Were We Told the Truth about World War 2?

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FatFreddy said:
Please respond to post #68.
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As usual, the fanatical, paranoid views of the conspiracy nutters, and the alternative and non-mainstream pushers, will always grab some ounce of truth, inflate it into an outright lie, add more fantasies, and then cry conspiracy.
I said it the other day, in the main people who believe such as you, need to be locked up for their own good.
Your kind have no other outlet for your lies/conspiracies/innuendos and warped take on history, other than to infest otherwise interesting forums.
 
What is to respond to? Your post number 68 is completely false. In fact it is nonsensical.
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Did you listen to these speeches of Hitler's?
http://www.liveleak.com/browse?q=Adolf+Hitler:+Explains+His+Reasons+For+Invading+The+Soviet+Union
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Adolf+Hitler:+Explains+Reasons+For+Invading+Poland&sm=12

Do you think they were faked?

Americans were not taught the things you claim they were taught. I am an American, I was never taught anything derogatory about the German people. I wasn’t taught what the German people were thinking.
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I'm an American and I was taught that the Germans supported the idea of taking over Europe to expand their territory. The above videos show that to be a lie that the American government told the American people.

My wife’s parents lived in Berlin during the war.
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Did they tell you about this?
http://www.talmudterror.com/otherlosses.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhl0Jw5JW0c
 
FatFreddy said:
Did you listen to these speeches of Hitler's?
http://www.liveleak.com/browse?q=Adolf+Hitler:+Explains+His+Reasons+For+Invading+The+Soviet+Union
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Adolf+Hitler:+Explains+Reasons+For+Invading+Poland&sm=12

Do you think they were faked?



I'm an American and I was taught that the Germans supported the idea of taking over Europe to expand their territory. The above videos show that to be a lie that the American government told the American people.



Did they tell you about this?
http://www.talmudterror.com/otherlosses.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhl0Jw5JW0c
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You are not being honest with yourself.

FatFreddy said:
Americans are taught that Hitler told the German people that they should take over Europe to expand their territory and that the German people said, "Good idea. Let's do it".
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- Your post #68

Americans are taught that Hitler was a tyrant. Nobody asked the German people anything. Hitler never won a vote. Hitler was appointed Chancellor of Germany. He wasn't elected by the German people.
 
Only when YOU respond to post 71.
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Good grief. You know I'm not in a postion to be able to verify something like that. All I know is that there is stuff on the internet that says he was a Jewish puppet.

http://hofflandia.wordpress.com/sov...d-barrel-by-jews-–-as-jews-from-1917-to-1990/
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During this Communist Dictatorship on the Russian People the JEW “ROBBER BARONS” with their “JEW PUPPET” Stalin Murdered more than 62 MILLION GENTILE CHRISTIANS IN RUSSIA.
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Stuff people write and post on the internet so it's mere second-hand information that may or may not be true. When we have two of Hitler's speeches which were censored in the US that contradict what Americans are taught, it's something that shows us that something's amiss. Tell us why you think those two speeches aren't played for history students in American high schools.
http://www.liveleak.com/browse?q=Adolf+Hitler:+Explains+His+Reasons+For+Invading+The+Soviet+Union
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Adolf+Hitler:+Explains+Reasons+For+Invading+Poland&sm=12
 
FatFreddy said:
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During this Communist Dictatorship on the Russian People the JEW “ROBBER BARONS” with their “JEW PUPPET” Stalin Murdered more than 62 MILLION GENTILE CHRISTIANS IN RUSSIA.
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Do we really have to allow this crap, even in the psycho section of the forum.

Like all crap shouldn't this go to the cesspool.
 
FatFreddy:

I don't have time to watch your videos, so can you summarise for me?

What do you think Hitler's aim was in invading Poland, France etc., if not to conquer Europe and expand German sovereignty?

And do you dispute Hitler's antisemitism and plan for the holocaust?
 
Somebody answer what I asked in post #86. Why don't history students get to hear these two speeches of Hitler's.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Adolf+Hitler:+Explains+Reasons+For+Invading+Poland&sm=12
http://www.liveleak.com/browse?q=Adolf+Hitler:+Explains+His+Reasons+For+Invading+The+Soviet+Union

It's history, isn't it?
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This video is an excerpt from "Adolf Hitler: The Greatest Story Never Told" (second video).
"This is the Reason Hitler attcked Poland & This Genuine Reason is always Hidden by Anti-Hitler Media"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4xF5TekPvQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhGfCTA_6wA

I wasn't there. I don't see how it can be proven either way. We'd have to go to Poland and Germany and find some really old people to ask. I don't think there are many left who saw what was happening first hand.
 
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FatFreddy said:
Good grief. You know I'm not in a postion to be able to verify something like that. All I know is that there is stuff on the internet that says he was a Jewish puppet.
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Your evasion of this simple and obvious question is noted. Anyone who cares to can very easily find abundant history sources saying Stalin was a Georgian, who was educated at an Orthodox seminary. Of course he was not Jewish.

It's true there were a lot of Jews among the Menshevik revolutionaries (who got bumped off or imprisoned by the Bolsheviks) and that Trotsky (whom Stalin had assassinated) was Jewish.

A bit of a stretch to argue that Stalin, arguably the most monstrous tyrant in history, was a "puppet" of anybody, I'd have thought, least of all Jews, who had nothing to gain and a huge amount to lose from tyrannies like his.
 
Imo germany had more smart scientists per capita during the wars. That's why when ww2 was over usa an russia forgave them an used them an learned from them.. Some german war criminals deemed very useful were forgiven as well.
 
FatFreddy said:
I'm an American and I was taught that the Germans supported the idea of taking over Europe to expand their territory.
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hitler DID NOT have the support of the masses for his invasions.
this is one of the reasons concentration camps were needed.
 
FatFreddy said:
I'm an American and I was taught that the Germans supported the idea of taking over Europe to expand their territory. The above videos show that to be a lie that the American government told the American people.
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Well I'm not American so I don't know what Amercians were told. But we British were well aware of the Nazi doctrine of Lebensraum, details here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum

Nobody will ever know the degree to which the whole German population subscribed to this doctrine, as they were never asked to vote on it, and any of them who might have expressed open dissent would probably have been picked up the secret police and beaten up or worse.
 
This is the third time I'm asking this question.

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Somebody answer what I asked in post #86. Why don't history students get to hear these two speeches of Hitler's.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Adolf+Hitler:+Explains+Reasons+For+Invading+Poland&sm=12
http://www.liveleak.com/browse?q=Adolf+Hitler:+Explains+His+Reasons+For+Invading+The+Soviet+Union

It's history, isn't it?
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Objective truth-seekers don't avoid questions and hope the asker will forget about it. If they see that they've been wrong all their lives, they modify their opinions.

This is a very legitimate question so I'd like to hear the views of the pro-official version posters on this.
 
FatFreddy said:
This is the third time I'm asking this question.

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Objective truth-seekers don't avoid questions and hope the asker will forget about it. If they see that they've been wrong all their lives, they modify their opinions.

This is a very legitimate question so I'd like to hear the views of the pro-official version posters on this.
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the first link is a list of search results, not a single video.
the second will not play but the wording suggests that germany did what it did because soviet russia wanted germany to do it.
a direct confession wouldn't you say?
 
the first link is a list of search results, not a single video.
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Okay. Here's the first video.
"Adolf Hitler: Explains Reasons For Invading Poland."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIsQBgvcaeA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXnTaJOokDg


the second will not play
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It plays when I click on it.

"Hitler Explains His Reasons for Invading the Soviet Union"
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0a0_1301486247


Now, will you pro-official version posters please answer my question? Why don't American history students hear those speeches in history class? It's real history, isn't it?
 
what's your point fatfreddy?
nazi germany never invaded all those countries?
nazi germany didn't have concentration camps?
nazi germany didn't murder people in those camps?

for you to play nazi germany off like it was innocent is despicable.

werner von braun even said the slave labor he had made it almost impossible to keep the german V2 program on track.
the medical field will certainly attest to german atrocities.
the international red cross will attest to the victims of concentration camps.
nazi germany did it fatfreddy, live with it.
nazi germany will get exactly ZERO sympathy from me.
 
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