The little things I mentioned that is new science!

theorist-constant12345 said:
Clocks measure the movement of their own device, not time.
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Um, not quite, but a nice attempt at diversion regardless.
Clocks "mark out" or "delineate" time.
They do NOT do so for distance.

No they don't
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Actually they do.

it is relative to size and not speed.
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Utter crap.

Time in a void does not exist
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What?

what you have is more interference, relative to the observer in there own passing of time it relatively means nothing and is just gibberish.
Well, your sentence is gibberish.
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theorist-constant12345 said:
It is no misconception by me, look at the diagrams, consider the physical process, it is self explanatory.

Both light clocks on the earth and moon will show exactly 1 light second per second, both atomic clocks on the earth and moon will show a difference in the corresponding beats.

Example - Earth 10 beats of the atomic clock to 1 light second,
Moon 5 beats of the atomic clock to 1 light second.

Space ship and the laser 1 light second,

Your clock does not work.
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You are simply assuming the light clock behaves in a certain way and refusing to learn why it doesn't. The light clock and atomic clock completely agree with each other. Your loss for not learning why.
 
Two astronaut robots with an exact equal amount of energy to give a life expectancy of the robots of 100 years exact but in seconds.
Both robots are powered by a caesium atom,

Robot A is grounded, Robot B orbits the earth a few times and returns to robot A. Robot A has expected dies after exactly 100 years in seconds.

Robot B dies exactly 100 years and 0.0007 seconds later, time does change for the robots.
 
theorist-constant12345 said:
Two astronaut robots with an exact equal amount of energy to give a life expectancy of the robots of 100 years exact but in seconds.
Both robots are powered by a caesium atom, Robot A is grounded, Robot B orbits the earth a few times and returns to robot A. Robot A has expected dies after exactly 100 years in seconds. Robot B dies exactly 100 years and 0.0007 seconds later, time does change for the robots.
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What if one of the robots has a pet kitten? When do they die?
 
billvon said:
Sort of a boot camp for transparent atomic kittens, then. Sort of cruel if you ask me. They are already living with huge cesium robots.
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Well the bacteria lives with the giant ants, and the giant ants live with the giant kittens, and the kittens with the giant robots, but the bacteria ,ant,kittens and robots all look small under a bigger microscope.
 
theorist-constant12345 said:
Two astronaut robots with an exact equal amount of energy to give a life expectancy of the robots of 100 years exact but in seconds.
Both robots are powered by a caesium atom,

Robot A is grounded, Robot B orbits the earth a few times and returns to robot A. Robot A has expected dies after exactly 100 years in seconds.

Robot B dies exactly 100 years and 0.0007 seconds later, time does change for the robots.
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That suppose to say time does not change for the robots one just lives longer.
 
billvon said:
Are you arguing with the poster you quoted? (Can't really blame you; he often posts some bizarre stuff.)
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Bizarre does not make it not true though. I was saying the robots do not experience a time dilation, they experience time running at the same rate, but experience a longer length of life.
 
billvon said:
Sort of a boot camp for transparent atomic kittens, then. Sort of cruel if you ask me. They are already living with huge cesium robots.
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Which part is cruel? There's a cute video on youtube of a cat in a shark costume riding a Roomba. He seems to be enjoying himself.
 
theorist-constant12345 said:
Two astronaut robots with an exact equal amount of energy to give a life expectancy of the robots of 100 years exact but in seconds.
Both robots are powered by a caesium atom,

Robot A is grounded, Robot B orbits the earth a few times and returns to robot A. Robot A has expected dies after exactly 100 years in seconds.

Robot B dies exactly 100 years and 0.0007 seconds later, time does change for the robots.
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Both robots will die after exactly 100 years as measured by their own light clocks (or atomic clocks). However robot B will say that according to his light clock robot A died .0007 second before him.
 
Can we lock and trash this thread now, or must we wade through 47 pages of repetitious crap again?
 
AlexG said:
Can we lock and trash this thread now, or must we wade through 47 pages of repetitious crap again?
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As long as there is a "Fringe" sub-forum I think we have to either avoid this section or wade through crap....not that I'm a fan of this section but as long as it feeds into the "new posts" function I'll probably get sucked in from time to time and apparently so will you :)
 
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