DaveC426913
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A forecast
UFOs (UAPs): Explanations?
- Thread starter Magical Realist
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For a second there, I thought I was looking at a poor rendering of one of Rothko's Black on Gray series.
lol @ ''bugs''
There's no mention of ''advanced human intelligences'' in your graph. Omg, do we need to start all over again on this topic? lol
DaveC426913
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ANHI was an invention of Magical Realist's. After about 8000 posts of being coy, he finally revealed what he believes is at the centre the UAP fuss and folderol. I thought it waranted inclusion for comparison.
As for AHI's, well there's some purdy smart folks out there flying aircraft, so they can be subsumed under "Airplanes".
God I hope so. It would be nice to have a fresh start, without all the silly denial-prone illogic that this one is saddled with. Maybe the next thread will promote quality over quantity. Or have any at all. Quality, that is.
I'm thinking of requesting that this thread be closed.
Pinball1970
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Depends on time of year but you can see Mars too. Dr Becky has a great channel on what you can see and when. I try in the morning but I suck at it.
Magical Realist
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Yes...in the pre-dawn sky. We're talking the daylit sky when the sun is up. The sun and its blue sky has a way of fading out other luminous bodies. Ever see the moon in the daytime? Very faint. Same effect on Venus.
foghorn
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Pinball stay in bed, the video is two years old.
Venus is now in the evening sky. Try looking south tomorrow after sunset.
On 18th of this month Saturn will be very near it too.
DaveC426913
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Again: Venus is quite visible during the day, when the Sun is up.
Venus always stands out brighter than any star (and several stars are visible before the sun soes down too.)
That does not mean you will easily pick Venus out of the the blue sky at local noon when the sun is at its brightest.
But there is nothing in the video that tells what what time of day the sighting was, how dark it actually was (as opposed to what the recording auto-balanced to) or how high in the sky the sighting was.
Unless those can all be nailed down and ruled out, there is no way to exclude Venus.
This isn't meant to be photo evidence, but this is an approximation of what Venus looks like in the daytime sky.
It is an improbably bright dot, noticeably bigger than the pinpoint of a star. A pair of good eyes are capable of making out the crescent shape if it's in the right phase. That's how big and bright it is during the day.
And being out of focus make it appear even larger in a camera image.
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Pinball1970
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It was the first video that popped up. My point to MR was that these celestial bodies are visible in daylight.
Magical Realist
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You forgot to include Coleman lantern sky lanterns, helium balloons that never rise, mirages of rivers in the sky, daytime Venus, horizontally divebombing falcons, high velocity blimps, and metallic radar jamming balloons. Afterall, one cannot exclude the patently absurd when desperately trying to explain away the obvious. Ahhh..The magic of critical thinking!
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Magical Realist
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Amazing eyewitness account of a triangular uap:
"On a tranquil vacation to a village getaway, I found myself captivated by the stars that adorned the night sky. Little did I know that this journey would lead me to an encounter that defied explanation, leaving me awe-inspired and speechless."
I had an unforgettable UFO encounter during a vacation when I ventured to a serene village and found myself captivated by the stars every night for hours on end. One particular evening, as the world around me fell into tranquil silence and the breeze ceased to stir, a brilliant golden light emerged on the horizon. My mind raced to comprehend its origin, but before I knew it, this enigmatic light streaked across the sky with astonishing speed, merely 200-300 feet above me. In a fraction of a second, it traversed the entire expanse of the horizon, revealing its distinctive form—a long, triangular craft emitting a radiant golden trail. Every surface glowed with an ethereal, golden-yellow hue, against the backdrop of an immaculately clear sky. Astonishingly, the craft moved with absolute silence, leaving me in awe and speechless. It was a moment beyond words, an encounter that defied explanation.
Having delved into numerous UFO reports, I've developed an understanding of distinguishing between our familiar crafts and the unknown. This experience, however, stood apart, firmly cementing my belief that I'd witnessed something beyond our world. I'm eager to hear your thoughts and opinions, and if you've also had such an encounter, I encourage you to share your own remarkable experiences. Together, we can explore the uncharted territories of the cosmos and unravel the mysteries that lay beyond."----- https://forums.space.com/threads/a-night-of-wonder-my-unforgettable-ufo-encounter.62661/
"On a tranquil vacation to a village getaway, I found myself captivated by the stars that adorned the night sky. Little did I know that this journey would lead me to an encounter that defied explanation, leaving me awe-inspired and speechless."
I had an unforgettable UFO encounter during a vacation when I ventured to a serene village and found myself captivated by the stars every night for hours on end. One particular evening, as the world around me fell into tranquil silence and the breeze ceased to stir, a brilliant golden light emerged on the horizon. My mind raced to comprehend its origin, but before I knew it, this enigmatic light streaked across the sky with astonishing speed, merely 200-300 feet above me. In a fraction of a second, it traversed the entire expanse of the horizon, revealing its distinctive form—a long, triangular craft emitting a radiant golden trail. Every surface glowed with an ethereal, golden-yellow hue, against the backdrop of an immaculately clear sky. Astonishingly, the craft moved with absolute silence, leaving me in awe and speechless. It was a moment beyond words, an encounter that defied explanation.
Having delved into numerous UFO reports, I've developed an understanding of distinguishing between our familiar crafts and the unknown. This experience, however, stood apart, firmly cementing my belief that I'd witnessed something beyond our world. I'm eager to hear your thoughts and opinions, and if you've also had such an encounter, I encourage you to share your own remarkable experiences. Together, we can explore the uncharted territories of the cosmos and unravel the mysteries that lay beyond."----- https://forums.space.com/threads/a-night-of-wonder-my-unforgettable-ufo-encounter.62661/
DaveC426913
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Venus. Broad daylight in a blue sky:
I took this a half hour ago with my little pocket camera as I Ieft work.
s=1/125, z=30.5mm, f=2.8, ISO 200
Venus was in the Southern sky about 30 degrees up. Hard to miss.
Except for cropping, the pic is unaltered in any way.
I have not brightened it, nor changed the colour nor anything else.
No overexposure, no underexposure. Camera was on auto.
I did set the focus a little short of infinity - it is out-of focus a little, just as the images in the posted video.
It's a pity it was a cold day - there wasn't a cloud to be seen, or I could have gotten an even better exemplar.
You'll notice there's even a dark centre - an image artifact almost exactly like our giant-brained vlogger saw.
And - gosh darn it - it moved! It slowly moved away from me until, an hour later, I had lost sight of it.
If anyone is interested in the original with EXIF data, or details about the location/time/angle, I am happy to provide.
But there it is, Venus in a bright blue sky.
I took this a half hour ago with my little pocket camera as I Ieft work.
s=1/125, z=30.5mm, f=2.8, ISO 200
Venus was in the Southern sky about 30 degrees up. Hard to miss.
Except for cropping, the pic is unaltered in any way.
I have not brightened it, nor changed the colour nor anything else.
No overexposure, no underexposure. Camera was on auto.
I did set the focus a little short of infinity - it is out-of focus a little, just as the images in the posted video.
It's a pity it was a cold day - there wasn't a cloud to be seen, or I could have gotten an even better exemplar.
You'll notice there's even a dark centre - an image artifact almost exactly like our giant-brained vlogger saw.
And - gosh darn it - it moved! It slowly moved away from me until, an hour later, I had lost sight of it.
If anyone is interested in the original with EXIF data, or details about the location/time/angle, I am happy to provide.
But there it is, Venus in a bright blue sky.
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Magical Realist
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Magical Realist has been permanently banned from sciforums for incorrigible trolling and repeatedly and knowingly telling lies.
It was already explained to you, via my post here and by pm, that I have nothing whatsoever to apologize for since I wasn't ever wrong. Your ridiculous claim of the peregrin falcon, which you copied and pasted from Reddit, was totally debunked, and the exact duplicate of the photo WAS an exact duplicate. At this point your sick obsession with nitpicking such petty trivialities just to ban me for tells me nothing has changed nor will ever change here. You simply can't and never could handle the fact that I repeatedly post compelling evidence for uaps and the paranormal here in a subforum mean't for just that and that defies all attempts to debunk it. So you censor this information from getting out by banning me for the vague trumped up charge of "trolling".. And that's what you are doing now. So own up to your own actions James. Let the record forever show here that you are the one banning me for no legit reason just as you always have. And that is clear to every one here.
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You saw the name of the alien vessel on the side??? HMS Venus? USS Venus? ASF Venus (Alien Space Force)?
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Magical Realist was also a troll who liked to try to provoke angry reactions from other members. His lies and his blanket claims that such-and-such "could only be" this or "could not possibly be" that - which he continued to repeat long after it was clearly demonstrated that his claims were wrong - were calculated to provoke an emotional reaction.
Many of the "inappropriate behaviour" warnings issued were for trolling and for knowingly telling lies. Magical Realist was an incorrigible repeat-offender who only ever altered his behaviour long enough for warning points to expire; then he would resume his business-as-usual lying and trolling ways. He openly stated that he did not care about the site posting rules on many occasions, but he was smart enough to obey them just enough to stay unbanned for most of his time on the forum.
Unable to bring himself to discuss his beliefs in good faith, Magical Realist chose today to sacrifice himself on the hill of two specific lies, both of which were of very little importance when taken individually. However, with both lies he stayed true to the general pattern of his behaviour in all his time here.
The last words he posted here attest to his dishonest character. He was consistent in his trolling behaviour to the end.
On the positive side, Magical Realist did prompt some interesting and useful discussion among the membership, in particular concerning UAP "phenomena". Magical Realist himself seldom made any useful contribution to those discussions, although he often tried to troll them.
I wish Magical Realist all the best for his "real life" outside of sciforums, and thank him for the positive contributions he has made to the forum over the years.
To the members:
Since Magical Realist was such a prominent antagonist in the current thread, I suggest that we now close the thread and start a new one for analysis of UAP phenomena.
This seems like a good opportunity to wipe the slate clean and to leave MR's baggage as a historical record. Hopefully, we can attract some new people who want to argue for the presence of space aliens and the like, but who are able to prosecute their arguments without the taint of intellectual dishonesty and trolliness that Magical Realist brought to the topic.
What do you think?
Also, if you'd like to post your thoughts about Magical Realist and his contributions here, I'll leave the thread open for a little while to allow you to do that.
There are arguments that might be made for leaving this thread open and allowing it to continue from here - possibly a good argument. If you'd like to put that argument to me, I will certainly consider it.
Since Magical Realist was such a prominent antagonist in the current thread, I suggest that we now close the thread and start a new one for analysis of UAP phenomena.
This seems like a good opportunity to wipe the slate clean and to leave MR's baggage as a historical record. Hopefully, we can attract some new people who want to argue for the presence of space aliens and the like, but who are able to prosecute their arguments without the taint of intellectual dishonesty and trolliness that Magical Realist brought to the topic.
What do you think?
Also, if you'd like to post your thoughts about Magical Realist and his contributions here, I'll leave the thread open for a little while to allow you to do that.
There are arguments that might be made for leaving this thread open and allowing it to continue from here - possibly a good argument. If you'd like to put that argument to me, I will certainly consider it.
foghorn
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Maybe change the thread’s location to another forum category?
“ On The Fringe” was probably the reason for the not so serious atmosphere and hence the clowning.
Although lying and trolling is not clowning.
Hopefully another pot-boiler person will come along for the site, someone (this time) not having to lie and troll (disrupt) in order to disguise their feelings at having their beliefs questioned.
“ On The Fringe” was probably the reason for the not so serious atmosphere and hence the clowning.
Although lying and trolling is not clowning.
Hopefully another pot-boiler person will come along for the site, someone (this time) not having to lie and troll (disrupt) in order to disguise their feelings at having their beliefs questioned.
DaveC426913
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foghorn
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Funny seeing the reddish colour.
Knowing it’s Venus for sure (I do believe you Dave, really), I would have said it wasn’t Venus even out of focus.
That’s a new artefact effect for me, lens, CCD or something else?