Tiassa at Sciforums in Three Acts and an Epilogue (for the Haters)

Re: Re: messiah meph and the dank ass

Originally posted by Mephura
Strategy? I can honestly say no.

If you are going to make observations spookz, dont half ass them. Then again, you half ass everything else, so why should this be any different.

and of course it would be an exercise in futilty to ask you to back your assertion up eh?

how does a question become an observation?
 
how does a question become an observation
When the spectator is blindfolded.


and of course it would be an exercise in futilty to ask you to back your assertion up eh

Of course not, now that those pesky excalamation points and the petty namecalling has cooled.

If you think me and Mephura are up there in a pm box scheming, you're wrong. Childsplay. The polemics and fistfighting is for down here. The personal stuff is for up there and elsewhere.
The only thing we disscussed concering Tessie's little thread here was how to finish it off with a bang.

So I did the best way I knew how. No one's been acting. I really can't fucking stand Tiassa. Any lay preacher for that matter. Mephura had his own opinions.

All of you who don't know what 'evasssssa' is are of course left in the dark, but I can't help that. And the only reason why I gave it a look of it being a play at the end is because I'm a sucker for colorful barbs and what better way to tie this all up then the way Willy did?
Going to hold it against me?
 
When the spectator is blindfolded.

what do you mean (please god let her be serious)

Of course not, now that those pesky excalamation points and the petty namecalling has cooled.

ok then. if you do speak for meph, i await my halfassedness

If you think me and Mephura are up there in a pm box scheming, you're wrong.

so what if you do? i just decided to fling some shit and sure enough it stuck

Childsplay.

bullshit. this thead is akin to a hornets nest, and you are covered in bites

The only thing we disscussed concering Tessie's little thread here was how to finish it off with a bang.

well well. your honesty is appreciated and mephs lack of it is noted

So I did the best way I knew how.

why do you insist on getting flayed?

No one's been acting.

you can keep a straight face and say this? i havent encountered anyone here that has quite the flair for drama as you do

I really can't fucking stand Tiassa. Any lay preacher for that matter.

get past the personality shit. the psych issues are yours not his

Mephura had his own opinions.

i am not impressed

Going to hold it against me?

dunno. perhaps if cunthed provides me with a diversion.....
 
Gendanken

I'm not defending anything
Liar.

What, you didn't make a point of stressing the value of hatred?
In the end, his little thread showed that he wasn't immune. His gospels crumbled in the face of adversity. He was no longer comfortable. He showed that he too could be a 'whore'.

And yet some 20 odd pages into his bilge................he still doesn't get it.
Obviously, Gendanken, you haven't given due thought to the fact that it doesn't hurt my argument that I'm a human being like anyone else in this case. In fact, if one is to view my courtesy in acknowledging your preferred tone of attempted communication as a drawback, well, it only goes to serve my point about the uselessness of hatred and irrationality.

Yes, these pages of your putrid pronouncements are completely useless. No, my argumentative style does not transcend the vulgar brutality of the defenders of hatred; nothing in history suggests that they are capable of understanding the value of a more civilized and intellectual discourse.
So I take the little man up and string him out post for post to the point where he's calling XEV, GENDY, LUCYSNOW, MEPHURA and some others nonplussed a bunch of pathetic miserable existences with pubescent pubesecnt putrecent poppycock.
Is that part of your screenplay?

Xev and Lucysnow had already earned the scorn they so eagerly requested by the time you leapt frantically to the cause. Mephura? I don't know what the fuck Mephura's problem is.

And yes, Gendanken, you are dishonest. See the above quotation regarding Xev, Gendy, Lucysnow, and Mephura for an example of your dishonesty. But we already knew you were a cheap liar. Dealing with that is one of the costs now registered to be recognized in advance before addressing any issue with you.

What is it that compels you to defend hatred, behave hatefully, obsess on defiling a child, and then deny your former actions all in pursuit of a Tiassa?

What compels you to illustrate my point so clearly?
 
I wonder who my fellow insomniacs are.

There's very little to do at 2 o'cklock in the morning when the silence is too loud. So-

Firstly: someone's recently let me know that its 'weltschmerz' and not 'weltzmertze'

Secondly: Consider this point and I'm perfectly open to have someone like spooky pounce on me with exclamation points for talking too much.

Was it not envy and spite for the Russians that put a man on the moon? It wasn't global fellowship or benevolence.

Sputnik was seen as a threat, yes?
 
Remember: When you multiply fractions against fractions, the product gets smaller

The only thing we disscussed concering Tessie's little thread here was how to finish it off with a bang.
Well ... what? Back to the drawing board? Or is it another six or twelve parting shots, farewells, and so forth?

Or now that you've obsessed over my daughter, did you want to lust after my cat?

One-half times one-half equals one-quarter, as I recall.

The efficacy of your planning indicates that it is not wise for the two of you to act in concert at all. Quite demonstrably, both your capacities are further reduced by the association.

It explains why neither one of you is bothering with a point.
 
Tessie:
Liar.

What, you didn't make a point of stressing the value of hatred?

Granted. I'll give you that. But that was only after the 'toots'. However, if you backtrack you'd find that what I proposed was a silver lining.

Perhaps its the background noise. I don't like hating to hate. All to a purpose.

And yes, Gendanken, you are dishonest. See the above quotation regarding Xev, Gendy, Lucysnow, and Mephura for an example of your dishonesty.

No. I'm not dishonest. Did you or did you not sound like a fevered roach on my parodies thread? The scholar put his books down in that thread and showed us who he really was. Or at least that he could wallow in the mud like the rest of 'them'. No? I'm not making it up.
 
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Tessie
It explains why neither one of you is bothering with a point.

And your refusing to vouchsafe another the dignity of at least having one is what keeps me from exiting. You're like the world's most horrible itch.

Obsession with your daughter, bosh. It was a proposal to see what would become of your noxious idealism in the face of priority and displacement.
 
wes

well, I'd imagine in real life I'd root out all the rats. however as long as you're just a disembodied typists, all of you fucks are stuck being my family.

cyberspace is an extension of the real world. if this may not be apparent to some, it is due to a lack of imagination. however if you insist......can we at least consider them umm.... evil step children?

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Spookz
cyberspace is an extension of the real world. if this may not be apparent to some, it is due to a lack of imagination
Good point. Surprise number two.

......can we at least consider them umm.... evil step children?
Only the disenfranchised will
 
So ... remind us again?

Remind us again, Gendanken, why you dove naked into the nettles if you weren't prepared to scratch?
 
Hatred is a construct to even the score. Things get out of balance, a little hate comes down (of course this "balance" is quite complex and unfair) to knock things back the other way. Obviously, it can't be eliminated as it is part of the psyche... and as long as there is just a wee bit o the hate, the system will oscillate.

I would say however that from this simple example one can see how the attempt to minimize hate can help to keep interactions in general more towards fair. In general, people agree that fair is good (though I tend to doubt most conceptions thereof), so... you know. What's the ado about again?

Oh, and I think that 'hate' is almost unavoidable (at least in short bursts) if you're a human. Certainly much of it depends on your particular balance of nuerochemicals. Hell a little pressure on the amygdala (i think) and you can be a hatefull raving lunatic. It's not always about "how enlightened you are" when it comes to hate. Sometimes it's just pot luck. Most everyone has the nuerochemicals for hate just laying in wait for good stimulous to let them have a go at being active circuitry. So very few humans can actually manipulate their thoughts in such a manner that it can keep those hateful nuerochemicals at bay. If you can, you're quite gifted (some get it by luck too).

So again until the nature of man changes, hate will be around - in all of us to an extent. It's like most abstracts when stretched across different perspectives, sort of like a star's struggle between gravity and nuclear forces. Each perspective creating a niche and dragging the others toward it while being ripped away from it's own position by the other perspectives.

:m:

nevermind.
 
Wes:
So again until the nature of man changes, hate will be around - in all of us to an extent. It's like most abstracts when stretched across different perspectives, sort of like a star's struggle between gravity and nuclear forces. Each perspective finding a niche and pushing the others toward it while being ripped away by the other forces.

Granted. And when you factor in the chaos of the cosmos as a microcosm of the neurologic makeup that we're founded on, its insane to think that with reason you can get rid of a powerful force such as this.


Obviously, it can't be eliminated as it is part of the psyche... and as long as there is just a wee bit o the hate, the system will oscillate
Beautiful. As was said, we are multi-nuanced each and every one of us. Withdrawing or perverting either shade of what makes man a man makes for pathologies.

Tessie:
Remind us again, Gendanken, why you dove naked into the nettles if you weren't prepared to scratch?
"Intellectual shadenfreude."

However, you look pretty scratched to me Tessie.
 
Spooky:
you patronizing bitch!
Egads. The exclamation points are back! I don't patronize. You really did make a good point.

Of course, stomping you to jelly is way easier so its all a question of what you'd have me do to you, spooky.
 
Originally posted by gendanken
Granted. And when you factor in the chaos of the cosmos as a micrososm as a neurologic basis for what we are, its insane to think that with reason you can get rid of such a powerful force such as this.
Well, it's insane until the nature of man significantly changes... which might not be far off. *shrug* But advances withstanding I fully agree.

To me, hate is part of the "ugly side of beauty". (since I consider the subjective experience most beautiful (among other things))

Originally posted by gendanken
Beautiful. As was said, we are multi-nuanced each and every one of us. Withdrawing or perverting either shade of what makes man a man makes for pathologies.
Thank you. I agree with you about the pathologies thing but think it important to note that pathologies aren't inherently bad and a study leading to a pathology isn't necessarily perverted though I can see an argument to the contrary.
 
Why invite me if you're going to complain about it later?

No. I'm not dishonest. Did you or did you not sound like a fevered roach on my parodies thread? The scholar put his books down in that thread and showed us who he really was. Or at least that he could wallow in the mud like the rest of 'them'. No? I'm not making it up.
See? Hell, you invited me. Why complain just because you got fried? Don't ever give me that much source material. It was so easy it was boring.
"Intellectual shadenfreude."
And I've told you before that your schadenfreude is supposed to center around the misfortunes of others and not your own self.

Hell, I'm not particularly enjoying your retreat. I think it's rather quite a sad testament to your condition.
However, you look pretty scratched to me Tessie.
You and your genderbending, Gendy. That's the mirror you're looking at.

Don't get me wrong. You've put on a pretty lights show equivalent to Baghdad 2003, but I'm still wondering why it was way over there, and whether or not you ever at any point sought a rational goal.

Intellectual schadenfreude, no matter how perverse your definition, isn't particularly rational.

So whether you're unwilling or unable to comprehend, until you establish and pursue a rational end, you are indirectly at least serving my needs.

However, if you're flexible enough to actually stomp yourself to jelly, frankly I'd be impressed. Can't speak for Spookz on that count, but I'd applaud and throw you a quarter.
 
Re: wes

Originally posted by spookz
cyberspace is an extension of the real world.
Agreed but I don't see the relevance in context. Though you are real, I don't expect you to run into you. If I did, circumstances would immediately change since I'd suddenly have a LOT more information about you. Words from a disembodied typist inspire imagination, but they don't show me the face you're making when you say something, etc... there is only my theory as to what you might have been thinking. Generally I consider that pretty unreliable. The "chemistry" of an actual human interaction in person is significantly different.
Originally posted by spookz

if this may not be apparent to some, it is due to a lack of imagination.
Bullshit. Imagination will only get you a fantastic impression of what you think someone else is. Spend a few hours with them trying to solve a problem in person or well... you should see my point. Maybe I've missed yours?
Originally posted by spookz

however if you insist......can we at least consider them umm.... evil step children?
I can do that. The franchise sent me an email telling me I'm out.

:(

:D
 
tiassa

And your refusing to vouchsafe another the dignity of at least having one is what keeps me from exiting. (gen)

perhaps we are done?

gen, i am sure you are a decent type. stubborn but still decent.
bye
 
wes

Agreed but I don't see the relevance in context.

what is the context? that this medium is less expressive of one's true self? i could easily make out that inet accurately tells me about the real you! a forum is pure thought on display. extraneous info such as ethnicity, career, family, station in life, blah, is conveniently not an issue. in any case, if perceptive, one could easily discern this stuff (ethnici....) without it ever having been directly addressed

If I did, circumstances would immediately change since I'd suddenly have a LOT more information about you.

no wes you will not. i could remain poker faced and you will remain in the dark. expressiveness is for kids. i could be a homeless bum on the beach (which at one time i was) and you wouldnt give me the time of day. here on the internet, you do cos thoughts are what matters

Words from a disembodied typist inspire imagination, but they don't show me the face you're making when you say something, etc...

body language will find its counterpart on the internet. perhaps someone will make a science out intepreting the structure, styling and content of one's writings and give it a psych profile. smilies are there to help as well

there is only my theory as to what you might have been thinking. Generally I consider that pretty unreliable.

wes, its all in the numbers. if you are often proved wrong then your opinion is worthless. however if you tend to usually be right with your assessments of someone/something, go with it. this is where imagination and intelligent guesses com into play. trust your instincts.

The "chemistry" of an actual human interaction in person is significantly different.

the "sameness of it all" is one of my pet peeves but hey, thats just me

Bullshit. Imagination will only get you a fantastic impression of what you think someone else is.

imagination oft gets a bum rap of being fanciful. i use it to indicate a line of rational thought one would typically not explore. there remains a margin of error but i can work with that

Spend a few hours with them trying to solve a problem in person or well... you should see my point. Maybe I've missed yours?

dunno

I can do that. The franchise sent me an email telling me I'm out.

color me stupid but i missed the whole disenfranchised point
a revisit...

Agreed but I don't see the relevance in context.

why not rethink your approach? what you do not tolerate in real life should also extend into cyberspace or you would be consorting with pedos, mass murderers and loonies in no time at all. i am not saying we cannot go around trolling but when called into acct, be prepared to state your position. everybody will be watching;)
 
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