Temporary banning of Lord Hillyer and Prince_James

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The jig is up. Thanks to the genetics revolution we now know that there is no such thing as race. The Human Genome Project (HGP) has determined unequivocally that there is the same amount of genetic variation among individuals within a so called racial group as there is between individuals in different racial groups. What that means is that there is no real genetic difference between blacks and whites or between whites and Asians or between any of the so called races.
http://www.adversity.net/FRAMES/Editorials/54_Paler_Shade_of_Black.htm

So race does play a very important role in our lives, and I think race is real as a social construct. It's not real as a biologically definable thing.
http://www.pbs.org/race/000_About/002_04-background-01-03.htm

Researchers know there is no scientific evidence for genetic differences between racial groups when it comes to athletic ability, but apparently some of the American public isn’t getting the message.
http://www.med.umich.edu/opm/newspage/2006/geneticprejudice.htm
 
For anyone who posits the "more variation within group than between group argument"

http://majorityrights.com/index.php...ly_unprecedented_returns_from_pro_e/#comments

The exact same sophistry can be used to deny any categorization whatsoever: races, species, genera, male-female, child-adult, all of them. It can be extended to prove any category whatsoever does not exist. It’s absolutely laughable. The question is why do some Euro academics fall for it? C. Loring Brace, for example (correct me if I’m wrong). As for Jewish academics, we know why they fall for it: they fricking invented it. It’s like their religion for some of them, for crying out loud. They cling to it for dear life. It’s pure diaspora-Jewish politics.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on Monday, March 12, 2007 at 04:31 PM | #
 
Count Sudoku said:
As for Jewish academics, we know why they fall for it: they fricking invented it. It’s like their religion for some of them, for crying out loud. They cling to it for dear life. It’s pure diaspora-Jewish politics.

Posted by Fred Scrooby on Monday, March 12, 2007 at 04:31 PM | #
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you tip your hand.
and this example is exactly why the initial thread was deleted, and the participants banned for three days.
 
So... What exactly is discussed in a white ancestry club that necessitates non-whites be closemouthed?
 
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Has Sciforums changed their policies drastically in the last few months? Cause I've posted and seen much worse before.
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no, but attempts to blatantly keep any group from being able to post is frowned upon, and the spirit of what was being done is even illegal in many european countries.
 
This hypocrisy is not unexpected. I established the thread, which was not, incidentally, a 'white supremacist thread', in response to the thread about the Black Policemen's Association. The name of my thread was 'The White Sciforum Members' Association'.

We warmly welcomed all white Sciforum members who chose to post and show their support, and I even posted that we ought to write a letter of thank-you to the Black Policemen's Association for having given us the idea. The other members agreed.

It was intended to expose the racist hypocrisy of Sciforum members who gave effusive support to the Black Policeman's Association, and yet would - whilst purportedly nourishing the moral principles of diversity and the multicultural creed of each culture 'celebrating' themselves - violently shut-down an enterprise by Whites attempting the same goal.

The experiment was therefore successful, insofar as it exposed hypocrisy in a way that debate alone could never have done.

For those who participated in the destruction of the White Sciforum Members' Assocation, and the banning and infraction-granting of some of its members, may I direct you to the following articles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness#Criticism_of_political_correctness
 
Lord Hillyer said:
This hypocrisy is not unexpected. I established the thread, which was not, incidentally, a 'white supremacist thread', in response to the thread about the Black Policemen's Association. The name of my thread was 'The White Sciforum Members' Association'.

We warmly welcomed all white Sciforum members who chose to post and show their support, and I even posted that we ought to write a letter of thank-you to the Black Policemen's Association for having given us the idea. The other members agreed.

It was intended to expose the racist hypocrisy of Sciforum members who gave effusive support to the Black Policeman's Association, and yet would - whilst purportedly nourishing the moral principles of diversity and the multicultural creed of each culture 'celebrating' themselves - violently shut-down an enterprise by Whites attempting the same goal.

The experiment was therefore successful, insofar as it exposed hypocrisy in a way that debate alone could never have done.

For those who participated in the destruction of the White Sciforum Members' Assocation, and the banning and infraction-granting of some of its members, may I direct you to the following articles:
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a bunch of whiny bollocks from a 17 year old that knows nothing about the world.
it was an attempt to be "different" and "cool".
it failed. you arent cool.
 
Lord Hillyer said:
This hypocrisy is not unexpected. I established the thread, which was not, incidentally, a 'white supremacist thread', in response to the thread about the Black Policemen's Association. The name of my thread was 'The White Sciforum Members' Association'.

We warmly welcomed all white Sciforum members who chose to post and show their support, and I even posted that we ought to write a letter of thank-you to the Black Policemen's Association for having given us the idea. The other members agreed.

It was intended to expose the racist hypocrisy of Sciforum members who gave effusive support to the Black Policeman's Association, and yet would - whilst purportedly nourishing the moral principles of diversity and the multicultural creed of each culture 'celebrating' themselves - violently shut-down an enterprise by Whites attempting the same goal.

The experiment was therefore successful, insofar as it exposed hypocrisy in a way that debate alone could never have done.

For those who participated in the destruction of the White Sciforum Members' Assocation, and the banning and infraction-granting of some of its members, may I direct you to the following articles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness#Criticism_of_political_correctness
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You said that your association was a respond to establishing of 'Black Policemen Association'.
Tell my one thing my lord.
Was 'Black Policemen Association' created on SciForums?
 
Originally Posted by Lord Hillyer
This hypocrisy is not unexpected. I established the thread, which was not, incidentally, a 'white supremacist thread', in response to the thread about the Black Policemen's Association. The name of my thread was 'The White Sciforum Members' Association'.
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I saw the Policemen title but never took a peek, so I can't make a complete connection between that and a White Sciforum's club. However, I can differentiate a difference in dynamics between being part of a minority group of a law enforcement agency in a very nationalistic and proud city with a monarch in residence, to that of being a nobody, casually strolling through an internet lounge, where people chat and assume being queen bee for the while.
 
Lord Hillyer said:
It was intended to expose the racist hypocrisy of Sciforum members who gave effusive support to the Black Policeman's Association, and yet would - whilst purportedly nourishing the moral principles of diversity and the multicultural creed of each culture 'celebrating' themselves - violently shut-down an enterprise by Whites attempting the same goal.

The experiment was therefore successful, insofar as it exposed hypocrisy in a way that debate alone could never have done.

For those who participated in the destruction of the White Sciforum Members' Assocation, and the banning and infraction-granting of some of its members, may I direct you to the following articles:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness#Criticism_of_political_correctness
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As a coloured individual, I have never found the notion of any such clubs to be beneficial or even enjoyable.

While you say you were attempting to point out the hypocrisy of sciforums members by forming a white association on these boards, you failed to take into account that no such club for any racial group would have been welcome, be it white, black, beige, orange (for the badly faked tanned amongst us), etc.

Sciforums has always been an open forum where members are free to post where they so choose and the very notion that only a group of members would be allowed to participate in this little club goes against the very idea of what this forum was ever about.

Segregating or separating the forum along racial lines in these sorts of clubs is not something that would have been allowed or welcome. As you can see from the majority of the posts in this particular thread, had anyone attempted to do the same, regardless of colour, no one would have welcomed it. Had you attempted to form such a club in real life, as the Black Policeman's Association is in real life, then you should have been free to do so. But this is an internet forum and no such club has ever been formed across these boards and the reply you received upon attempting to form such a club was to let you know that they would not be welcome in the future.

Your banning came after the fact that you were warned that no such club would be allowed on these boards. Continued reposting of deleted threads and the protests that ensued is why you were banned for 3 days. Had I, as a coloured individual, tried to pull the same thing as you did, I too would have been banned. The same would have applied to anyone and everyone who happens to be a member of these boards.

Cries of hypocrisy will fall on deaf ears simply because there was no hypocrisy in this instance, since no such club would be allowed on these forums. Had there been other clubs of this sort on sciforums when you tried to form the whites only club, then maybe you would have had grounds to scream hypocrisy. But this is not the case. So your exercise to point out the supposed hypocrisy backfired badly as there really was no hypocrisy, because no such clubs are allowed to be formed on sciforums. As Plazma asked you, was the Black Policeman's Association formed in sciforums? No. So your calls of hypocrisy are completely unfounded.
 
The forces of anti-reason are as amusing as they are disgusting: Very.

Anyway, I am done. James R.'s cowardice prevails even over his hypocrisy.
 
Prince_James said:
The forces of anti-reason are as amusing as they are disgusting: Very.

Anyway, I am done. James R.'s cowardice prevails even over his hypocrisy.
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Considering he is not in your timezone, you can't expect him to sit up with gleeful anticipation awaiting your responses 24/7.:rolleyes:
 
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