Things That Are Not There

No disagreement here, but that does not answer the question posed by the OP.

How is it, that we CAN see light in our minds, even in total darkness. Our brains seem to be able to imagine light (recall or create an image) from past memory alone. In fact we can observe ourselves from the outside, not only with actual mirrors, but mentally imagine you watching yourself from another point of view. A way of seeing a mental hologram.


All which you conjure up in paragraph two is not seeing.

Humpty Dumpty approach
 
All which you conjure up in paragraph two is not seeing.
Humpty Dumpty approach
I am fond of that story. As George Carling observed so acutely.

I believe that the concept of *seeing* has many applications in nature. Does a sunflower see the sun, it sure does sense it. How does a colorblind cuttlefish adopt the shape and color of its hiding place?

I just wanted to go a little deeper than the optical sciences and the ability to see visible light in extra-ordinary detail. Vision is one of the oldest survival mechanisms and extremely well developed in many species in one way or another.

But abstract imagining is also a form of seeing something that it is not there. Yet we can visualize it and even express it as in the Arts.
 
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I am fond of that story. As George Carling observed so acutely.

I believe that the concept of *seeing* has many applications in nature. Does a sunflower see the sun, it sure does sense it.

I just wanted to go a little deeper than the optical sciences and the ability to see visible light in extra-ordinary detail. Vision is one of the oldest survival mechanisms.

George Carlin you mean .

Sure , but not now Write4U .
 
Does a sunflower see the sun

No

How does a colorblind cuttlefish adopt the shape and color of its hiding place?

Don't know. If you know please enlighten me. I might be wrong but you gave something away with the word 'colourblind'

But abstract imagining is also a form of seeing something that it is not there.

Not it is not a form of seeing

Humpty Dumpty approach
 
Write4U said:
Does a sunflower see the sun?
No
Write4U said:
How does a colorblind cuttlefish adopt the shape and color of its hiding place?
Don't know. If you know please enlighten me. I might be wrong but you gave something away with the word 'colourblind'
Right, so how does it know what color scheme to adopt? It seems then that there are several ways of *seeing* or *sensing*

You are only addressing the narrow definition of *observing through eyes*, but as shown by Webster, the definition of *seeing* includes a much greater range of definitions.

The biggest problem always seems to be the difference between subjective human interpretation of data by relativistic observation and objective scientific mathematical potentials and functions, which sometimes may seem prima facie counter-intuitive..
 
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Right, so how does it know what color scheme to adopt? It seems then that there are several ways of *seeing* or *sensing*

Sensing is not seeing. Seeing is one of the senses.

You seem to be going down the path
  • Seeing is a sense
  • Feeling hot is a sense
  • Feeling hot is seeing

You are only addressing the narrow definition of *observing through eyes*, but as shown by Webster, the definition of *seeing* includes a much greater range of definitions.

Seeing though the eyes is the only definition I am interested in as it the relevant definition.

Not interested in 'seeing someone to the door'

Not interested when on the toilet doing number 2 my sphincter feels hot 'sensing' the curry had last night. That is not seeing and it's not in Webster.

The biggest problem always seems to be the difference between subjective human interpretation of data by relativistic observation and objective scientific mathematical potentials and functions, which sometimes may seem prima facie counter-intuitive..

Blooup.

Pardon me.

Not sure if that was the indigestible above or the curry.

Humpty Dumpty approach :)
 
I saw a person who had a white lighter reflecting off a brakelight of a red truck once...

Howd i get on page 1?
 
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If someone were to ask me "Do you see things that aren't there", I'd ask them to define "not there".
I might also point out that I can not see things that are there. Then there's the question about hearing things that are or aren't there, tasting things, etc.

To a psychiatrist (I have only a modicum of respect for the profession), I would counter that most things, if you're a physicist, "aren't there" in the sense matter, unless it's very dense, is mostly empty space, and ask is that what the question is about? Otherwise, in what way are they trying to do my head in?
 
Wikipedia defines a hallucination as, "a perception in the absence of external stimulus that has qualities of real perception." I would define visual hallucination as 'A delusional acceptance of an absurd visual phenomenon.' DE

Did you send your definetion to Mirriam-Webster or other publishing house of Dictionaries?

If you did was your definetion added to the following updated Dictionary?

Humpty :)
 
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