Video of a ghost on a rollercoaster

[Magical Realist]

Accidental cellphone video capture of an apparition riding in a rollercoaster. Totally credible account and compelling evidence once again for the existence of ghosts.

I actually watch the TV program "Paranormal Caught On Tape" all the time and while some videos are obvious mistakes like mylar balloons and other things there are many others that appear real and unmistakeable, especially the poltergeist activity. It suggests to me that in this age of the ubiquitous video camera the paranormal is more and more getting noticed and recorded, finally proving once and for all what we have always heard about it.

 

[DaveC426913]

Accidental cellphone video capture of an apparition riding in a rollercoaster. Totally credible account and compelling evidence once again for the existence of ghosts.

Fake: ghost bunker with an agenda and a video editing suite.

That's all that's necessary to spin the incident in a way that benefits me - just make up my own ideas about what the reporter's motives and abilities are, right? Straight out of the Magical Realist playbook.

To-wit:

...a self-touting USGS debunker.

 

[Magical Realist]

Here's the full unedited video sent in to a Youtube channel. Clearly no trickery is involved in the editing at all.

 

[DaveC426913]

Here's the full unedited video sent in to a Youtube channel. Clearly no trickery is involved in the editing at all.

It is quite clearly extensively edited and luridly embellished. So that's a lie.


How would you know there's no trickery involved?

Certainly well within capabilities of any self-touting ghost-believer with an agenda and some software. Right, Magical Realist?

 

[Magical Realist]

It is quite clearly extensively edited and lavishly embellished. How would you know if there's trickery involved?View attachment 6006

So how do you know it is edited? What gave it away that was edited? It's all one shot on a cellphone.

 

[DaveC426913]

So how do you know it is edited? What gave it away that was edited?

I don't have to know anything. I simply take a page out of the Magical Realist playbook. I just assign an agenda to the person I don't like and then assert it as if it's true. I can throw away the entire incident because of my attempt to declare the reporter is dishonest, based on nothing but my personal wishful thinking. If anyone challenges it I just ignore it and wait a day or two until the next shiny thing pops up. Right Magical Realist?

So, this has been debunked by certified MR procedures. Next.

 

[Magical Realist]

I don't have to know anything.

That's what thought. Just making shit up as usual. Next poster...

 

[DaveC426913]

That's what thought. Just making shit up as usual. Next poster...

Exactly. I know you're smart enough to grasp irony. That this proves a point about your dishonesty.

This 'agenda' assignation is a tactic you have employed many, many times. This being only the most recent.

And here you admit you've been just (I quote) "making shit up", without a hint of shame. One more sign of your trolling, on-the-record.



So: assigning un-evidenced motives to incident reporters and judging the veracity of the account on that. Valid or not valid? Can't have it both ways.

 

[Magical Realist]

Always making it personal with me like the drama queen you are. So you have no genuine thoughts on this piece of extraordinary footage?

 

[DaveC426913]

Always making it personal with me like the drama queen you are

You could stop being dishonest. Yeah, I take umbrage with dishonesty. I get to do that.

So you have no genuine thoughts on this piece of extraordinary footage?

I do. I expressed them. The videos are heavily edited and embellished. This obfuscates any attempt to determine what is going on, rendering them useless for analysis.

If there were a clip of the video from end-to-end, without cuts we might be able to do a little analysis. Very hard to tell how much of the video has a guy visible in the seat and how much has him not visible in the seat. For all we know, he just bent down to pick up a quarter during one segment.

 

[Magical Realist]

If there were a clip of the video from end-to-end, without cuts we might be able to do a little analysis.

I already posted that in post #3. It's the whole 14 minute video from end of end with no editing. If you had actually looked at that video would have known that.

 

[DaveC426913]

I already posted that in post #3. It's the whole 14 minute video from end of end with no editing.

This is patently false. I even provided a screenshot showing some obvious editing insertions.

See the screenshot with timestamp 4 which contains some stock footage of someone typing on a keyboard and a superimposed scary face. Here it is again so you don't tax your short memory:


Or will you assert that there was someone on the rollercoaster typing on a keyboard?


That's just one of the more visual elements, easily seen in a screen cap. The video is 14 minutes long, yet the other fella - who supposedly took the footage - has less than about three. All the rest is lurid filler to tell a story.
Do you just ignore what doesn't suit you?

If you had actually looked at that video would have known that.

I did. I suspect you did not.

 

[Magical Realist]

LOL The whole unedited video is contained between the 5:00 minute mark and the 7:15 mark. Ofcourse the commentary video is edited., But that's not the original video provided. Evidently you didn't watch the whole video or you would've know the whole unedited video was included.

 

[DaveC426913]

What you actually said was:

It's the whole 14 minute video from end of end with no editing.

Here's the full unedited video sent in to a Youtube channel.

Both of which are false.

As usual, now that you're caught in lies, you start weaseling and backpedaling, as if the words you actually said aren't on-record for all to see.

Once a falsehood is pointed out, and you continue to double-down on it, then it is a deliberate falsehood - also known as a lie. And you know better by now because you've been caught in this same lie at least three times just this month..

But please feel free to triple-down on it. You know what happens next.

In the meantime, once you have been exposed as being dishonest about a particular subject, the onus now lies on you to demonstrate you've chosen to turn over a new leaf and move forward honestly. A good choice at this point would be: 'OK, I lied. "The 14 minute video from end-to-end" is not unedited.' Otherwise we are justified in assuming that one lie won't simply breed more. That's how dishonesty works.

 

[Magical Realist]

Here's the full unedited video sent in to a Youtube channel. Clearly no trickery is involved in the editing at all.

It is quite clearly extensively edited and luridly embellished. So that's a lie.

So now that you know that I DID post the entire unedited video from end to end, your claim that it was edited is totally refuted. So how to explain the person in the last car of the roller coaster now?

 

[DaveC426913]

So now that you know that I DID post the entire unedited video from end to end, your claim that it was edited is refuted.

I refuted your words, which were explicitly misleading and dishonest, weasel.

Why would anyone engage with a confirmed liar? Do you think you warrant good faith engagement?

What you warrant is already addressed in post #2:

Fake: ghost bunker with an agenda and a video editing suite.

GIGO: garbage in, garbage out, my dude.

See if you can post an article without immediately lying about it. Baby steps.

 

[Magical Realist]

IOW, you got nothin. Next poster..

 

[DaveC426913]

Wise choice.

 

[DaveC426913]

05:43 - no rider is visible in the back seat.


05:56 - the next time the coaster is seen: A dark lump has just barely risen above the seat in front, and is distinguishable against the red seat back.


05:57 - dark lump is larger and higher, as if rising from behind the seat:


05:58 - lump is quite visible, but no head. This is consistent with the shoulder and back of a rider crouched behind the seat and in the process of sitting up. It's only been two seconds.


The evidence of the rising dark figure is more clear when you watch the video from 05:56 to 05:58. Screen captures of single frames are necessarily blurred.

06:09 - Next time the coaster is visible. Ten seconds has passed - rider is sitting fully upright.



Everything in this video is consistent with a dark figure crouched down in the last seat and sitting up at the 5:56 mark, taking approx 2 seconds to do so.

This is too simple to even be a footnote in my book of The Pitfalls of Believing Too Hard.

 

[Magical Realist]

Everything in this video is consistent with a dark figure crouched down in the last seat and sitting up at the 5:56 mark, taking approx 2 seconds to do so.

And then suddenly completely disappearing from the car! No shadow crouching down or anything. So no, there was no crouching going on and the man even said there was no room to crouch down and noone got into that car or left the car when the ride was over. I infer that the shadow may be the apparition in the process of forming in the car as they are often witnessed to do. Or else just shadows on the car from overhead structures. Nobody would crouch down on a rollercoaster ride. It doesn't make sense.