I never said that religious people were seeking something atheists are not.
Oh, but they are, at least some of them. That's the whole point of religion.
I never said that religious people were seeking something atheists are not.
Who is not answering questions again?
" Please then wynn, between the classifications and denominations we may find, which as far as i can think of are but not limited to, theist, atheist, gnostic, agnostic, deist, which one you think gets close to your path of choice? Enlighten me please.". It was a simple, objective question. Yet...
" I, on the other hand, do not think that the religious path one is on is entirely one's own choice or doing, as I allow that religions, God, and religious people exist with at least as much existential autonomy as I do. And since becoming a member of a religion necessarily involves the approval of God and/or members of said religion, pending such approval, one cannot rightfully deem oneself a member of said religion."
None, could've been a better answer. Still you filled the sausage on the verbose way, avoiding a direct answer.
" If there's anyone here who doesn't answer questions, it is you."
Oh sorry, point which question i haven't answered and i will gladly do that.
" You didn't comment on most of my comments to you.". Aww sorry baaabe that wasn't intentional D: U hurt?
That was a blurry argument at best. Let's give some credit to it. Just because i didn't separate every item within your comments and gave it a counter reply to each one of them doesn't mean that i haven't answered it on the whole. But anyway, if you still think that i haven't answered a single question, it's probably because by doing so i was going to repeat myself. Which renders pointless to answer it again. Just because you have not understood the answer i gave, doesn't mean that i have not actually answered. Am I the only one who's got the feeling that we are going far from the OP? Still... Repeating myself again.
" between the classifications and denominations we may find, which as far as i can think of are but not limited to, theist, atheist, gnostic, agnostic, deist, which one you think gets close to your path of choice?"
" I, on the other hand, do not think that the religious path one is on is entirely one's own choice or doing, as I allow that religions, God, and religious people exist with at least as much existential autonomy as I do. And since becoming a member of a religion necessarily involves the approval of God and/or members of said religion, pending such approval, one cannot rightfully deem oneself a member of said religion" or simply, for better or worse "None!". It's not "Nonsense".. We get what you mean! Now answer.
But the Devil is serving God. Without the threat of the Devil's punishments, God is all carrot and no stick. The con doesn't work as well without it.Like I said - he knows God, he knows the scriptures and theology, but doesn't want to serve God.
Sure, there is a large difference between the philosophy of a devil and the philosophy of an atheist, but they also overlap in one area - in that they both don't serve God.
The true atheist (the tables-and-chairs kind of atheist) can have no desire to either serve nor not to serve God, given that he has no working notion of God to begin with.
Then there is a wide range of the "devilish atheists" - people who have some working notion of God, and who also have some desire not to serve God.
Yes. Which is why it is so much more striking when a self-identified religious person wants to kick people in the face and piss on them, as opposed to when this same desire is expressed by people who claim no religious status.
I always thought that God was so pure that he couldn't be touched by the devil , and the devil couldn't be touched by God, because he was so evil and trashed out.But the Devil is serving God. Without the threat of the Devil's punishments, God is all carrot and no stick. The con doesn't work as well without it.
I always thought that God was so pure that he couldn't be touched by the devil , and the devil couldn't be touched by God, because he was so evil and trashed out.
According to Christian mythology, they have a working partnership.I always thought that God was so pure that he couldn't be touched by the devil , and the devil couldn't be touched by God, because he was so evil and trashed out.
If God is all powerful, so much so that that He can create a universe, He could easily destroy Satan in the blink of an eye and a wave of his magical hand.
I dont know and cannot say which perspective in this matter is right or wrong.
You made me wonder if everything has an opposite. Do you think this is true?
Some easy opposites are dirt and water
Now if we went on a larger scale would you agree or disagree that the opposite of a planet is a star?
Or would you say a planet has no opposite?
If God is all powerful, so much so that that He can create a universe, He could easily destroy Satan in the blink of an eye and a wave of his magical hand.
That would get into a Biblical perspective of 'Why He can indeed do that and why he does not do that'.
But the Devil is serving God. Without the threat of the Devil's punishments, God is all carrot and no stick. The con doesn't work as well without it.
God doesn't do that because He is a selfish, vindictive psychopath.
Arguing that God is a "psychopath" takes the superficial perspective of Humanism.
Believing that The Most High isn't eternal and thus had a beginning created by the imaginary fantasies of man.
However what had a beginning is the material world. Satan deceives man by attempting to twist and corrupt his mind by entwining it in the material world of the senses (like yours') and not the reality of the spirit.
Thus separating him and his mind from the higher level reality of meaning as much as possible.
Making us think that the dualistic forces are completely non-existent.
Thus blinding us from the Truth which is hardwired into us.
Actually, all it takes is to read the Bible to observe that behavior from God.
That would make the most sense.
If "spirit" were a reality, we would all know about it, that's why they call it reality, because we all share it the same way.
What higher level reality?
How many realities can you conjure? Isn't there supposed to be just one?
No one is making us think that something isn't there when it clearly isn't there. No one can make you think a leprechaun isn't standing in front of you.
Yet, there are a multitude of proclaimed Truths in the world, [...]
which one do YOU claim is hardwired into us?
Allow me to, if it's okay with you, elicit a thought from a simple question; if you were God, would you kill and destroy and divide those who are evil and reward those who try their best to be good and/ or who establish a connection of sorts with that higher level reality?
The world of deception surrounds and saturates our senses with un-Truth.
Meaning is found by going inward. Not outward.
The supreme reality of non-separation or unity/oneness.
One inevitably finds it an impossibility to "conjure" a reality. If you are, from the clearly vast knowledge you have of Quantum Science, speaking about the theory of John Wheeler that reality relates to mind via the interaction of awareness' between yours' and God's effecting a merging within the common medium of the meta-reality Langan expounded in his CTMU, saying that observation by telors or agents influences reality at varying levels, then yes, reality is conjured and manipulated. However, if you are speaking about absolution, then no, neither the higher reality of God nor the spirit world can be destroyed, not now, not ever.
To think is not to know. To think is to assume.
No, there aren't. There is only one Truth. And that Truth is a self-reifying theory known as the Universe.
I do not claim. I merely edify.
Absolutely not, I understand reward/punishment systems don't work. And, considering that if I were God and I created people that were evil, I wouldn't punish them, I would take responsibility for my own failures.
Gibberish.
Ah yes, you're that CTMU guy who got banned. Welcome back.
Yet, more gibberish.
In other words, you take no responsibility for the choice to oppose evil and embrace good.
Hence, you once more take the perspective of Humanism. The belief that good and evil can be explained away by Psychiatry.
You seem to only reinforce my characterization of you as "the stain of sciforums" by appealing to the perceived superiority in judgement of character by a misrepresented number of past moderators of sciforums to shelter you from the big bad theists at the risk of piercing your flawed perceptions. If I were moderator I'd make a moderator's note of your inferior character.
When you say "gibberish" are you denying my attempts to edify the Truth or are you being sincere in your interpretation of it?