The first experimental measurement of God; to a 2-decimal point accuracy

[Michael 345]

and as Hammond has pointed out to a still unsuspecting psychology community

I do not think they are unsuspecting that something has been pointed out

What? has been pointed out is the big question. Hammond has claimed the what as being .......... the world's first scientific proof of God

Unfortunately, cracked record response from me coming up, has not shown any workings hence no-one can check

 

[exchemist]

[George E Hammond MS physics Cape Cod MA USA]
Genesis is principally allegory, not myth.
... Meanwhile, I find it somehow ironic that the 2000 year Christian search for a "rational" explanation of God has finally arrived in the form of "desktop computers".
... As the target paper of this thread explains, it was the advent of the desktop computer that allowed a worldwide army of psychology researchers, to measure millions of people with Personality and IQ tests for 50 years which allowed Hammond to discover that this data clearly pointed to the "cubic cleavage of the brain" as the cause of personality structure and in fact indicated the 13 rotational symmetry axes of a cube in fact caused the famous "12-Olympian gods" (12- personalities) of antiquity – – which immediately led to the conclusion that the single eigenvector at the top of this eigenvector pyramid was without any doubt, the God of the Bible.
... Thus it was "desktop computers" which could finally diagonalize large correlation matrices, – and as Hammond has pointed out to a still unsuspecting psychology community: Has delivered the world's first scientific proof of God (SPOG).

George

Yes quite right, I chose my words clumsily. Allegory is right.

[Exchemist MA chemistry, Oxon]

 

[gmilam]

Yes quite right, I chose my words clumsily. Allegory is right.

I live in the Babble Belt. I know people who believe Genesis is historical fact.

 

[George E Hammond]

So God has a physical body? Where does God live? Can we go and see him? Is he a man or a woman? How did your "experiment" establish any of this?

This sounds completely nutso, in case you aren't already aware.

Did your study put you in mortal danger, George? Sorry to hear that. Was it a shark with a laser on its head, attacking you for your studies of psychology eigenvectors? I hear they can get a bit stroppy about that kind of thing.

[George E Hammond MS physics Cape Cod MA USA]
Hi James, I've been trying to reach you. Let me answer your questions first:

[James R asked: and George Hammond answered:]
"So God has a physical body? Yes, he has the body identical to ours, but a fully grown version.
Where does God live? He lives inside our body, particularly inside our brain.
Can we go and see him? He's living inside us night and day, constantly for life.
Is he a man or a woman? If you're a man, He's a man, if you're a woman, She's a woman.
How did your "experiment" establish any of this?" Don't be ridiculous, I've never done in the "experiments", the experiments were done by a a 1000 man army of psychology researchers in 50 years in 20 foreign countries measuring millions of people. I'm simply the theoretical physicist who discovered the "theoretical meaning of all the data" Einstein never measured the advance of the perihelion of Mercury, he was the one who theoretically explained it! Same difference with Hammond !

[George Hammond]
All of this is explained in the original target post #1 which you obviously have never read!
...In the meantime, I have another issue which a wish to discuss with you. I originally posted this thread in "FRINGE – alternative theories" and you later moved that to "pseudoscience". This paper is obviously NOT "pseudoscience". I implore you to please
move this thread to "GENERAL PHILOSOPHY – religion" where it obviously properly belongs.
...I have published a major portion of this theory in the peer reviewed academic literature in a prominent journal published by Elsevier Scientific, the world's largest scientific publisher – and they do not publish papers by "incompetent cranks"! The Paper is cited on my CV which is located here:
https://independent.academia.edu/GeorgeHammond/CurriculumVitae

Sincerely, George E Hammond MS physics Cape Cod MA USA

 

[Michael 345]

He lives inside our body, particularly inside our brain

Hard to reconcile a 7 foot + god living inside my body, yet alone my brain

If you're a man, He's a man, if you're a woman, She's a woman

And those of a flexible disposition?

Einstein never measured the advance of the perihelion of Mercury, he was the one who theoretically explained it! Same difference with Hammond !

Correct

BUT BUT BUT others took Einstein's measurements and confirmed Mercury's perihelion

Are you then expecting your

experiments ...... done by a a 1000 man army of psychology researchers in 50 years in 20 foreign countries measuring millions of people

to be checked????? By whom may I ask?

Good luck with that happening

Elsevier Scientific, the world's largest scientific publisher

A dodgy publisher which places other people's copyright material, which has been made freely available, behind paywalls

 

[George E Hammond]

"Michael 345, post: 3692345, member: 285342
[Michael 345 said:]
"]Hard to reconcile a 7 foot + god living inside my body, yet alone my brain
[Hammond answered:]
Are you kidding, I've got a picture of the Eiffel tower in my wallet, are you saying that's impossible because the Eiffel tower is 1000 feet tall? Quit playing kid games!
[Michael 345 said:]
And those of a flexible disposition?
[Hammond answered:]
Look, the God of a frog looks like a frog, the God of a horse looks like a horse, the God of a man looks like a man, God of a woman looks like a woman. What don't you understand?
[Michael 345 said:]
Correct
BUT BUT BUT others took Einstein's measurements and confirmed Mercury's perihelion Are you then expecting your to be checked????? By whom may I ask?
Good luck with that happening
[Hammond answered:]
Look, you've got it backwards! The history went this way: LEVERRIER discovered and measured the advance of the perihelion of Mercury 100 years before Einstein was born!! No one could explain it, until Einstein discovered the theory of relativity, which immediately explained it. Quit misquoting history!
[Michael 345 said:]
(Elsevier Scientific is) A dodgy publisher which places other people's copyright material, which has been made freely available, behind paywalls
[Hammond answered:]
theY Are are the world's LARGEST scientific publisher, and they will charge you $75 to read a copy of my paper which they published, and therefore I put a "freebie research only copy" of my paper on my website which you can read for nothing – – but as you have a reputation for reading nothing before you criticize it, what difference does that make?

George

 

[George E Hammond]

I live in the Babble Belt. I know people who believe Genesis is historical fact.

[ George E Hammond MS physics Cape Cod MA USA]
The allegorical facts of Genesis as reported in the Bible are absolutely factually true!
As a matter of fact the entire Bible in that sense is absolutely factually correct!

GH

 

[Michael 345]

Are you kidding, I've got a picture of the Eiffel tower in my wallet, are you saying that's impossible because the Eiffel tower is 1000 feet tall?

I have a photo of my head in my wallet. The photo of my head is not alive, the photo is on my Driver's Licence

Your contention is he LIVES

He lives

misquoting history

I plead guilty and will try to not repeat

theY Are are the world's LARGEST scientific publisher, and they will charge you $75

OK so? If YOU are OK with that so be it

Others are not and have their copyright material be removed from being behind a paywall

but as you have a reputation for reading nothing before you criticize it, what difference does that make

But I DID read your paper, AND criticised it. Are you still unhappy I didn't read it earlier, and based earlier criticism on past experience with these types of claims you are making and the small sample I read which you had posted?

 

[George E Hammond]

I have a photo of my head in my wallet. The photo of my head is not alive, the photo is on my Driver's Licence
Your contention is he LIVES

[George E Hammond MS physics Cape Cod MA USA]
Every cell of the body including the neurons of the brain contain microtubules. They are all connected together via gap junctions and other means. The microtubules in the brain are stable for life because that is where "memory" is stored.
... While the "phenotype" of the body is on a worldwide average about 15% short of full growth, the body is aware of this "GCD" (growth curve deficit) because the body contains a complete map of the "genotype" which is the map of the fully grown body.
... The mental awareness of this fully grown body lives in the microtubules of the brain and is known historically as the "unconscious mind", and even more historically as the phenomenon known as "God".
... This subconscious awareness of our fully grown body LIVES in the microtubule system, and its lifetime memories are recorded there and are used to synthesize a totally realistic "life after death" hallucinatory state utilizing the full grown (a.k.a. glorified) body which takes place at the moment of death.
...Write4u knows about this, from me, and has posted over 100 pages of discussion about microtubules because he is suspicious, and rightly so, that microtubules are a big time historical discovery! And I agree with him completely! He's just not aware that they are about to have a historical impact on world religion.

George


George

 

[Michael 345]

[George E Hammond MS physics Cape Cod MA USA]
Every cell of the body including the neurons of the brain contain microtubules. They are all connected together via gap junctions and other means. The microtubules in the brain are stable for life because that is where "memory" is stored.
... While the "phenotype" of the body is on a worldwide average about 15% short of full growth, the body is aware of this "GCD" (growth curve deficit) because the body contains a complete map of the "genotype" which is the map of the fully grown body.
... The mental awareness of this fully grown body lives in the microtubules of the brain and is known historically as the "unconscious mind", and even more historically as the phenomenon known as "God".
... This subconscious awareness of our fully grown body LIVES in the microtubule system, and its lifetime memories are recorded there and are used to synthesize a totally realistic "life after death" hallucinatory state utilizing the full grown (a.k.a. glorified) body which takes place at the moment of death.
...Write4u knows about this, from me, and has posted over 100 pages of discussion about microtubules because he is suspicious, and rightly so, that microtubules are a big time historical discovery! And I agree with him completely! He's just not aware that they are about to have a historical impact on world religion.

George


George

Blah blah blah blah and more blah blah

You now claim YOUR definition of LIVES is a microtubule memory?

Even that does not wash with me

All together now on the count of
3
1 Mississippi
2 Mississippi an a 3 Mississippi
you have not produced any evidence a microtubule memory exist



My apologies to other members for inadvertently bringing back the M tubes

 

[Write4U]

...Write4u knows about this, from me, and has posted over 100 pages of discussion about microtubules because he is suspicious, and rightly so, that microtubules are a big time historical discovery! And I agree with him completely! He's just not aware that they are about to have a historical impact on world religion.

For the record.
I learned about microtubules by reading Hameroff, in relation to anesthesia and the connection of microtubule catastrophe to Alzheimer's Disease years before I heard the name George E. Hammond and his theory.
We have discussed this recently on another forum and I recommended he check out my thread on microtubules here on Sciforums.
He is correct that I am unaware of any connection between microtubules and God and I prefer to listen to this conversation from a different perspective, i.e. microtubules and related filaments are common denominators and critically involved in the evolved emergence of "consciousness" in living Eukaryotic organisms. How this relates to a cosmic consciousness is way beyond my scope of inquiry.

 

[Write4U]

you have not produced any evidence a microtubule memory exist

I have, albeit only in relation to life on earth.

 

[Michael 345]

My apologies to other members for inadvertently bringing back the M tubes

Note to Write4U

You are on my Iggy list meaning whatever you post is invisible to me

I do see in a thin light grey oblong box with the words

You are ignoring content by this member. Show Ignored Content

Never been tempted to press the thin light grey oblong box with the words Show Ignored Content

 

[George E Hammond]

For the record.
I learned about microtubules by reading Hameroff, in relation to anesthesia and the connection of microtubule catastrophe to Alzheimer's Disease years before I heard the name George E. Hammond and his theory.
We have discussed this recently on another forum and I recommended he check out my thread on microtubules here on Sciforums.
He is correct that I am unaware of any connection between microtubules and God and I prefer to listen to this conversation from a different perspective, i.e. microtubules and related filaments are common denominators and critically involved in the evolved emergence of "consciousness" in living Eukaryotic organisms. How this relates to a cosmic consciousness is way beyond my scope of inquiry.

[George E Hammond MS physics Cape Cod MA USA]
... Hi Write4u, glad to see you! You've been reading Hameroff for years, but I prefer to talk to him directly, especially in connection with my theory of microtubules enabling the phenomenon of "life after death" so called.
... I asked Stuart Hameroff about this possibility in an email, and I received back almost immediately this email from Stuart himself:

Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 09:43:23 -0700
From: Stuart Hameroff, U. ArizonaSubject:
Re: (fwd) A Scientifically Competent Religious Question for Stuart Hameroff

To: George Hammond
Cc: Frank Tipler, Tulane U.

Dear George Hammond:
I believe downloading and Afterlife are possible.

Stuart Hameroff

[George Hammond]
... Okay that's the word from Stuart Hameroff himself, the world's leading authority on microtubules. And he says that YES he believes that an Afterlife could be downloaded through the microtubules (at the speed of light) and thus beating by sheer speed any form of death whatsoever, including an atomic bomb blast.

Okay, so the "dickhids", as one poster put it, on this forum who have been heckling me about microtubules causing life after death can now see the world's leading authority on microtubules, has actually put in print a statement to me by email that YES, he thinks it's actually possible! And notice, that he sent a carbon copy of the email to Frank Tipler another world famous physicist!

George

 

[Michael 345]

George

And the above Post Number 234 was posted to me- why?

 

[Write4U]

You are ignoring content by this member. Show Ignored Content

Never been tempted to press the thin light grey oblong box with the words Show Ignored Content

I don't have you on"ignore". I ignore to consider what you have to say which is of no interest to me.

 

[George E Hammond]

And the above Post Number 234 was posted to me- why?

[George E Hammond MS physics Cape Cod MA USA]
...Duh? Are you talking to me? My post #234 was a reply to Write4u's #231. So I know what you're talking about?
George

 

[Michael 345]

[George E Hammond MS physics Cape Cod MA USA]
...Duh? Are you talking to me? My post #234 was a reply to Write4u's #231. So I know what you're talking about?
George

Your post Number 234 should have Write4u's Post Number 231 above it then in your feed

Does it?

This appears in my feed

[George E Hammond MS physics Cape Cod MA USA]
... Hi Write4u, glad to see you! You've been

and the "Hi Write4u" certainty appears it is / was meant for Write4u

 

[Write4U]

... Okay that's the word from Stuart Hameroff himself, the world's leading authority on microtubules. And he says that YES he believes that an Afterlife could be downloaded through the microtubules (at the speed of light) and thus beating by sheer speed any form of death whatsoever, including an atomic bomb blast.

OK, that sounds impressive, but it isn't my area of inquiry.
You see, I do not believe that microtubules have capacity for compound memories and in the human brain must be arranged in specialized neurons named "pyramidal neurons" that have arrays of microtubules in specific patterns that apparently allows for data storage. How such physical arrays could exist in space is a total mystery to me and frankly is outside my scope of investigation.

Pyramidal neurons, also known as pyramidal cells, are neurons with a pyramidal shaped cell body (soma) and two distinct dendritic trees. ... They are the most numerous excitatory cell type in mammalian cortical structures, suggesting that they play important roles in advanced cognitive functions.Feb 7, 2013

Pyramidal neurons have been observed in birds, fish, reptiles, and all mammals studied. They are found in forebrain structures such as the cerebral cortex, hippocampus, and amygdala, but not in the olfactory bulbs, striatum, midbrain, hindbrain, or spinal cord. They are the most numerous excitatory cell type in mammalian cortical structures, suggesting that they play important roles in advanced cognitive functions. http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/Pyramidal_neuron#

 

[exchemist]

I live in the Babble Belt. I know people who believe Genesis is historical fact.

Yes. These people have managed to take a more primitive (i.e, stupid) view of the Old Testament than Origen, who lived in about 200AD. In fact, biblical literalism is a comparatively late invention. For most of the church's history, until the c.§8th and 19th, it seems to have been fairly widely understood, at least among the theologians, that some of the older bible stories are allegorical.