The first experimental measurement of God; to a 2-decimal point accuracy

[George E Hammond]

Yes. These people have managed to take a more primitive (i.e, stupid) view of the Old Testament than Origen, who lived in about 200AD. In fact, biblical literalism is a comparatively late invention. For most of the church's history, until the c.§8th and 19th, it seems to have been fairly widely understood, at least among the theologians, that some of the older bible stories are allegorical.

[George Hammond MS physics]
Exchemist, I notice that you are the only other person on this thread who is actually a graduate scientist (MA chemistry). And moreover I find that you have some theological knowledge.
... Given that; I have a couple of simple questions for you.

1. How surprised are you that the world's first scientific proof of God has been discovered? Or put it this way; how surprised would you be if it has?

2. The Egyptians were very big on the "Afterlife". And so are the Christians. But betwixt Egypt and the Christians chronologically we have the Jewish Old Testament. The OT is very scant on life after death, only a sentences even mention an Afterlife in the OT !
... Why do you think that is? In case this question puzzles you, let me reveal my answer to the question. And my answer is this: Both the Egyptian religion and the modern Christian religion are what you might call "elite religions" formulated by elite societies (Egypt and Rome). On the other hand, the Old Testament was written by the Hebrews who had a long history of bondage, captivity, and servitude and never enjoyed military superiority in Old Testament times.
... Do you think that might be why the Egyptians and the Christians advanced tatheory of life after death, but the Hebrew Old Testament never did?

George

 

[origin]

Do you think that might be why the Egyptians and the Christians advanced tatheory of life after death, but the Hebrew Old Testament never did?

No. Many "nonelite" societies had religions that included an after life.

 

[exchemist]

[George Hammond MS physics]
Exchemist, I notice that you are the only other person on this thread who is actually a graduate scientist (MA chemistry). And moreover I find that you have some theological knowledge.
... Given that; I have a couple of simple questions for you.

1. How surprised are you that the world's first scientific proof of God has been discovered? Or put it this way; how surprised would you be if it has?

2. The Egyptians were very big on the "Afterlife". And so are the Christians. But betwixt Egypt and the Christians chronologically we have the Jewish Old Testament. The OT is very scant on life after death, only a sentences even mention an Afterlife in the OT !
... Why do you think that is? In case this question puzzles you, let me reveal my answer to the question. And my answer is this: Both the Egyptian religion and the modern Christian religion are what you might call "elite religions" formulated by elite societies (Egypt and Rome). On the other hand, the Old Testament was written by the Hebrews who had a long history of bondage, captivity, and servitude and never enjoyed military superiority in Old Testament times.
... Do you think that might be why the Egyptians and the Christians advanced tatheory of life after death, but the Hebrew Old Testament never did?

George

I don't see why "elites" would have anything to do with it. Christianity was after all persecuted by the Roman establishment for a very long time, so it got no help from "elites" at the start.

But I have read that one school of thought is that Christianity is the product of a kind of synthesis of Judaism with Greek philosophy. Certainly St Paul's epistles and St John's gospel seem to be building a very non-Jewish theological edifice on the earlier stories about Christ in the synoptic gospels.

 

[George E Hammond]

I don't see why "elites" would have anything to do with it. Christianity was after all persecuted by the Roman establishment for a very long time, so it got no help from "elites" at the start.

But I have read that one school of thought is that Christianity is the product of a kind of synthesis of Judaism with Greek philosophy. Certainly St Paul's epistles and St John's gospel seem to be building a very non-Jewish theological edifice on the earlier stories about Christ in the synoptic gospels.

[George E Hammond MS physics]
... In 312 A.D. Constantine painted Christian crosses on the shields of his army and won the Roman civil war at the battle of the Milvian bridge. Therefore in 313 A.D. he issued the "edict of Milan" legalizing Christianity.
He convoked the First Council of Nicaea in 325, which produced the Nicene Creed. The Church of the Holy Sepulchre was built on his orders at the site of Jesus' tomb and was the holiest place in all of Christendom.
... Hence under Constantine Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire, thus becoming officially the world's most "elite religion" !
... As for the Greeks, they believe that the "soul was immortal" although quite ethereal whatever it was. The Christians on the other hand believe in the "complete resurrection of the flesh" which the Greeks apparently couldn't conceive of scientifically.
... However in 2010 A.D. Hammond discovered and proved to a better than 1 in 3 certainty purely scientifically that the actual total flesh and blood human body is instantly resurrected to "eternal life" at the precise moment of human death. This is achieved by a modern quantum biology mechanism in the microtubules of the brain.
... To be noted here is that "eternal life so called" is actually a "time dilation" and NOT a time duration; a concept which seems to be slightly beyond the intellectual capacity of the average nonscientific person !

George

 

[exchemist]

[George E Hammond MS physics]
... In 312 A.D. Constantine painted Christian crosses on the shields of his army and won the Roman civil war at the battle of the Milvian bridge. Therefore in 313 A.D. he issued the "edict of Milan" legalizing Christianity.
He convoked the First Council of Nicaea in 325, which produced the Nicene Creed. The Church of the Holy Sepulchre was built on his orders at the site of Jesus' tomb and was the holiest place in all of Christendom.
... Hence under Constantine Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire, thus becoming officially the world's most "elite religion" !
... As for the Greeks, they believe that the "soul was immortal" although quite ethereal whatever it was. The Christians on the other hand believe in the "complete resurrection of the flesh" which the Greeks apparently couldn't conceive of scientifically.
... However in 2010 A.D. Hammond discovered and proved to a better than 1 in 3 certainty purely scientifically that the actual total flesh and blood human body is instantly resurrected to "eternal life" at the precise moment of human death. This is achieved by a modern quantum biology mechanism in the microtubules of the brain.
... To be noted here is that "eternal life so called" is actually a "time dilation" and NOT a time duration; a concept which seems to be slightly beyond the intellectual capacity of the average nonscientific person !

George

Christianity was 300yrs old by the time of Constantine, whereas its doctrines concerning the afterlife were largely in place from the start.

 

[George E Hammond]

Christianity was 300yrs old by the time of Constantine, whereas its doctrines concerning the afterlife were largely in place from the start.

[George E Hammond MS physics Cape Cod MA USA]
St. Augustine one of the most learned authorities

of late antiquity was an eyewitness and reported in 416 A.D. that the intelligentsia of Rome were "staggered" by the wildfire popularity of the belief. The Christian version is documented in I-Corinthians, Ch. 15 vs.35-58 where St. Paul says that man has a natural body and a spiritual body and at death assumes the spiritual body and goes to Heaven, This belief is a Canon of Christianity and professed by all denominations. The Moslem religion also professes Life After Death in the Koran

George

 

[Michael 345]

which seems to be slightly beyond the intellectual capacity of the average nonscientific person !

Glad lack of intellectual capacity coupled with my average nonscientific persona is keeping me from noting

To be noted here is that "eternal life so called" is actually a "time dilation" and NOT a time duration; a concept

such cow pat ramblings as above

As for soul, afterlife, along with the guff which goes with such
(you can choose Cuckoo or Bird Brain) ideas, both were invented to use for recruiting converts

Convince people they exist BUT their soul can only experience afterlife if they follow the god of whatever religion is currently flavour of the month

 

[George E Hammond]

Glad lack of intellectual capacity coupled with my average nonscientific persona is keeping me from noting

such cow pat ramblings as above

As for soul, afterlife, along with the guff which goes with suchView attachment 4627
(you can choose Cuckoo or Bird Brain) ideas, both were invented to use for recruiting converts

Convince people they exist BUT their soul can only experience afterlife if they follow the god of whatever religion is currently flavour of the month

[George E Hammond MS physics]
Sheeesh... A mindless stalker .... Knows nothing, sees nothing, says nothing. Why don't you go jump in a lake 345?

George

 

[Michael 345]

says nothing

So now YOU are replying to nothing

Way to go George

 

[George E Hammond]

So now YOU are replying to nothing

Way to go George

[George E Hammond MS physics]
like I said, go jump in a lake!

George

 

[Kristoffer]

Go away, George.

 

[Michael 345]

[George E Hammond MS physics]
like I said, go jump in a lake!

George

SIR SIR GEORGE IS PICKINGS ON ME AGAIN ;(

Called me a stalker when I am a devoted follower

Cue tears and heavy sobs

 

[George E Hammond]

Go away, George.

[George E Hammond MS physics]
One more off-topic, no content, heckling post smart Alec and I'll hit the "REPORT" button. This is a "moderated" forum, watch your step!

George

George

 

[George E Hammond]

Go away, George.

[George E Hammond MS physics]
... Okay okay, sorry for being curt, it has occurred to me that maybe just no one knows what kind of a question to ask Hammond about all this?
... So, I written down a bunch of obvious questions that any expert scientist would actually ask, if he had to, about the discovery of the world's first scientific proof of God as described by Hammond, and here they are – – –:

16 expert scientific questions to ask Hammond about
his discovery of the world's first scientific proof of God
(a.k.a. the SPOG)

1. How did psychologists using desktop computers
do all the experiments on the SPOG and what kind
of experiments were they?
2. Why didn't the experimenters discover the SPOG?
3. Are any of these experimenters famous in their own
right?
4. Who was the first experimenter to use a computer and
how was it used and what year was it?
5. How long did it take you as a physicist to research all
their experiments and what made you realize that
they had discovered the world's first scientific proof of
God? And they didn't realize it !!!
6. Did you try to tell the experimentalists about your
discovery of the hidden meaning of all their research,
and what was their reaction?
7. What do you mean by the "cubic cleavage" of the brain?
8. How does the cubic cleavage of the brain explain all that
experimental data?
9. What makes you think the ancient "gods" were actually
"personality types"?
10. Are Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Porky pig, and
Bugs Bunny the names of the "gods" in today's world?
11. What is the "eigenvector pyramid" in all of this experimental
data? How can a personality type be an "eigenvector" – –
even more basically: What is an eigenvector?
12. How does Einstein's theory of relativity get involved in all
this massive experimental research?
13. Is Einstein's theory actually the scientific explanation of God?
14. What dramatic and powerful effect does the existence of God actually have on humans?
15. If "dead brains can't dream" how can there be a "hallucinatory" existence after death?
16. If people live forever in heaven, does this mean that there are trillions of people populating the world in heaven?

So, pick your question and asked me, and if I think you're serious, sincere, dedicated, long-suffering, persecuted, deserving, meritorious, worthwhile, and an important member of society working towards the betterment of mankind with total disregard of danger and utter fearlessnessly working towards saving the world and the human race – – – then I will answer you !
George

 

[Michael 345]

Go away, George.

Please please Kristoffer be a

One more off-topic, no content, heckling post smart Alec

Also ask ALL the following questions

16 expert scientific questions to ask Hammond about
his discovery of the world's first scientific proof of God
(a.k.a. the SPOG)

1. How did psychologists using desktop computers
do all the experiments on the SPOG and what kind
of experiments were they?
2. Why didn't the experimenters discover the SPOG?
3. Are any of these experimenters famous in their own
right?
4. Who was the first experimenter to use a computer and
how was it used and what year was it?
5. How long did it take you as a physicist to research all
their experiments and what made you realize that
they had discovered the world's first scientific proof of
God? And they didn't realize it !!!
6. Did you try to tell the experimentalists about your
discovery of the hidden meaning of all their research,
and what was their reaction?
7. What do you mean by the "cubic cleavage" of the brain?
8. How does the cubic cleavage of the brain explain all that
experimental data?
9. What makes you think the ancient "gods" were actually
"personality types"?
10. Are Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Porky pig, and
Bugs Bunny the names of the "gods" in today's world?
11. What is the "eigenvector pyramid" in all of this experimental
data? How can a personality type be an "eigenvector" – –
even more basically: What is an eigenvector?
12. How does Einstein's theory of relativity get involved in all
this massive experimental research?
13. Is Einstein's theory actually the scientific explanation of God?
14. What dramatic and powerful effect does the existence of God actually have on humans?
15. If "dead brains can't dream" how can there be a "hallucinatory" existence after death?
16. If people live forever in heaven, does this mean that there are trillions of people populating the world in heaven?

you have been invited to ask. I know you are sincere

Good luck

Note that self reference to himself

it has occurred to me that maybe just no one knows what kind of a question to ask Hammond about all this?

and again

the discovery of the world's first scientific proof of God as described by Hammond,

 

[James R]

However in 2010 A.D. Hammond discovered and proved to a better than 1 in 3 certainty purely scientifically that the actual total flesh and blood human body is instantly resurrected to "eternal life" at the precise moment of human death.

Please post your proof.

 

[Michael 345]

Note that self reference to himself

Thought I would look up the idiosyncrasy

https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/the-psychology-of-referring-to-yourself-in-the-third-person

Called - illeism

Extract
*****

• .... tends to signal to the rest of us one of a number of personality quirks in the speaker, none of them good:
• A stunted intellect (“Sloth loves Chunk”);
• the presence of psychotic personality disorders (“Smeagol hates nasty Hobbitses”);
• rampant egoism (“Doctor Doom shall be master of Earth!”);
• or a journalist using horribly awkward turns of phrase that belong in the print era

*****
I took the liberty of putting them in point form

 

[George E Hammond]

George E Hammond said in post #244:
"However in 2010 A.D. Hammond discovered and proved to a better than 1 in 3 certainty purely scientifically that the actual total flesh and blood human body is instantly resurrected to "eternal life" at the precise moment of human death."

Please post your proof.

[George E Hammond MS physics]
Okay James R, how about cutting a deal with me? If you will transfer this thread to: forumHILOSOPHY – subforum:RELIGION, I will agree to post a full and complete "proof" of my above statement there !
... This thread is obviously "NOT pseudoscience", and transferring it to pseudoscience is a direct affront to the theory and to me personally. And should (and I indeed fully expect) that when this theory finally hits the streets your decision to transfer it to "pseudoscience" will prove to be a severe embarrassment to Sciforums.
... I am 80 years old and even more interested therefore in the possibility of life after death that you are. If you will transfer this thread to philosophy/religion I promise you on my word of honor to post there a full, and to the best of my knowledge today, a convincing scientific "proof" that there is a better than 1 chance in 3 that life after death actually exists!

George Hammond

 

[foghorn]

when this theory finally hits the streets your decision to transfer it to "pseudoscience" will prove to be a severe embarrassment to Sciforums.

Shocks!
A god needs your help James.
Do what George says JamesR, the WORLD depends on you making known this ''discovery''.

Can you shoulder the responsibility James?
Ps, there are powers working here greater than you can ever know.

 

[origin]

This thread is obviously "NOT pseudoscience", and transferring it to pseudoscience is a direct affront to the theory and to me personally. And should (and I indeed fully expect) that when this theory finally hits the streets your decision to transfer it to "pseudoscience" will prove to be a severe embarrassment to Sciforums.

Bet you are wrong.

I am 80 years old and even more interested therefore in the possibility of life after death that you are.

You can hope all you want.
You were asked to supply the proof you say you have, so what's the holdup. Oh yeah, you ain't got no proof.