enhancement provides the opportunity to further sharpen and define images produced by these satellites.
KH12 (Improved Crystal) Optical sensors and electronic cameras provide real-time transmission of images to ground stations via Milstar relay satellites.
These sensors operate in visible and near infrared light; they can also detect heat sources using thermal infrared visually they can see a meter square. That allows them to see heat from a human.
The US NAVY uses this tech to locate SEAL TEAMS for extraction. By using 3D imaging they can track a human, the can not see you as one would see you in person but the can follow your movments and have a good idea of your actions.
it costs MEGA bucks to do this so it is only used as needed. Though they do have the ability to track you it is not going to be used on the averag person.
The KH12 is what the tell us that they have. The military has in the past told the average joe only about tech that is out of date and far far from what the are currently using it's not a strech to belive the same in this case.
Fraggle Rocker
Staff member
The United States was founded on the principle that the power of government must be zealously curtailed or it turns into despotism. Just look at the micromanaging nitpicky laws British citizens have to put up with--and they are no safer for it, just less free. This philosophy was the original form of "liberalism," the notion that aristocrats and bureaucrats should not be allowed to run the lives of the citizens. Somewhere along the way the leftists stole the name "liberal," so the "classic liberals" in a stunning feat of linguistic ineptitude renamed themselves "libertarians."
Our country stuck with that principle of classic liberalism until the FDR administration, when he began using the Constitution for toilet paper. Since then we've been struggling to take our country back from a government that is way too big for its britches and cleverly uses every "crisis" as an excuse to take away more of our liberties. They're tapping our phones, telling us what drugs we can take, and looking over our shoulders to see how we're raising our own children. They've got back rooms full of leering civil "servants" in airports monitoring fluoroscopes that see through our wives' clothing as they go through the security lines!
Fuck the nanny state. Adhere to the Constitution. It's the Law of the Land. There is no special "emergency Constitution" for when the Bush Dynasty's little private feud with Iraq stirs up terrorism. The answer to that is to get rid of the Bush Dynasty and let the Cro-Magnons in the Middle East settle their own affairs.
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