What Do You Do All Day in Heaven?

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I think before any religion convinces me to be a good boy and earn a ticket to Heaven, it would be good to know exactly what I’ll be doing for the rest of eternity once there. Golf would be nice. Parties and sex, good food too. Sitting around and praising deities not for me and something more exciting would be welcome.

If I got there, would I maintain the gender I had when alive? Hang around with friends and family? Would I be able to converse or even mingle with the first humans or do I stay locked in to my era on Earth? Will I meet aliens from other worlds? If I like pets, will I find other animals there? Or would anything Earthly be taboo so I can concentrate on more praising of deities?

I wouldn’t mind learning a few secrets, like how did the universe begin for one thing. But man, how long is an eternity?

Anybody know the percentage of religions that have praising gods as the number one activity in the heavenly afterlife?
 
I think before any religion convinces me to be a good boy and earn a ticket to Heaven, it would be good to know exactly what I’ll be doing for the rest of eternity once there. Golf would be nice. Parties and sex, good food too. Sitting around and praising deities not for me and something more exciting would be welcome.

If I got there, would I maintain the gender I had when alive? Hang around with friends and family? Would I be able to converse or even mingle with the first humans or do I stay locked in to my era on Earth? Will I meet aliens from other worlds? If I like pets, will I find other animals there? Or would anything Earthly be taboo so I can concentrate on more praising of deities?

I wouldn’t mind learning a few secrets, like how did the universe begin for one thing. But man, how long is an eternity?

Anybody know the percentage of religions that have praising gods as the number one activity in the heavenly afterlife?
There is no heaven. Christianity is the main one with a heaven I think. If you are trying to troll religious people, you probably want the religious subforum (but you'll get banned for trolling). So decide what you are really interested in discussing.
 
I think before any religion convinces me to be a good boy and earn a ticket to Heaven, it would be good to know exactly what I’ll be doing for the rest of eternity once there. Golf would be nice. Parties and sex, good food too. Sitting around and praising deities not for me and something more exciting would be welcome.

If I got there, would I maintain the gender I had when alive? Hang around with friends and family? Would I be able to converse or even mingle with the first humans or do I stay locked in to my era on Earth? Will I meet aliens from other worlds? If I like pets, will I find other animals there? Or would anything Earthly be taboo so I can concentrate on more praising of deities?

I wouldn’t mind learning a few secrets, like how did the universe begin for one thing. But man, how long is an eternity?

Anybody know the percentage of religions that have praising gods as the number one activity in the heavenly afterlife?
If you're an atheist why do you care?
 
If I got there, would I maintain the gender I had when alive?

Apparently it's a possibility. Humans supposedly become like angels, and the non-canon Book of Enoch divulged how reproductive-oriented angels could be circa Noah's time. As also briefly mentioned in Genesis 6:2 & 6:4:
  • "The sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. [...] The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown."
Is there gender in heaven?
https://biblehub.com/q/is_there_gender_in_heaven.htm

Hang around with friends and family? Would I be able to converse or even mingle with the first humans or do I stay locked in to my era on Earth? Will I meet aliens from other worlds? If I like pets, will I find other animals there? Or would anything Earthly be taboo so I can concentrate on more praising of deities?

I wouldn’t mind learning a few secrets, like how did the universe begin for one thing. But man, how long is an eternity? [...]

There will be a lot more social interaction (fellowship) in the new "park" than there was in the sparsely populated original Eden. And very much oodles of worshipping and serving. A deluge of learning. And partaking in unknown projects and agendas. (Acquiring roles as park rangers, maybe?)

Some major zees in there regarding all the repetitious genuflection and reverence rituals, but also great wonders surpassing Disneyland.
  • What will we be doing in heaven? (excerpts): The stereotypical image of people in heaven floating on clouds strumming harps the livelong day is a gross and cartoonish misrepresentation of reality. [...] In Luke 23:43, Jesus ... declared, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.” ... The point is that Jesus used the word for “a park.” In context, the reference has to be to “the paradise of God” or “the park of God” (see Revelation 2:7).

    [...] The Bible only provides glimpses of heaven. Whatever else we will be doing in God’s eternal “park,” we know it will be wonderful beyond our imagination. “No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined what God has prepared for those who love him” (1 Corinthians 2:9, NLT).

    [...] In Christ “are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge” (Colossians 2:3). ... How long will it take us to search out all the hidden treasures of wisdom? ... We can keep learning all through eternity and never plumb the depths of God’s glory. ... We will never stop learning about Him.

    [...] We will be part of “a great multitude that no one could count” (Revelation 7:9). We will be sharing eternity with believing friends, family, and heroes of old. There will be no secrets there and nothing to hide as we fellowship with “the spirits of the righteous made perfect” (Hebrews 12:23). No wonder heaven will be a place of never-ending learning. Just getting to know everyone will take forever!

    [...] We are commanded to worship God on earth, and we see worship taking place in heaven (Revelation 7:11). We are commanded to serve the Lord in this world, and we see people serving the Lord in the world to come ... (Revelation 22:3). So, those are two things we’ll be doing in heaven: worshiping and serving the Lord.
 
There is no heaven. Christianity is the main one with a heaven I think. If you are trying to troll religious people, you probably want the religious subforum (but you'll get banned for trolling). So decide what you are really interested in discussing.
Didn’t want to include every synonymous noun associated with heaven. I’ll give people credit for knowing the after death realms by their correct names. If you want to call it trolling then be my guest. Even though I rarely participate here these days I get constant emails from the forum baiting me to get involved….is forum trolling me?

Of course I’d like to see what religions or reasonable facsimiles of, have to offer. I understand they’re just beliefs with no actual proof. I’ve been part of religion but these days I see no reason to believe in a divine being. Maybe I should also be asking what I will do in Hell for an eternity instead? And finally, if people think a religion’s description or version of heaven is stupid but have one of their own then please share.
 
Didn’t want to include every synonymous noun associated with heaven. I’ll give people credit for knowing the after death realms by their correct names. If you want to call it trolling then be my guest. Even though I rarely participate here these days I get constant emails from the forum baiting me to get involved….is forum trolling me?

Of course I’d like to see what religions or reasonable facsimiles of, have to offer. I understand they’re just beliefs with no actual proof. I’ve been part of religion but these days I see no reason to believe in a divine being. Maybe I should also be asking what I will do in Hell for an eternity instead? And finally, if people think a religion’s description or version of heaven is stupid but have one of their own then please share.
I'm not a moderator so I have no idea whether the forum is trolling you or not. Your question isn't really about comparative religions it seems and it isn't in the religion forum, that's all.

I'd guess you could get every possible answer such as, being a spirit and not a body, or day or time having no meaning, etc.
 
Maybe "heaven" is light and from it's reference frame time stands still?
There is a (well, many) AI sloppish video unavoidably going round that has a "Feynman character" claiming that Light does not move .(I don't bother viewing them)

I can't find any genuine Feynman writing or recording that says this (all his Caltech lectures are available online in note form**) but I would be interested if he said anything along those lines.

My own view/bias would be ,maybe that since it is only observed at the emission and interception points then then space in-between is/may be be indeed empty(or filled with all paths?) -so that light does not "travel"as we would think of things traveling (and spacetime would be discontinuous -for light and for everything)

**https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/
 
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I'm not a moderator so I have no idea whether the forum is trolling you or not. Your question isn't really about comparative religions it seems and it isn't in the religion forum, that's all.

I'd guess you could get every possible answer such as, being a spirit and not a body, or day or time having no meaning, etc.
Isn’t comparative religion an objective study and analysis of the world’s religions to point out their similarities and differences. Anyways I’ll leave it at that and should moderators feel like moving this straight to religion or dumping it altogether then do it. I won’t feel slighted in the least.
 
My own view/bias would be ,maybe that since it is only observed at the emission and interception points then then space in-between is/may be be indeed empty(or filled with all paths?) -so that light does not "travel"as we would think of things traveling (and spacetime would be discontinuous -for light and for everything)
My guess is that if it was some YouTube boob, then they were riffing off
Feynman and Wheeler’s absorber theory of electrodynamics. It posits no interaction between emitter and absorber mediated by an independent EM field, so no traveling light. I forget the workaround but it involves some kind of advance wave from the absorber? There's some sort of field-free AAAD that happens. Weird stuff.
 
[...] And finally, if people think a religion’s description or version of heaven is stupid [...] if people think a religion’s description or version of heaven is stupid but have one of their own then please share.

Bible-quoting ministers and clerics are the ones most willing to output conclusions from the scarce data concerning what the idea of heaven is concretely like. And individuals creatively providing their own preferences is akin to The Good Place territory and would perhaps warrant moving the topic to the entertainment-oriented "Life" section for exhibiting personal concoctions about _X_.

Taking the subject more seriously (and as belonging in this category it was originally posted to) means delving into the interests and abstract explorations of theological scholars (example below). The "comparative" aspect of this subforum can still be accommodated by others adding non-Western conceptions of heaven or afterlife for contrast (indigenous, Islamic, East Asian, etc), as critically examined and augmented by academicians (initially).
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https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/heaven-hell/#HeaThrCriIss

The issue of freedom in heaven

EXCERPTS: [...] Consider now three different accounts of what it means to act freely that appear in the relevant philosophical literature on the topic of freedom in heaven. According to the first account, one is free with respect to the issue of remaining obedient to God only if it is within one’s power to remain obedient to God and also within one’s power to disobey God. [...] the saints in heaven do not have the same kind of freedom that Lucifer had unless they retain a very real power to sin in heaven.

A second account carries no implication that having the relevant freedom in the present always requires an ability to do otherwise in the present, though it does require an ability to do otherwise at various times in one’s life history. [...] James F. Sennett defends the free will of the saints in heaven by in effect arguing that they have [already] freely chosen their own moral character....

[...] A third account of freedom ... is Susan Wolf’s Reason View, according to which “the freedom necessary for responsibility consists in the ability (or freedom) to do the right thing for the right reasons”. But unlike the autonomy view, as she calls it, such freedom does not require the ability to refrain from doing the right thing for the right reasons. Wolf thus commits herself to the following asymmetry: whereas committing a wrong (or immoral) act freely requires an ability to do otherwise and therefore to refrain from acting wrongly, doing the right thing for the right reasons freely does not require an ability to act otherwise.

The issue of the misery of loved ones in Hell

EXCERPT: Assuming that love ties people’s interests together in the way described in section 4.1 above, one might then wonder how God could preserve the happiness of those in heaven who know that some of their own loved ones are suffering forever in hell. For the question inevitably arises, “How could anyone remain happy knowing that a genuine loved one, however corrupted, is destined to be miserable forever”?

The issue of the supposed tedium of immortality

EXCERPTS: [...] Williams’s view concerning the inevitably tedious nature of an unending life is not that far removed from the religious view that in our present unperfected condition we are not yet fit for eternity and not yet capable of experiencing the most worthwhile forms of happiness; indeed, given our present condition, some would claim, we might even turn heaven itself into a hellish experience. And if that be true, then the task of rendering someone fit for eternal joy may be far more complicated, even for an omnipotent being, than one might have imagined. ... Williams would question whether a suitably transformed person would be the same individual as the unperfected person that existed previously...
MORE (missing details): https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/heaven-hell/#HeaThrCriIss
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I think before any religion convinces me to be a good boy and earn a ticket to Heaven, it would be good to know exactly what I’ll be doing for the rest of eternity once there. Golf would be nice. Parties and sex, good food too. Sitting around and praising deities not for me and something more exciting would be welcome.

If I got there, would I maintain the gender I had when alive? Hang around with friends and family? Would I be able to converse or even mingle with the first humans or do I stay locked in to my era on Earth? Will I meet aliens from other worlds? If I like pets, will I find other animals there? Or would anything Earthly be taboo so I can concentrate on more praising of deities?

I wouldn’t mind learning a few secrets, like how did the universe begin for one thing. But man, how long is an eternity?

Anybody know the percentage of religions that have praising gods as the number one activity in the heavenly afterlife?
I'm an atheist, but that doesn't mean I don't think about what a heaven might be like.


Ask a dog whether it thinks it's living a fulfilling life. It understands food, friends, fireside sleeps and chasing bunnies. How do you think a dog might grasp the concept of a career? Of contributing to society? Of leaving a legacy? It can't. It simply does not have the capacity.

Or, if you're not into communicating with animals - a Cro-Magnon man.



Presumably, were we to go to heaven, we would be introduced to things we are incapable of grasping in our previous, mortal, Earthbound form. We would not merely step through a door into a new world and remain with our current sensibilities. Given the premises of a heaven that is paradisiacal and eternal, I conclude we cannot grasp it.
 
Anybody know the percentage of religions that have praising gods as the number one activity in the heavenly afterlife?

Caveat: I'm an atheist, so not an authority on this subject in any way. I am recalling my dim memories of RE classes in school.

I can't tell if you were being serious in your opening post. Golf, parties, sex, sitting around - obviously none of this is relevant as you won't exist in a corporeal sense in Heaven. You won't need or want anything associated with your current physical existence. The concept of Heaven is very simple: it is simply being in the presence of God. It's nothing more than that because that is all a non-corporeal soul will need or want for eternity. Conversely, Hell is a soul that is denied the presence of God. IIRC this is the Catholic belief re: Heaven/Hell. Since this is the Comparative Religion sub-fourm I should state that I have no idea how other Christian sects, or other religions, view the matter.
 
Virgins and wine are available in Islamic paradise, for the men.
Never quite grasped how, if men and women are born and die in fairly equal numbers, how there can be multiple virgins available to each man. Also complicating things is they do specify virgins - how many women are dying virgins? Wouldn't that be a prerequisite to being a virgin in paradise? Do they take the very small number of female virgin souls that show up and soul-clone them or something? Or is there some sort of Virginity Odometer on women which can be rolled back to zero, at death? Please don't laugh, these are serious doctrinal and metaphysical questions!
 
Virgins and wine are available in Islamic paradise, for the men.
Is it the ladies who do the sitting around?
Never quite grasped how, if men and women are born and die in fairly equal numbers, how there can be multiple virgins available to each man
It is only the virtuous -and Islamic (martyrs?) who dine in the buffet car.

Lady virgins are obviously women of their word.If they say they are virgins and are appropriately sized that will do(they may have daughters also)
 
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