The West demonize Russia while the fact is they are the true demon.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by scorpius, Jul 7, 2021.

  1. scorpius a realist Valued Senior Member

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    I wouldnt call Russia fascist bro,makes you look silly



     
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  3. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    What would you call it to look clever?
     
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  5. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    what else are we supposed to call overly nationlistic authortarian countries that have illegally invaded and annexed neighbors territories?
     
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  7. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I don't know people who live in glass houses (as they say) should be careful throwing stones. We don't have a good track record either.
     
  8. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    well yes. but the last time the us expanded via military conquest was the spanish american war which was 123 years ago as opposed to russia which was 7 i think we have room to complain here.
     
  9. scorpius a realist Valued Senior Member

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    What would you call bombing Iraq murdering milions of muslims and stealing their oil then?
    And We never found those Weapons Of Mass Deception,yet..

    Then there was Afganistan,and Lybia ,,Syria, Cuba Venezuela,Vietnam..

    US is worlds bigest terrorist,if you cant admit it,youre delusional or a liar.

     
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  10. scorpius a realist Valued Senior Member

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    Still, Russia's ambition to influence the West is truly significant. Consider a few of the pro-Putin English language outlets.
    One that stands out is Russia Insider. Headed by the anti-Semitic American expatriate Charles Bausman, Russia Insider warns of American plots against Russia. It also operates a YouTube channel, Russia Insight, which offers various clips of Russian state television anchors insulting America, and Putin trolling various politicians and media figures. Russia Insider describes its team as a "crowdfunded" group of "fake news fighters."/quote

    And US wants to destroy Russia,what would you sugest they do?

     
  11. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Hey I personally love America, for their military of course.

     
  12. scorpius a realist Valued Senior Member

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    United Snakes maybe,,
    1776 great genocide of american indian,,remember

    And even today the US quest for world domination continues,,
    Iran,Iraq,Afganistan ,Lybia Syria, Cuba,Venezuela,

    Russia n china on the other hand only want to improve their and other countries peoples lives economies.thru fair trade..

    Meanwhile US Apple cant compete w Huawei so Tramp orders Canada to kidnap their Cfo MengWanzou on phoney charge and use her as bargaing chip in trade negotiations.

    Did the same w Japans Toshiba way back btw and French Alstrom(sp) co.
     
  13. scorpius a realist Valued Senior Member

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    To steal other nations riches we need military,yes and US been at it for way too long,
    ,what hapens when Russia or China fights back with better weapons
    Or just start using digital Yuan bypasing US $$ ? Your money will be worthless

    I love america too,,used to be great nation,,however the rich 1% runing the show are total slime,,while doing nothing for the poor..go see americas worst hoods for example on YT

     
  14. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Ah yes, but America stands for freedom. Does Russian and China??

     
  15. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Non sequitur.

    You should probably make that case and inquiry in its own thread.

    Meanwhile, the point stands: Separating Russia from any discussion of fascism should be possible according to the framework(s) describing fascism, but propaganda from the Moscow-based Nazi sympathizer would only strengthen the case for including Putin's organization.
     
  16. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    That's cute enough to print on a teeshirt!
     
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  17. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    the last time the us invaded and annexed territory was 1903 was the spanish-american war.
    the last time china did was 1988 during the during the johnson south reef skirmish
    the last time russia did was 2014 during you damn well know what.

    putin wants to regain russian hegemony over the countries around of it.
    china is preparing for future miltary conflicts and has been acting increasing belligerant.
    the us for all its flaws doesn't just randomly attack countries to take over like russia and china do.

    stalin and moa alone are each responsible for more deaths than the US
     
  18. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    russia can't afford a better military than us and china is decades away from truly having a better military and aren't truly willing to risk a fight against a country that can actually put up a fight. world war 2 was the last time the top militaries actually fought each other.
     
  19. scorpius a realist Valued Senior Member

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    Go visit and see for yourself



    If America stands for freedom why is Trump BANNED from Twiter and FB
     
  20. scorpius a realist Valued Senior Member

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    Russia n China has no intention to take over the world,,US with its expansionist miltarism would love to given a chance.

    I wont waste time with you or anyone ignoring the past evil deeds America did
    Remember Iraq ,Iran,Lybia Syria,Afganistan,Cuba,Venezuela, Vietnam

    American MO, send CIA spies into many countries create extremists groups fanatics terorist and sell more weapons ,,also invade and bomb n destroy in the name o democrazy and regime change

     
  21. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    You're just propaganda spam.
     
  22. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    LOL. Wake up Dorothy...
    The world seems very black and white for you doesn't it?
     
  23. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Okay, only parts of it:

    Russia has always wanted access to the Indian Ocean, before Communism, during Communism and after Communism (see Afghanistan).
    Russia has always wanted access to the Atlantic Ocean, before Communism, during Communism and after Communism (see Estonia, Latvia & Lithuania).

    These are just geographic realities that any government of Russia can't ignore.

    China has always wanted Taiwan.
    China would like to keep the territories that they have already conquered (see Tibet).
     

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