The Epstein files

Pizzagate, Q, et al were essentially projection, right down to most all of the particulars, excepting perhaps the drinking of human blood bits.
I hate to mention the possibility, but I'm not so convinced about that last "bit" being excepted. Think about who we're talking about here - the ultimate in self-centered, entitled, rich and powerful - as you mentioned.

Many of them aging, and immortality is a very powerful lure...

This is, admittedly, from AI - but it was the easiest way to convey my point - I think you'll understand what I'm getting at (pay special attention to the "Modern Reinterpretation"):

The legend of drinking blood for immortality stems from ancient beliefs that young blood could rejuvenate aging bodies, spanning from Greek myths and Chinese alchemy to medieval European tales. Historically, this morphed from symbolic "vampirism" to reported (though likely exaggerated) instances, such as Elizabeth Báthory or Pope Innocent VIII.

Key Historical Themes and Legends:
Ancient Roots: Greek, Chinese, and later European cultures believed young blood held life-extending properties. Chinese alchemist Xu Fu, in the 3rd century BC, took thousands of young people on a quest for the elixir of life.

Elizabeth Báthory (16th Century): The most famous legend tells of this Hungarian countess murdering young girls to bathe in their blood to preserve her youth.
Pope Innocent VIII (1492): Historical accounts suggest the ailing Pope drank the blood of young boys in a futile attempt to regain health.

Scientific Parallels: This myth is based on the idea of parabiosis, a phenomenon where young blood can revitalize old cells.

Modern Reinterpretation:
In the 2010s, this legend saw a resurgence in Silicon Valley, where some startups experimented with transfusing plasma from young, healthy donors into older adults to combat aging, although this has been flagged as unsafe and ineffective by the FDA.

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So - who knows? Would you really put it past these people?

There is no evidence (at present) to support it, but I have to say I wouldn't be truly shocked to discover there is a grain of truth, even in that unthinkable last "bit" of projection...
 
I hate to mention the possibility, but I'm not so convinced about that last "bit" being excepted. Think about who we're talking about here - the ultimate in self-centered, entitled, rich and powerful - as you mentioned.

Many of them aging, and immortality is a very powerful lure...

This is, admittedly, from AI - but it was the easiest way to convey my point - I think you'll understand what I'm getting at (pay special attention to the "Modern Reinterpretation"):

The legend of drinking blood for immortality stems from ancient beliefs that young blood could rejuvenate aging bodies, spanning from Greek myths and Chinese alchemy to medieval European tales. Historically, this morphed from symbolic "vampirism" to reported (though likely exaggerated) instances, such as Elizabeth Báthory or Pope Innocent VIII.

Key Historical Themes and Legends:
Ancient Roots: Greek, Chinese, and later European cultures believed young blood held life-extending properties. Chinese alchemist Xu Fu, in the 3rd century BC, took thousands of young people on a quest for the elixir of life.

Elizabeth Báthory (16th Century): The most famous legend tells of this Hungarian countess murdering young girls to bathe in their blood to preserve her youth.
Pope Innocent VIII (1492): Historical accounts suggest the ailing Pope drank the blood of young boys in a futile attempt to regain health.

Scientific Parallels: This myth is based on the idea of parabiosis, a phenomenon where young blood can revitalize old cells.

Modern Reinterpretation:
In the 2010s, this legend saw a resurgence in Silicon Valley, where some startups experimented with transfusing plasma from young, healthy donors into older adults to combat aging, although this has been flagged as unsafe and ineffective by the FDA.

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So - who knows? Would you really put it past these people?

There is no evidence (at present) to support it, but I have to say I wouldn't be truly shocked to discover there is a grain of truth, even in that unthinkable last "bit" of projection...
There was an interesting documentary (by Ian Rankin) on the Jekyll and Hyde story which was seemingly based on the semi industrial use of fresh cadavers to advance medical science in London at that time.

We are all complicit and the wealthy elite as ,of course willing "first adopters" in their secret shadows.

Weren't Xi and Putin overheard discussing such a technology quite recently?
 
Blue Through

Just remember, these are law enforcers.

Just five days after Jeffrey Epstein's arrest in the summer of 2019, federal authorities "directed" the New York Police Department to "stand down" its investigations related to Epstein, new documents released by the Department of Justice show. The directive applied to NYPD's Special Victims Unit — the group specially trained and equipped to handle sex crimes and child abuse cases. At the time, the Manhattan District Attorney's Office (DANY) had an ongoing investigation involving Epstein's victims, the documents reveal, but the FBI assumed that would come to a halt as well following the Bureau's directive.

These revelations are just part of the chronology below, which spans 1996-2025. The timeline amounts to the most comprehensive record to date of the publicly available information on New York law enforcement authorities' action and inaction with regard to Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell and other potential co-conspirators. It is a long record of institutional failures though with some successes (including DANY's more recent pursuits with at least one of the alleged co-conspirators). The timeline is provided for public education, especially given that New York was an epicenter of Epstein's vast criminal conspiracy.

Notably, last week, the Office of New Mexico Attorney General Raúl Torrez also revealed that his state's "investigation was closed in 2019 at the request of the U.S Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York." The revelation came alongside Attorney General Raúl Torrez ordering the criminal investigation to now be "reopened."


(Goodman↱)

There is a lot that can go here, but this goes beyond the usual question of the blue wall. And, comparatively, it seems a stretch to try to recall a sheriff, here or there, pretending to refuse to enforce the law because Obama was president. What we're talking about here is law enforcers uttering unusual directives and other law enforcers obeying. That is to say, we're talking about a large number of significant law enforcers giving aid and comfort to sex crime, helping aid and abet organized crime. They didn't have to be muscled into it; there isn't a trail of tearstrewn leo whistleblowers demanding justice for victims, or that their corrupt bosses be held accountable.

It's hard to tell, from these records, just what was going on at DANY over the period, but even into January, 2020, FBI continued to watch and wonder about local law enforcement: "some phone calls were made amongst NYPD brass and I'm pretty sure there investigation was closed and differed to us", "I'm hoping they are continuing to differ this case to us but we may not know without making a few inquiries."

Honestly, I think we deserve to know the names of law enforcers who cannot spell the word, "defer". Of course, that's probably not the first priority, here.
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Notes:

Goodman, Ryan. "FBI's 'Stand Down' Directive to NYPD on Jeffrey Epstein Investigations, and More". Just Security. 23 February 2026. JustSecurity.org. 23 February 2026. https://www.justsecurity.org/132230/fbi-stand-down-directive-epstein-timeline/
 
What It Takes

If you want to know what it takes to hide a sex trafficking operation, the New York Times offers a glimpse into what the Epstein files tell about the doctors who did their part:

A plastic surgeon from Mount Sinai closed a young woman's head wound with 35 stitches on Jeffrey Epstein's dining room table.

An internist in West Palm Beach ordered a blood test for another woman, then reported the abnormal results back to Mr. Epstein.

A dentist at Columbia University asked Mr. Epstein how much work he wanted done on a "girl" with severe tooth decay.

These providers were part of a small stable of loyal medical specialists cultivated and rewarded by Mr. Epstein, the convicted sex offender and financier who died in a jail cell in 2019. He often tapped their expertise for his own ailments, firing off questions about his bad back, high cholesterol and erectile dysfunction drugs. Sometimes, he connected them with his powerful friends in business and politics, even arranging one lawyer's mammogram.

But Mr. Epstein also used the doctors to manipulate young women from overseas who were having sex with him, according to a tranche of Epstein-related documents released by the government in January ....

.... It's unsurprising that someone with Mr. Epstein's wealth and elite connections would receive white-glove service from concierge doctors and V.I.P. treatment at major hospitals. But the new documents reveal how some of his doctors bent or broke the ethical rules of their profession.

One sent Mr. Epstein's sexual partners elsewhere for gonorrhea treatment so that when their cases were reported to public health authorities, they wouldn't be tied to Mr. Epstein. Some doctors also shared patients' private health information with him, disclosures that at least one woman was unhappy about.

"All the doctors you pay directly keep you well informed about my 'treatments,'" the woman wrote to Mr. Epstein. She did not want the same to happen with a "shrink" she was planning to see.

Mr. Epstein dismissed her concerns. The doctors, he told her, "take the time to make sure im happy."

NYT reviewed fifteen thousand documents from 2009-19, that is, after Epstein's conviction, finding "interactions with more than a dozen doctors".

It's an especially grim outlook for the prestigious Dr. Eva Dubin, of the Dubin Breast Center at Mt. Sinai hospital in New York. In 2012, Epstein told a woman to "go to the gyno" before having sex with another man; "In a subsequent message, he said Dr. Dubin would coordinate the referral: 'Eva will organize pussy doctor.'" Dubin also arranged a volunteer position for the woman; "I told them she will only sit there and look pretty", Dubin advised Epstein.

Sometime after that, Epstein called Dubin for help with a Russian student who fell off an ATV on the island; Dubin arranged for Dr. Jess Ting to stitch her up on a dining room table at Epstein's home in New York.

A medical ethicist, Dr. Margaret Moon, of Johns Hopkins University, suggested the table job was "a choice made not in the patient's best interest", and "very difficult to justify". Dr. Ting managed to get a fifty thousand dollar donation from Epstein for research, and, "Soon after, Dr. Ting, his girlfriend and her children visited Mr. Epstein's island."

These days, Ting denies knowledge or witness of "any illegal or potentially illegal activities", says Epstein "represents the very worst of human nature", and explained, "I deeply regret having had any association with him." To the other, Ting also tried to deny his participation, and then "declined to comment on the new version of the photo posted on the government's website that appears to show him".

In Florida, Dr. Bruce Moskowitz, the "internist to the world's wealthy", treated STDs in Epstein's circles, but also sought to protect Epstein; observing reporting laws, he once advised Epstein to send two women to an emergency room, "That way I do not have to report the cases to health department including contacts". Moskowitz seems to have remained faithful to Epstein throughout.

Again and again in the new trove of documents, Mr. Epstein inserts himself into the medical decisions of young women. It's unclear whether they gave him permission to do so. Under federal law, doctors are not allowed to disclose private medical information to third parties without a patient's consent.

When asked by The Times about some of the situations described in the emails, one expert questioned whether the women would have been able to give legal consent, given Mr. Epstein's power over them.

"They're being forced to have this treatment by a doctor not of their choice," said Barry R. Furrow, the director of the Health Law Program at Drexel University. "I don't think you can even talk about consent in this."

The doctors often acted as if Mr. Epstein, rather than the women, was their primary concern.

Dr. Thomas Mangani, fired recently for his place in the Epstein files, having "helped Mr. Epstein's girlfriend bypass the normal process to be admitted to the dental school", once asked Epstein how much work he wanted done on a girl.

One doctor, who ran a members-only emergency room, simply listed Epstein's five girls as "assistants 1-5 without using names".

And there is also the dermatologist, Dr. Steven Victor, who complained to Epstein in 2009 about money, and reminded that he had been loyal in not talking to the press. "I have lived up to my bargain as I promised", Victor wrote. "You can NOT just send friends and expect me to bear the costs." Epstein responded by reminding debt and suggesting that talking to reporters "would be 'something that i would have never forgiven'". In a phone interview from Dubai, Dr. Victor remained loyal to Epstein. "Most of them were young, but of age," he told NYT. "Nobody complained. Everybody was happy."
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Notes:

Farenthold, David A., Azeen Ghorayshi, and Maggie Astor. "Elite Doctors Served Jeffrey Epstein While Treating His 'Girls'". The New York Times. 28 February 2026. NYTimes.com. 28 February 2026. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/28/us/jeffrey-epstein-doctors.html

 
Is it possible to run the 3-6 million pages of the Epstein files through an AI program in such a way that one can put questions to the living and the dead characters within to get a first approximation of how they viewed their role within what is effectively a very long novel?

Of course the "answers" are just a pointer and would have to be followed up with targeted research by real people


It might also be a way of maintaining public interest in the content and put pressure on all the characters to give their version of events (under oath in Trump's case)

Maybe some people are capable of digesting the information in that huge amount of files -I am not.
 
Dershowitz on Massage & Minors

Art Candee↱ summarizes:

Alan Dershowitz, Donald's buddy and one of the two attorneys for Jeffrey Epstein, signing off on this 2007 letter to the U.S. Attorney's Office in the Southern District of Florida:

"We are, of course, mindful of the fact that, unbeknownst to Mr. Epstein, some of the women were in fact not yet 18...Nor does that statute make it a crime to touch the breasts or other private areas of someone between 16 and 18....only a small minority of massages resulted in what may possibly be characterized as sexual activity with a woman under the age of 18."

We should make the point that they chose the law specifically pertaining to persons less than sixteen years of age. That is to say, they cite 800.04↱, "Lewd or lascivious offenses committed upon or in the presence of persons less than 16 years of age", as "laws regulating sexual activity", without regard to 798.02↱, "Lewd and lascivious behavior", or 794.011↱, "Sexual battery".

But, remember, Dershowitz himself, at least, kept his underwear on. It's unclear whether, or to what degree, he was also protecting himself in 2007.

 
Former U.S. Attorney Exposed as Epstein's Power of Attorney at Zorro Ranch

Alisa Valdes-Rodriguez↱ reports one of the most extraordinary grotesqueries yet discovered in the horror story that is Jeffrey Epstein:

In March 1993, Jeffrey Epstein needed someone to close the deal on his purchase of Zorro Ranch, a 7,600-acre property he bought from then-sitting Governor Bruce King.

Epstein chose a prominent Albuquerque attorney named John J. Kelly, then partner-in-charge of the Albuquerque office of Hinkle, Cox, Eaton, Coffield & Hensley.

Documents in the federal Epstein files show that Kelly — who would be appointed the United States Attorney for the District of New Mexico by Bill Clinton nine months later — signed documents on Epstein's behalf as his personal Power of Attorney for the purchase of Zorro Ranch and its state land leases.

On March 3, 1993, Epstein executed a Limited Power of Attorney appointing Kelly as his attorney-in-fact for the closing of the ranch purchase, including all state and federal leases on the property. The document is recorded in Santa Fe County and appears in the federal Epstein files ....

.... on March 15, 1993, a letter on the letterhead of Hinkle, Cox, Eaton, Coffield & Hensley — Kelly's own law firm — was sent to the New Mexico State Land Office confirming that Kelly had signed the leases as Epstein's attorney-in-fact. In the eyes of the state of New Mexico, Kelly was Epstein.

Nine months later, Kelly was appointed United States Attorney for the District of New Mexico — the chief federal law enforcement officer in the state, the man with jurisdiction over Zorro Ranch and everything that happened there.

He held that office for seven years.

In 1996, Annie Farmer, then 16 years old, reported to the FBI that she had been sexually abused at Zorro Ranch by Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. According to reporting by the New York Times and the Guardian, the report, which protocol would require to be forwarded to Kelly's offices, was never investigated.

No federal investigation of Zorro Ranch was ever opened during Kelly's tenure.

This revelation has been brewing; in 2024, a local reporter asked Kelly why he was in Epstein's, "He told the station he had met Epstein exactly once, at a meeting arranged by Governor Bruce King, at which Epstein expressed interest in buying land." Valdes-Rodriguez explains: "Asked why his name was in Epstein's personal diary, Kelly said, 'I have no clue. You'll have to ask Mr. Epstein.'" Of course, Epstein was already several years dead, at that point, and now we learn that he lied to the local reporter. "The black book, meanwhile, not only has Kelly's professional contact information. It has his home address and phone number, and his wife's phone number."

Here's another, for you: "At the time Kelly made his statement to KOAT, he was serving as president of the City of Albuquerque's ethics board."
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Notes:

Valdes-Rodriguez, Alisa. "Breaking News Exclusive: The U.S. Attorney Who Should Have Investigated Jeffrey Epstein for Sexually Abusing 16-Year-Old Annie Farmer in 1996 in New Mexico Was Epstein's Personal POA for Zorro Ranch." Alisa Writes. 10 April 2026. AlisaV.Substack.com. 11 April 2026. https://alisav.substack.com/p/breaking-news-exclusive-the-us-attorney
 
In 1996, Annie Farmer, then 16 years old, reported to the FBI that she had been sexually abused at Zorro Ranch by Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. According to reporting by the New York Times and the Guardian, the report, which protocol would require to be forwarded to Kelly's offices, was never investigated.
Threads of plutocracy and its innate corruption grow like a vast mycelial network through America. I sometimes wonder what can be done, but shining a spotlight on it is a good start.

(The legal firm was originally Eaton Cox, but that didn't sound so good, so more partners had to be added to the letterhead)
 
Epstein Beneficiary Dead by Suicide in Oslo

Jacob Shamsian↱ explains:

The son of Terje Rød-Larsen, the Jeffrey Epstein friend and former Norwegian diplomat under scrutiny, killed himself last night.

In a public statement, Roed-Larsen's law firm criticized the attention brought by the Epstein scandal.

He follows up that post by noting↱, "They sent me this statement in Norwegian btw and told me to use Google Translate, so this is from the Google-translated text."

A searchlight without mercy

In recent months, Terje Rød-Larsen and Mona Juul have been the subject of massive public attention. Everything they have done, said, and stood for throughout a long life in the service of diplomacy and politics has been scrutinized, interpreted and often portrayed in a light that seeks not understanding but suspicion.

It is legitimate to ask critical questions of power. It is necessary in a democracy. But there is a point where criticism slips into character assassination, where curiosity turns into speculation, and where the public's right to insight is taken as a means of something far more problematic: a collective lack of empathy.

When people's life's work is reduced to headlines and innuendo, when nuance disappears and everything is read in the worst possible light, then we are no longer dealing with control. This is a form of public punishment, without legal certainty and without limits.

The children ― the invisible victims

At the center of this spotlight have been children.

Children who have not asked for attention.

Children who have not had control over documents, archives, or stories that are retold in media around the world.

Yet they have been affected.

In public, we often talk about "relatives" as a term. But that term does not cover reality. Because when the media turns its attention to parents, they simultaneously turn their backs on the children, those who have to live with the consequences without having chosen the exposure.

This son was mentioned in the media, both with and without his name, for matters that emerged in the so-called Epstein documents.

Circumstances that were beyond his control.

Circumstances that date back to a time when he was a minor.

It is difficult to find the words to describe the seriousness of this. Once a person becomes the subject of public discussion in such a context, there is no real opportunity to "respond", to clean up or clarify. The stigma sticks anyway. Because the iternet does not forget, and suspicion takes on a life of its own.

The New York Post reports the detail:

The son of two senior Norwegian diplomats under investigation over their ties to Jeffrey Epstein has died by suicide — after files revealed his parents took him to the pedophile's island when he was just 10 years old.

Edward Juul Rød-Larsen, 25, who had been bequeathed $5 million by the disgraced financier, was found dead in Oslo on Wednesday, the Norwegian newspaper Verdens Gang reported Thursday.

His parents, Mona Juul and Terje Rød-Larsen, are both under investigation by Norwegian authorities after their alleged links to Epstein were uncovered in the files released by the Department of Justice.

His parents, Mona Juul and Terje Rød-Larsen, are both under investigation by Norwegian authorities after their alleged links to Epstein. Courtesy of Ross Catanzarite

In a statement released by the couple's lawyers, they blamed the speculation about their financial ties to the dead pedophile as a contributing factor in their son's suicide ....

.... Juul was forced to resign as Norway's ambassador to Jordan and Iraq in February as a result of the scandal, while her husband, a former president of the International Peace Institute, is also accused of gross corruption.

Rød-Larsen was pictured in the Epstein files holding up his phone, showing a social media page of a woman in a bikini.

The couple appears to have visited Epstein's private island, Little Saint James, with their children in 2011, when Edward and his twin sister would have been around 10.

Rød-Larsen later thanked Epstein for the invite, describing the island as "totally unique," adding, "We all loved it!"
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Notes:

Blair, Anthony. "Son of Norwegian diplomats, who got $5M from Epstein, dies by suicide". New York Post. 30 April 2026. NYPost.com. 30 April 2026. https://nypost.com/2026/04/30/world...mats-who-got-5m-from-epstein-dies-by-suicide/

 
I am surprised at how successfully the lid has been kept tight and how successful the distracting and downplaying has been working. I am not seeing much fiercely relentless journalism that is trying hard to bring the truth to light.

Are the people who do have access ALL compromised? Yes, the crucial Agencies have been purged and leadership handed to cronies but I would expect some leaking, if only for fame, money, spite. It is hard to tell how much critical data is permanently lost... outside the memories and testimony of victims and witnesses.

And that is another surprise to me - how successfully the first hand accounts have been sidelined. Which seems an obvious start for investigative journalists.
 
Howard Lutnick has been allowed, by GOP legislators, to refuse to testify under oath about his relationship with Epstein and instead allowing him to be questioned in an informal transcribed interview. No video. No deposition. Just the ability to lie without being held accountable. This facade was coordinated between the GOP members of the House Oversight Committee, headed by James Comer, with Mike Johnson, and with Trump's administration and DoJ.
It is being reported that he has effectively lost his memory about some things he has previously claimed, and changed his story about other matters, lying repeatedly, with Dems hearing the "interview" calling him a pathological liar.

So, yeah, more coverups, while the GOP will undoubtedly claim this as them demonstrating transparency. :rolleyes:
 
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