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Were We Told the Truth about World War 2?
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Is there a video of him actually saying that? Also, that statement doesn't make the evidence in those videos go away. If it turns out that he really said that, he may have been coerced. He had family. I would lie if someone told me that my granddaughter would have an "Accident" if I didn't play ball.
Have you watched any of these YouTube videos?
Former Religious Jew On Holocaust Myths
Auschwitz - Why The Gas Chambers Are A Myth
ONE THIRD of the HOLOCAUST
BUCHENWALD A Dumb Dumb Portrayal Of Evil 1/32
"Judea Declares War on Germany"
The Complete David Cole and Mark Weber on the Montel Williams Show
They make a good case.
Do you mean by this that he claimed to have been responsible for the deaths of five million Jews.
If so, what is your original source?
Do you mean that a further one million Jews were killed through other agencies?
Man oh man, are you one sick fella!
According to you, the whole world is one big conspiracy!
Why would the USSR at the end of the second world war, support anything the West would propose???
Why would they all fake or tell lies about the Holocaust???
The evidence is even there today, yet you chose to believe some obscure Idiot, that decides to put up some obscure u tube video, supporting some silly conspiracy. You must be very insecure to say the least.
If the Moon Landings were faked, why would that have not been revealed by the USA's number one enemy at that time, and the ones that were trying their hardest to get there before them.
How would/could they keep quite the thousands of people who needed to be associated with such an effort.
If 9/11 was an inside job, what happened to the passengers on all the planes?????
You have seriously got to be joking, that in the 21st Century any government could or would attempt such an exersise on home soil against its own people.
Sick, sick, sick!!!!! You truly have to be some impressionable, sick person to believe any or all of the above would be possible.
In retrospect, I reckon TV and shows such as the X-Files, and Millenium have a lot to answer for.
Some people are just plainly incapable of distinguishing fact from fiction.
Video is not the ultimate evidence.
By all means, tell us what evidence is so compelling to you and we'll see whether it goes away or not.
You would have to produce evidence that he was coerced, not just empty speculation.
It's a well-known quote. I'm sure you can Google the source.
HE meant, as far as I know, that he could only take personal credit for five million. He wasn't attempting to give a total count.
This is a classic example of handwaving.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handwaving
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Handwaving is a pejorative label applied to the action of displaying the appearance of doing something, when actually doing little, or nothing. For example, it is applied to debate techniques that involve fallacies
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Here's some info on the issue of the Soviets.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=moonfaker+cold+war&aq=f
http://www.nardwuar.com/vs/bill_kaysing/index.html
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Well, why did they keep faking the Apollo flights, I still don't understand. Did the Soviet Union know it was faked? Why did they keep shut up if they knew it was faked? 'Cause a lot of people would think they kept the moon race going to prove the U.S. was better than the Soviet Union. If the Soviet Union knew, why did they let the U.S. get away with this?
Well, I'll tell you - at the highest levels there is a coalition between governments. In other words, the Soviets said, if you won't tell on us - and they faked most of their space exploration flights - we won't tell on you. It's as simple as that. See, what Apollo is, is the beginning of the end of the ability of the government to hoodwink and bamboozle and manipulate the people. More and more people are becoming aware in the U.S. that the government is totally and completely public enemy number one.
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http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm
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The Soviets, with their own competing moon program and an intense economic and political and military rivalry with the USA, could be expected to have cried foul if the USA tried to fake a Moon landing. Theorist Ralph Rene responds that shortly after the alleged Moon landings, the USA silently started shipping hundreds of thousands of tons of grain as humanitarian aid to the allegedly starving USSR. He views this as evidence of a cover-up, the grain being the price of silence. (The Soviet Union in fact had its own Moon program).
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http://books.zcommunications.org/chomsky/sam/sam-3-1.html
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On the domestic front, the Cold War helped the Soviet Union entrench its military-bureaucratic ruling class in power, and it gave the US a way to compel its population to subsidise high-tech industry. It isn't easy to sell all that to the domestic populations. The technique used was the old stand-by-fear of a great enemy.
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Here's some info on why we don't read that people have spoken out against the hoax.
http://theconspiracyzone.podcastpeople.com/posts/28159
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Q: Why do prominent astronomers like Sir Bernard Lovell and Patrick Moore support the Moon landings if they were faked?
A: Scientists and astronomers around the globe know full well that the Moon missions were faked, but rely on NASA to gain access to the vital data beamed back to Earth from the Hubble space telescope. They cannot slag off NASA otherwise NASA would deprive them of this essential information, which they so much require.
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Q: What about the vast number of people involved in Apollo, wouldn’t someone have spoken out.
A: Pan’s claim there were half a million people involved in the Apollo program, but that includes all the humble engineers working on machine parts in many companies around the globe. So if someone is making a part in some engineering factory in Seattle, and his boss tells him it’s for the Apollo spacecraft, is that engineer proof the landings took place? No of course it is not proof, and even if that engineer knew they never made it to the Moon, he would still brag to his friends that he made a part that went to the Moon just to make him feel proud in some way or other. Parts for the Apollo program were made at many different factories around the globe. For example the laser reflector supposedly left on the Moon was manufactured in France. NASA collected the unit from the French company, and that was the last they saw of it. It’s probably stashed away in some archive at Langley, but one things for certain it’s not on the Moon. Are those French engineers proof they landed on the Moon? No of course not, as very few, (probably less than 200 people), were actually involved in bringing the whole lot together, so as to minimize what was actually taking place. No need for any of them to speak out because (A) They are 100% patriotic to the USA, and would say nothing that would go against America, even if it were true. (B) They do not need millions of dollars to safeguard their future, as they have already received substantial amounts from NASA just to “keep mum”. Read comments from people who worked on the Apollo program in the APOLLO FEEDBACK section.
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Here's a scientist explaining that science journals don't accept anything that goes against the official version of something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bAE7FGdNmA
(00:16 time mark)
If a whistle-blower were to try to tell the press, the press wouldn't print what he said.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/media_watch.html
http://www.youtube.com//watch?v=bbnxsPgcsH0
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=chomsky+media&aq=f
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=Wi5h3vZl6uo
It can be dangerous to go against the government.
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfYBJFPuiwE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipKyUVuQ2Uk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvay28lZiHU
A plausible scenario is put forward at the 44:00 time mark of this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5wkyEDIxTk
The facts show that the government did it. Facts trump opinion.
I've already posted some of the proof but here's some more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5IgqJXyLbg
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=architects+and+engineers+for+911+truth&sm=1
I regard that as an ignorant and insolent answer.
To believe as you do, is the height of delusional crackpottery.
I have never been to Alaska or Greenland or the Arctic. I really do not believe they exist...World governments have conspired to get us to accept they exist for reasons only known unto themselves......
I also do not believe you exist. I refuse to believe that someone as stupid, insecure and inpressionable could ever be real.
I have never been to Alaska or Greenland or the Arctic. I really do not believe they exist...World governments have conspired to get us to accept they exist for reasons only known unto themselves......
I also do not believe you exist. I refuse to believe that someone as stupid, insecure and inpressionable could ever be real.
And u tube videos trump them all!!!!! 
Fat Freddy,
I see you believe in the Moon Landing Conspiracy, the 9/11 conspiracy, and that the holocaust never happened (which I guess is supposed to be the Great Jewish Conspiracy or something).
What about JFK? Do you have the full set of conspiracies?
A wise man once said that it's great to keep an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out.
You need to stop reading the conspiracy websites exclusively, and start reading some of the material that rebuts the silly conspiracy stuff. The moon landings happened. 9/11 was a bunch of fanatical Islamists flying planes into buildings. The holocaust is well documented (and besides, you can't easily hide more than 6 million people). And Oswald killed JFK - alone.
I see you believe in the Moon Landing Conspiracy, the 9/11 conspiracy, and that the holocaust never happened (which I guess is supposed to be the Great Jewish Conspiracy or something).
What about JFK? Do you have the full set of conspiracies?
A wise man once said that it's great to keep an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out.
You need to stop reading the conspiracy websites exclusively, and start reading some of the material that rebuts the silly conspiracy stuff. The moon landings happened. 9/11 was a bunch of fanatical Islamists flying planes into buildings. The holocaust is well documented (and besides, you can't easily hide more than 6 million people). And Oswald killed JFK - alone.
What we're dealing with in this thread is somebody who swallows YouTube videos hook, line and sinker without bothering to check the facts. I'm simply asking you to verify my claims for yourself instead of taking my word for it, the same as I'm asking the OP to verify the claims on YouTube.
Don't you see the oddity of your position?
I think most people grasp the idea that if YOU make a statement, YOU try to justify/verify it.
I don't believe Eichmann ever claimed to be responsible for the deaths of five million Jews.
Show me I am wrong!
Probably true, but overwhelmingly unlikely in any of the four examples mentioned so far here.
How could a guy's brains be spread over the boot of his car after being shot from behind??? I don't really know, but it seems akin to the Moon landings being faked because the flag was seem fluttering.....in other words there could be many reasons.
It's also quite unlikely that any conspiracy undertaken by any government will remain hidden forever, and in time the truth will eventually be realised and accepted if it has any hard substance...That's the very nature of our media, [sensationalism, supposed revelations etc ] and once it is revealed and supported by real evidence, the conspiracy is no more.
And of course some see a need to always believe the more unlikely scenario....Area 51 and its associated rumours comes to mind.
Welcome to conspiracy world. Check your sanity at the gate....you won't be needing it. I've had a little experience with FF on other forums. It's pointless to discuss matters with him. He's so far down the rabbit hole, the longest rope couldn't reach him.
It's far more constructive just to post a random picture of Iggy Pop:
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