War on Iran

Common Thread

It was, what, all of last week↑ when Right Wing Watch↱ pointed out, "Just a reminder that electing a president surrounded by people clamoring for the End Times might have been a bad idea."

Today, social media joker Liam Nissan↱ observed, "We should probably stop putting people who are preparing for the rapture in charge of anything."

A few hours earlier, social media commentator John Collins↱ made the same point in response to news of servicemember complaints about war as part of God's divine plan: "Maybe it’s a bad idea to put people in charge of government who are eager for the rapture."

And in between, journalist and compulsive bear-poker Jeet Heer↱ wondered as if to poke a bear: "Where are my new atheist and skeptic buddies at -- Bill Maher, Sam Harris, Dawkins. I'm sure they very vocal about how this is dangerous."

Some U.S. military leaders are telling troops that the Iran war is part of "God's divine plan" featuring President Trump and Jesus, according to a religious freedom advocacy group. In response to Newsweek's request for comment on the matter, the Pentagon boasted Trump's action in Iran.

Mikey Weinstein, founder and president of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, said the nonprofit group has received more than 200 complaints from roughly 50 military installations since Saturday involving reports of U.S. commanders linking Christianity to the "biblically sanctioned" war in Iran.

"This morning our commander opened up the combat readiness status briefing by urging us to not be 'afraid' as to what is happening with our combat operations in Iran right now," one complaint reads. "He urged us to tell our troops that this was 'all part of God’s divine plan' and he specifically referenced numerous citations out of the Book of Revelation referring to Armageddon and the imminent return of Jesus Christ. He said that 'President Trump has been anointed by Jesus to light the signal fire in Iran to cause Armageddon and mark his return to Earth.'"

Weinstein, a former Air Force officer, said the complaints represent the "unrestricted euphoria" of some U.S. military commanders who believe the ongoing conflict in Iran represents Christian fundamentalism as described in the New Testament Book of Revelation.

"This is a national security threat — not just to our country, but to the world," Weinstein told Newsweek during a brief interview on Tuesday. "No one should be surprised that commanders are doing this, but when you tell someone they lack courage, character, bravery, honesty and intrepidity because of their chosen religious faith — or lack thereof — there's no difference between saying that and telling someone they're stupid because of the color of their skin or because they were born female."

Heer's provocation actually runs deeper than, say, Bill Maher, but that discussion depends on recognizing the antiliberal malaise associated with the rise of rightist extremism. We've known these people were coming¹, but for whatever reason folded their argument into a range of sacred speech that needed especial protection against political correctness, shaming, silencing, and on through cancel culture. See, these people apparently never intended to legitimize what they were protecting, it's just that they needed to object to the objection or else injustice would prevail.

It's one thing, perhaps, if religionists run afoul of science, but the same basic switch that wasn't good enough for, say, intelligent design, did well enough for other godless reformulations of religious expectation.

Meanwhile, calling out the New Atheists remains an exercise in futility. The metadiscussion, though, such as the relationship of certain attitudes to the advancement of extremism, will eventually become necessary in the course of understanding this history.
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Notes:

¹ If we consider our own community, we've known since at least 2007↗. It's also true that Americans can count fifteen years before that, at least; depending on the telling, we can also look back to 1974↗, in the aftermath of Roe v. Wade.​

Rhett Miller, Joshua. "US commander said Trump ‘anointed by Jesus’ to attack Iran: Report". Newsweek. 3 March 2026. Newsweek.com. 3 March 2026. https://www.newsweek.com/us-commander-said-trump-anointed-by-jesus-to-attack-iran-report-11615046

 
I am so glad to have learned of this ancient method, though I feel you were rather irresponsible in posting something which led to me trying to pronounce Welsh correctly for 20 minutes and then needing medical attention. Now I can't even pronounce "rural."

Yes, Llap Goch is what this is. Though Turnip is such an amateur, because the masters understand that killing your enemies, if done sloppily, only increases their numbers.
More on Llap Gogh here, apparently written in a style to get through to TFG. He must have read it.

By the way, there is also the little-known Lancastrian martial art of Ecky Thump:
 
So you admit than you idea of sanity is based on conformance to your ideals and not based on rationality. I would pray you aren't in a position to make decisions of import.
No I admit that my ideas on sanity, are conformance with empathy, consideration, logic, and the International human rights standards and principles which have served us since WW2. eg: The Iranian regime is a fanatical cruel unjust, racist and sexist body and needs to be destroyed. By the same token, Trump has totally disregarded world order and trade, and bullied small and middle nations to do his bidding and promoting might over right. Not sure how you can scramble that up. Fairly straight forward.
 
Apparently there have been something like 200 complaints from US military personnel, across c.50 locations, about commanders framing the US strikes on Iran as God's plan, part of a biblical prophecy, that it was intended to bring about Armageddon. The troops were told that this was "all part of God's divine plan", with one claiming that Trump was "annointed by Jesus to light the signal fire in Iran..."

So, that's one religious fundamentalist regime... trying to take out another??

As a slogan probably said: "You don't have to be a white heterosexual Christian male to live in the USA, but it helps."

And having people in the administration actively seeking the Rapture is probably not a good thing!
 
I am so glad to have learned of this ancient method, though I feel you were rather irresponsible in posting something which led to me trying to pronounce Welsh correctly for 20 minutes and then needing medical attention. Now I can't even pronounce "rural."

Yes, Llap Goch is what this is. Though Turnip is such an amateur, because the masters understand that killing your enemies, if done sloppily, only increases their numbers.
More on Ecky Thump here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kung_Fu_Kapers

It was a parody of David Carradine's famous "glasshopper" Kung Fu TV series, which was being shown on British TV at the time.

Unlike Llap Goch, which involved leaping over dry stone walls to mug unsuspecting old ladies waiting at the bus stop, Ecky Thump revolves around martial use of black puddings (which should be pronounced black pudding-G, in proper Northern fashion).

It is famous in Britain for having caused the death of a viewer, who actually died of a heart attack brought on by uncontrollable laughter.
 
Apparently there have been something like 200 complaints from US military personnel, across c.50 locations, about commanders framing the US strikes on Iran as God's plan, part of a biblical prophecy, that it was intended to bring about Armageddon. The troops were told that this was "all part of God's divine plan", with one claiming that Trump was "annointed by Jesus to light the signal fire in Iran..."

So, that's one religious fundamentalist regime... trying to take out another??

As a slogan probably said: "You don't have to be a white heterosexual Christian male to live in the USA, but it helps."

And having people in the administration actively seeking the Rapture is probably not a good thing!
I don't think you even believe what you have just posted and yet, I'm sure there is some gain of truth like someone reporting to a military religious council that some commander used some language that offended them.

There is no evidence for what you have posted and it would be against the military's own rules of conduct.
 
I don't think you even believe what you have just posted and yet, I'm sure there is some gain of truth like someone reporting to a military religious council that some commander used some language that offended them.

There is no evidence for what you have posted and it would be against the military's own rules of conduct.
200 complaints would be evidence, surely?
 
200 complaints would be evidence, surely?
I already address that but you have a narrative and that's all that you are going to push. Do you believe the overall theme of that story? Is that why we are in Iran, in your opinion. In your case, the answer is probably "yes" but I don't think Sarkus is that biased but maybe he is. That's why I asked.
 
I already address that but you have a narrative and that's all that you are going to push. Do you believe the overall theme of that story? Is that why we are in Iran, in your opinion. In your case, the answer is probably "yes" but I don't think Sarkus is that biased but maybe he is. That's why I asked.
What "overall theme"or "narrative" would that be?
 
I don't think you even believe what you have just posted and yet, I'm sure there is some gain of truth like someone reporting to a military religious council that some commander used some language that offended them.
Which parts do you not think I believe?
Do I believe that there have been 200+ complaints received by the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, from about 50 locations, about such inappropriately overt Christian language being used? Yep, I believe it - there's no reason not to, is there? It's being widely reported, with the MRFF themselves providing the numbers etc.
Do I believe that the current administration is a religious fundamentalist regime? No, that much is exaggeration for humorous effect, but they're doing a reasonable imitation nonetheless.
Do I believe they're trying to take out a religious fundamentalist regime? Yes. At least they seem to flip-flop about whether the war with Iran is about regime change or not.
Do I believe that it is probably not a good thing to have people in the administration who actively seek the Rapture? Yes, I believe that. Don't you?

Was there another part you were wondering about?
There is no evidence for what you have posted and it would be against the military's own rules of conduct.
What evidence would you like to see??? Links to the news reports? How about to the MRFF's own website: https://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/

What else would you like to see?
 
Here come the Franks!


France sends aircraft carrier to Mediterranean as Middle East flares up

PARIS — France will send the Charles de Gaulle aircraft carrier and its strike group to the Mediterranean as war expands in the Middle East, President Emmanuel Macron said in a speech on Tuesday night.

With the Strait of Hormuz closed and the Suez Canal and Red Sea threatened, France is also working on a coalition to pool assets, including military, that will allow shipping traffic to resume, Macron said in the televised speech.

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The nuclear-powered Charles de Gaulle and its escorts are being rerouted from the Baltic and the Northern Atlantic, where the carrier group had been set to participate in multiple NATO missions. The air group embarked on France’s only carrier typically consists of Rafale jets and E-2C Hawkeye airborne early warning aircraft, as well as several helicopters.
 
What's the betting that the cheese-eating surrender-monkeys become the first country to surrender in a war they're not actually involved in! ;)
(joking!!)
Better get those Fuckup Fries ready, like last time.

The trouble is that it is quite likely Trump and Netanyahu can raze all the military installations to the ground and assassinate everyone in a position of leadership in the country, and then leave, saying the job is done. The trouble will arise in the months and years to follow, in a broken and impoverished nation of 90 million people. Smashing everything up and killing thousands of people is the easy bit. The price of that will be paid by all the surrounding countries in the region, possibly for decades. It could be just the sort of lawless environment in which new terrorist groups, motivated by zealotry and with nothing to lose, arise.

It is sowing dragons' teeth.
 
There was a meeting he held at the WH with the German chancellor, after which Trump took questions, one of which was about who will take over...

“I guess the worst case would be we do this, and then somebody takes over who’s as bad as the previous person. That could happen. We don’t want that to happen. That would probably be the worst: You go through this, and then in five years you realize you put somebody in that was no better. So we’d like to see somebody in there that’s going to bring it back for the people.”

And on who that person might be...

“Most of the people we had in mind are dead. And now we have another group. They may be dead also, based on reports. So I guess you have a third wave coming in. Pretty soon we’re not going to know anybody.”


So, frankly, they don't have a ****ing clue.
 
There was a meeting he held at the WH with the German chancellor, after which Trump took questions, one of which was about who will take over...

“I guess the worst case would be we do this, and then somebody takes over who’s as bad as the previous person. That could happen. We don’t want that to happen. That would probably be the worst: You go through this, and then in five years you realize you put somebody in that was no better. So we’d like to see somebody in there that’s going to bring it back for the people.”

And on who that person might be...

“Most of the people we had in mind are dead. And now we have another group. They may be dead also, based on reports. So I guess you have a third wave coming in. Pretty soon we’re not going to know anybody.”


So, frankly, they don't have a ****ing clue.
Quite no plan, no strategy and they don't care what happens after they have wrecked it.

The American news networks will move on with the public's short attention span and nobody will spare a thought for 90 million wretched people, until, in a few years's time, some new terrorist group or militaristic ruler comes to prominence. As with Iraq, the full suite of problems created will take several years to emerge.
 
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If this crap keeps up, I see a suitcase nuke in midtown Manhattan's future. Or some other place where hardly anyone voted for these trepanned shit-toads that are pretending to be a federal government. Definitely the US is not winning hearts and minds.
 
No I admit that my ideas on sanity, are conformance with empathy, consideration, logic, and the International human rights standards and principles which have served us since WW2. eg: The Iranian regime is a fanatical cruel unjust, racist and sexist body and needs to be destroyed. By the same token, Trump has totally disregarded world order and trade, and bullied small and middle nations to do his bidding and promoting might over right. Not sure how you can scramble that up. Fairly straight forward.
thats all lot of words for you to basically say that i wrong and then admit I was right. but I get it for you to admit I'm right would require to critically examine a view point rooted in bigotry and worse and narcissism at best.


 
Which parts do you not think I believe?
Do I believe that there have been 200+ complaints received by the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, from about 50 locations, about such inappropriately overt Christian language being used? Yep, I believe it - there's no reason not to, is there? It's being widely reported, with the MRFF themselves providing the numbers etc.
Do I believe that the current administration is a religious fundamentalist regime? No, that much is exaggeration for humorous effect, but they're doing a reasonable imitation nonetheless.
Do I believe they're trying to take out a religious fundamentalist regime? Yes. At least they seem to flip-flop about whether the war with Iran is about regime change or not.
Do I believe that it is probably not a good thing to have people in the administration who actively seek the Rapture? Yes, I believe that. Don't you?

Was there another part you were wondering about?

What evidence would you like to see??? Links to the news reports? How about to the MRFF's own website: https://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/

What else would you like to see?
Yes, I agree when stated that way. Originally you didn't state it that way. I don't know that there are a lot "rapture" believers in the admin or that they have anything to do with Trump and Iran.
 
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