The militarization of schools

[Simon Anders]

His idea, apart from that it would result in bad education, would instigate conflicts in general.
It's effectively driving a wedge between people, purposely..

I think he views nationalism as a kind of calisthenics for the soul. He does not think of it in a political way. It's like if you do sit ups and push ups and march you will learn to stand up straight. If you are nationalistic and patriotic your soul has good posture.

I'm not joking.

I think he sees the ideal man - not unlike certain sculptures with neo-classical figures so popular in the Third Reich - and that is as far as the implications of his beliefs go.

 

[Enmos]

I think he views nationalism as a kind of calisthenics for the soul. He does not think of it in a political way. It's like if you do sit ups and push ups and march you will learn to stand up straight. If you are nationalistic and patriotic your soul has good posture.

I'm not joking.

I think he sees the ideal man - not unlike certain sculptures with neo-classical figures so popular in the Third Reich - and that is as far as the implications of his beliefs go.

Yes.. I believe it is some form of fascism, perhaps a weak form.. I have a hard time believing he actually means it the way it comes out of his mouth.

 

[Simon Anders]

Yes.. I believe it is some form of fascism, perhaps a weak form.. I have a hard time believing he actually means it the way it comes out of his mouth.

Well, it is fascinating to actually encounter someone who has these beliefs. Obviously they have a strong hold over many people in the world. I never seem to encounter them in person however. I can't say I am upset about this, however.

 

[Enmos]

Well, it is fascinating to actually encounter someone who has these beliefs. Obviously they have a strong hold over many people in the world. I never seem to encounter them in person however. I can't say I am upset about this, however.

Perhaps he only speaks freely about this sort of stuff here.. and not in real life because he knows it will not be received all that well.

 

[Carcano]

Perhaps he only speaks freely about this sort of stuff here.. and not in real life because he knows it will not be received all that well.

I dont think Norsefire identifies with the Nazis. He regards the Jews as his semitic brothers.

 

[Enmos]

I dont think Norsefire identifies with the Nazis. He regards the Jews as his semitic brothers.

It was never my intention to imply that, I just meant that his ideas are fascist-like.

 

[Norsefire]

You're only saying that because you've been brainwashed by Syria. If your empty mind had been born in China, it would have been filled (shallowly) with Chinese ideologues.

All you have demonstrated here, is how shallow, gullible, and eager to follow someone else you are.

Oh look....the democracy lover......democracy is WEAK....get over it

We don't need silly beauracracy holding us back; we need EFFICIENCY.

I think he views nationalism as a kind of calisthenics for the soul. He does not think of it in a political way. It's like if you do sit ups and push ups and march you will learn to stand up straight. If you are nationalistic and patriotic your soul has good posture.
I'm not joking.
I think he sees the ideal man - not unlike certain sculptures with neo-classical figures so popular in the Third Reich - and that is as far as the implications of his beliefs go.

And what's wrong with that? Patriotism is a thing every man should have.

Yes.. I believe it is some form of fascism, perhaps a weak form.. I have a hard time believing he actually means it the way it comes out of his mouth.

What's wrong with fascism?

Well, it is fascinating to actually encounter someone who has these beliefs. Obviously they have a strong hold over many people in the world. I never seem to encounter them in person however. I can't say I am upset about this, however.

You mean, encounter a right winger?

I dont think Norsefire identifies with the Nazis. He regards the Jews as his semitic brothers.

I don't identify with Nazis at all, but I do have a huge respect and admiration of Hitler. I don't approve or support his ideals, but I do think he was a strong man

I was never my intention to imply that, I just said his ideas are fascist-like.

And?

Not everyone is a lib'ral!


Military schools would teach community, discipline, honor, and love of country; there are no cons.

 

[Simon Anders]

You mean, encounter a right winger?

There is a major difference between a right winger or the category and a fascist. A right winger would generally have similar ideals, but have a much great attraction to freedom. Right wingers can be complicated individuals. A fascist really cannot. Fascists want to live out via law and violence the end of pluralistic societies. Right wingers can merely hope to convince people via voting, statement of opinions, etc. There is so much that fascists loathe, I would have to pretend I was another, rather shallow person, not to have a constant battle on my hands. Right wingers I can get along with fine.

 

[Norsefire]

There is a major difference between a right winger or the category and a fascist. A right winger would generally have similar ideals, but have a much great attraction to freedom. Right wingers can be complicated individuals. A fascist really cannot. Fascists want to live out via law and violence the end of pluralistic societies. Right wingers can merely hope to convince people via voting, statement of opinions, etc. There is so much that fascists loathe, I would have to pretend I was another, rather shallow person, not to have a constant battle on my hands. Right wingers I can get along with fine.

I simply believe in efficiency; if you want progress, you need efficiency. Beauracracy is unnecessary and ultimately, it detracts from efficiency. What we need is rugged determination and unity of willpower; and then, anything is possible!

 

[Enmos]

And?

Not everyone is a lib'ral!


Military schools would teach community, discipline, honor, and love of country; there are no cons.

That in itself was just an observation.
However, you know I don't agree with you on said subjects.

 

[Norsefire]

That in itself was just an observation.
However, you know I don't agree with you on said subjects.

I don't understand why.

 

[Enmos]

I don't understand why.

And I don't understand why you hold your views either.
Hey.. ! The universe is still here..

 

[Simon Anders]

I simply believe in efficiency; if you want progress, you need efficiency. Beauracracy is unnecessary and ultimately, it detracts from efficiency. What we need is rugged determination and unity of willpower; and then, anything is possible!

Humans are not machines. I put a lower priority on efficiency than you do.

 

[Norsefire]

And I don't understand why you hold your views either.
Hey.. ! The universe is still here..

No, I don't understand why you disagree with me.

Humans are not machines. I put a lower priority on efficiency than you do.

It is precisely becomes Humans are Human that I put a high priority on efficiency; help those who need help, eradicate those who need to be removed, and progress.

 

[Enmos]

No, I don't understand why you disagree with me.

It's fine Norse.

 

[Norsefire]

It's fine Norse.

Why do you disagree with me?

The Dutch government has lied and spit on you; it's time for you to take your country back, kick out those who don't belong there, and lead it to victory!

 

[Enmos]

Why do you disagree with me?

The Dutch government has lied and spit on you; it's time for you to take your country back, kick out those who don't belong there, and lead it to victory!

Should the US kick you out ?

 

[Norsefire]

Should the US kick you out ?

I would understand if they did

 

[Simon Anders]

It is precisely becomes Humans are Human that I put a high priority on efficiency; help those who need help, eradicate those who need to be removed, and progress.

Yes, I understood. I do not prioritize efficiency so high. I think it is inhuman. I do not want to fit into the cookie cutter outline of a human that fascists admire.

 

[Enmos]

I would understand if they did

Well, that's something different.. you say they should kick you out.
And if you think that, why don't you leave out of free will ?