Write4U
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But time has already started with the BB which brought spacetime and infinite potential for change. However it can and does end for many changes and their duration.
Time and space has no connection.
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This is the misconception of time, in bold. Timing was only recorded and presumed by the BB, time is there even if nothing is there, the BB added a quantity to an invisible pink unicorn. We added this quantity. We created timing within time. Time is endless but never has a start.
Timing is a block period within time.
No. We use our brains to collect and process information. We extract useful knowledge and apply it to our basic needs, and thereby improve on older methods of survival.
In the process we throw off meaningless gibberish and superstition, and we begin to confront the facts of nature with candor.
But the above is your reply to my statements about your knowledge of Kepler. As I suspected you really aren't interested in his role in this subject.
Huh, a bit like saying yes you are correct but I disagree. Our basic needs are timing, and counting, our minds created all this, basic needs indeed. Has basic as a chess board.
Yes I choose to ignor Kepler, he did the counting for the abacus. It is not relevant to the thread.
There is no superstition in an axiom. Close your eyes, time exists without light, before light, it can not be argued that we use timing, and all interactions are timed by us and counted.
Time is timeless, existence and reality is timing .
If you die, time does not stop.
kx000
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You stop counting yet time rolls on. You can't stop time by not counting or holding your breath realize that time is rythym and vibration. It happens in nature. We go to sleep every night and wake up every morning like clockwork. Time is essential to the functioning of our mind. If there were no time we would all stop knowing. Learning is representation of times function. Remembering is essentially looking back in time.
No time evolved with space from the BB.
Your pink Unicorn obsession exists only in your mind.
The timing of your existence stops for you as an individual if you die,
Really, that is like saying time stops in the dark, the timing did not start until we defined it. then we pre-dated it back to the BB, and added more timing.
Time is not a thing.
Time does not roll on, time does not move, time does not have a presence, if you stopped counting, you would lose track of all your timing.
Motor Daddy
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If you stopped counting or measuring time it would be like your watch broke. You'd have to ask your buddy what time it is.
If you stopped counting the time that it takes a car to travel the 1/4 mile at the 1/8th mile point it would be like you timed the 1/8th mile, right?
...and GASP...what if the timer timed the car to the 60' point? Can you imagine?
Yes a car does count time. 60mph is equal to counting 1 hour.
Motor Daddy
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No.
No.
1. A car doesn't count time, a car burns fuel to produce power that gets work done, namely taking you to the grocery store ten miles away. But if you've ever noticed that if you look at the time at your house before you leave to the grocery store, it might read, say, 10:00 PM. But when you arrive at the grocery store 10 miles away, it is 10:45. Yes, it took you 45 minutes of time to travel to the grocery store. It doesn't matter if you knew the actual times or not, it happened whether you knew it (counted it or measured it) or not.
2. "60 Miles Per Hour" is a speed. If the speed remains constant the car will travel 60 miles from 10 PM to 11 PM. Notice the car traveled for 1 hour and traveled 60 miles? But you can also do "60 MPH" for 1 minute, from 10:03-10:04 PM, and travel 1 mile, not 60 miles.
3. See?
No, it is just saying that the Universe/space/time had a beginning. We call that beginning the BB
Time is not a physical thing...It is not completely understood, but it certainly does exist.
If it did not exist, neither would you or anything else.
Just as light, a specific part of the EMS exists.
Write4U
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Does time exist apart from space? If the universe emerged from a singularity, time must have been a singularity (a single quantum instant).
Time is a noun but does indicate a physical thing, it indicates an mathematical abstraction of duration of events in reality, very similar to the noun Potential, which also is a mathematical abstraction of energies before they become expressed in reality..
The difference is that potential is an inherently non-causal precondition, while time is an inherently non-causal result.
I see the universe as a permissive condition, which allows for measurable change. We have given names to the types of measurement, but by Ockham's razor, the term "permissive condition" is the most fundamental definition of spacetime, IMHO
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Motor Daddy
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I know religious people like to claim time is mysterious, because their thing doesn't match up with reality, but what do YOU claim is not known about time?
The deep underlying nature of it...the same as space...and why mass warps spacetime and we get gravity exhibited...and why the BB banged
These things all happened, and exist, but cosmology as yet cannot give us 100% reasons as to why...But we are learning. Perhaps a future QGT may reveal more.
Motor Daddy
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But how or why things happen has nothing to do with our understanding of how time works. We know how time works, and we measure it as accurately as we possibly can.
For example, our clocks might be slightly inaccurate over the course of 6,000 years, maybe even say, oh I don't know, 10 years off in 6,000 years? Certainly not millions of years off. No?
Except space and time [as we know them] evolved from the BB.
I'm beginning to hate clocks!
Time exists....Although the subject is still open, the majority of physicists accept the existence of time as non physical entity although still obviously real.
I am unable to explain it any better from my layman's position, but these links may help...
The first one is from Kip Thorne recognised as probably the world's foremost authority on gravity, BH's ans Time.
http://plus.maths.org/content/time-travel-allowed
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/GR/time_travel.html
http://www.livescience.com/39159-time-travel-with-wormhole.html
Motor Daddy
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