TROOPS IN KOREA
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Someone needs to keep those atheist zealots contained. What I find interesting is the Christian nature of the food relief which is helping the North Korean's survive their athiest blunder. <img src = "http://www.exosci.com/ubb/icons/icon10.gif">
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It's all very large.
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It's all very large.
Bowser--
What history books do you read? And what do you smoke when you read them?
Could you please establish that Atheism is the defining movement in North Korea, or else simply drop it?
Yeah, should I remind you what our last "containment" mission in Asia got us?
The one thing that history will show is that Americans believed Communism a threat to it from its inception. The first aid we sent to the Bolsheviks after the 1918 revolution were actually operatives to destabilize them. By the time we sold out the Soviets in WWII, is it any wonder they were sick of us? Maybe if the rest of us got on with life, and stopped causing the conditions to which Communism (the defining principle in our beef with the Koreans ... we sent people to fight and die over it, remember?) objects to, we won't having Communists popping up and causing so many problems.
Hmmm ... lessee ... I couldn't find much at Britannica.com about Korean atheists. I found some mention of "Communism, materialism, atheism, and nihilism," evil spirits beguiling North Korea. But that comes from a christian newsletter by the Korea Campus Crusade for Christ, which also notes,
So, sure, you're on as far as that goes.
I also notice that you have mentioned the Christian efforts ... I suppose you advocate their theistic presence, which arrived in Korea in the 18th and 19th centuries, and supplanted the Buddhist and Confucianist traditions that already existed? Or the native Chandogyo tradition combining taoism, Buddhism, and Confucianism?
Or are you going to tell me that's a shortcoming of pagan religions?
At any rate, there is some religion in North Korea, though not much. Frankly, I don't care, since the more advanced religions don't seem to evangelize as much, and the social tyranny of the evangelical churches invites a low-key chaos.
http://cti.itc.virginia.edu/~jkh8x/relfree/nationprofiles/North_Korea.html is a US Department of State summary of religious freedom in Korea. Not quite atheist, but I've never really believed that Atheism was the central theme of the regime in North Korea.
thanx,
Tiassa
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Whether God exists or does not exist, He has come to rank among the most sublime and useless truths.--Denis Diderot
What history books do you read? And what do you smoke when you read them?
Could you please establish that Atheism is the defining movement in North Korea, or else simply drop it?
Yeah, should I remind you what our last "containment" mission in Asia got us?
The one thing that history will show is that Americans believed Communism a threat to it from its inception. The first aid we sent to the Bolsheviks after the 1918 revolution were actually operatives to destabilize them. By the time we sold out the Soviets in WWII, is it any wonder they were sick of us? Maybe if the rest of us got on with life, and stopped causing the conditions to which Communism (the defining principle in our beef with the Koreans ... we sent people to fight and die over it, remember?) objects to, we won't having Communists popping up and causing so many problems.
Hmmm ... lessee ... I couldn't find much at Britannica.com about Korean atheists. I found some mention of "Communism, materialism, atheism, and nihilism," evil spirits beguiling North Korea. But that comes from a christian newsletter by the Korea Campus Crusade for Christ, which also notes,
So, sure, you're on as far as that goes.
I also notice that you have mentioned the Christian efforts ... I suppose you advocate their theistic presence, which arrived in Korea in the 18th and 19th centuries, and supplanted the Buddhist and Confucianist traditions that already existed? Or the native Chandogyo tradition combining taoism, Buddhism, and Confucianism?
Or are you going to tell me that's a shortcoming of pagan religions?
At any rate, there is some religion in North Korea, though not much. Frankly, I don't care, since the more advanced religions don't seem to evangelize as much, and the social tyranny of the evangelical churches invites a low-key chaos.
http://cti.itc.virginia.edu/~jkh8x/relfree/nationprofiles/North_Korea.html is a US Department of State summary of religious freedom in Korea. Not quite atheist, but I've never really believed that Atheism was the central theme of the regime in North Korea.
thanx,
Tiassa
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Whether God exists or does not exist, He has come to rank among the most sublime and useless truths.--Denis Diderot
Good link, Tiassa:
"...government-sponsored religious groups exist to provide illusion of religious freedom."
http://www.britannica.com/bcom/eb/article/2/0,5716,114852+2,00.html
http://www.state.gov/www/global/human_rights/1997_hrp_report/northkor.html
"Could you please establish that Atheism is the defining movement in North Korea, or else simply drop it?"
The moment that communism entered the picture. The moment that democracy ended. The moment that they placed their faith in humanism.
The communist state is its own god. It rules damn near every aspect of it's citizens' lives. Religion is suppressed or replaced to support the cult state, a state which does not recognize a god other than itself. Morality of the citizens is judged by the god state. True religion has no power in the decisions or laws of the communist state. North Korea is, with its lack of religious intervention, a church of atheism.
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Josef Stalin,
"A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic."
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It's all very large.
[This message has been edited by Bowser (edited October 08, 2000).]
"...government-sponsored religious groups exist to provide illusion of religious freedom."
http://www.britannica.com/bcom/eb/article/2/0,5716,114852+2,00.html
http://www.state.gov/www/global/human_rights/1997_hrp_report/northkor.html
"Could you please establish that Atheism is the defining movement in North Korea, or else simply drop it?"
The moment that communism entered the picture. The moment that democracy ended. The moment that they placed their faith in humanism.
The communist state is its own god. It rules damn near every aspect of it's citizens' lives. Religion is suppressed or replaced to support the cult state, a state which does not recognize a god other than itself. Morality of the citizens is judged by the god state. True religion has no power in the decisions or laws of the communist state. North Korea is, with its lack of religious intervention, a church of atheism.
<hr>
Josef Stalin,
"A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic."
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It's all very large.
[This message has been edited by Bowser (edited October 08, 2000).]