UFOs (UAPs): Explanations?

Discussion in 'UFOs, Ghosts and Monsters' started by Magical Realist, Oct 10, 2017.

  1. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Whatever you say..
     
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  3. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Is that a joke? The last video you posted where I proved to you planes can have large props was out of focus. That's just the most recent example.
     
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  5. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    It was out of focus then brought into clear focus,
     
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  7. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Perfect. So, you acknowledge a double standard.

    When it suits your purpose, an out-of-focus image is plenty to determine that it's not a certain object. When it does not suit your purpose, you reverse your standard and an out-of-focus image is not enough for you to make anything out.

    And this is what Magical Realist think is rational analysis.

    Just so we have that on record.
     
  8. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    So true...
    Time for a quote concerning this gullibility and nonsense.....

    "There's a fascinating frailty of the human mind that psychologists know all about, called "argument from ignorance." This is how it goes. Remember what the "U" stands for in "UFO"? You see lights flashing in the sky. You've never seen anything like this before and don't understand what it is. You say, "It's a UFO!" The "U" stands for "unidentified." But then you say, "I don't know what it is; it must be aliens from outer space, visiting from another planet." The issue here is that if you don't know what something is, your interpretation of it should stop immediately. You don't then say it must be X or Y or Z. That's argument from ignorance. It's common. I'm not blaming anybody; it may relate to our burning need to manufacture answers because we feel uncomfortable about being steeped in ignorance."

    NEIL DEGRASSE TYSON, Space Chronicles: Facing the Ultimate Frontier
     
  9. river

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    Did anybody ask him what books he read about UFO's ? Otherwise ironically he then , himself is steep in ignorance , Having not read any book on the topic , of UFO's .
     
  10. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    He is a professor of science and as such is more knowledgable then your own questionable knowledge, or more correctly lack there of, of the science involved and as evident by your exclusion from science threads.
    He also talks common sense, unlike yourself.
    It is your ignorance that is in question, and gullibility, not his.
     
  11. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    It depends how out of focus and what would therefore be unrecognizable. While the video of the white/silver disc is a little out of focus, it's not so out of focus that any possible wings or tail become invisible. You should still be able to see them. But you can't. The fly photo that you showed out of focus WAS out of focus enough to make it unrecognizable. It's always a matter of degree of obfuscation vs. degree of visibility. Anything else you wanna spend whole pages of this thread to try and catch me on?
     
  12. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    If it was in clear focus, why then couldn't we make out what it was? It went in focus for a second, then back out of focus.
     
  13. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    https://www.sciencealert.com/ufo-nasa-iss-sighting-debunked-fireballs-video-james-oberg-not-aliens

    This Former NASA Engineer Has Debunked Pretty Much Every Online UFO Sighting

    FIONA MACDONALD
    21 NOVEMBER 2017
    You've probably seen more than your fair share of stories about UFO sightings. An astronaut on the ISS just has to catch footage of a fireball shooting across Earth's skies, and conspiracy theorists have a field day. Whether it's clouds that look like spaceships or rogue meteors, the internet loves a good alien conspiracy.
    more at link....


    extract:
    Our human senses are so used to focussing on relatively slow-moving objects, as well as certain light and atmosphere conditions, that when things change, our brains get confused.

    "Our sensory system is functioning absolutely perfectly for Earth conditions," Oberg told Giaimo. "But we're still a local civilisation. Moving beyond our neighbourhood has been visually confusing."

    Some of the most common sighting he has to debunk are to do with NASA astronauts reportedly seeing UFOS and being forced to keep silent, which Oberg says is a result of us watching too much sci-fi and not really understanding what space really looks like.

    "I've had enough experience with real spaceflight to realise that what's being seen in many videos is nothing beyond the 'norm' from fully mundane phenomena occurring in unearthly settings," Oberg writes over on his site."
     
  14. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Precisely. So that rules out it being anything known like a plane, a bird, a cloud, or a weather balloon. It remains a type of object that we are unfamiliar with, such as a silver disc, or a 40 ft tic tac, or a black triangle, or a spinning top.
     
  15. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    It stayed in focus at the end of the video, long enough to show it to be a ufo.
     
  16. river

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    As a professor of science , ( astrophysics really) then Naturally he would have further investigated written documents on the subject .
     
  17. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    With wings and a spinning prop on the front?
     
  18. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    The prop was your interpretation. I'm not so sure about that. The object seemed to me to be hovering in place.
     
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  19. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    And rejected obviously.
     
  20. river

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    Not obviously .

    Nobody knows the books Tyson has read , if any .
     
  21. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    You've been shown pics flying objects in which wings cannot be discerned. That is not the same as not having wings.
     
  22. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    I don't need to read Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs to understand its a fairy tale....Tyson does not need to read all books on UFO's to understand that claiming they are Alien is nonsense, and that at best, they simply remain as Unidentified.
    Tyson's intelligence and professionalism is not in question here: It is your gullibility and ignorance that is in question again.
     
  23. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    The spinning prop was obvious even when out of focus. There is no way you can tell it was hovering.
     

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