Temporary banning of Lord Hillyer and Prince_James

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You wrote 3 infractions. Check your own shit. I can only conclude that you were trying to incite Prince James into flaming.
 
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From a Private Message I sent a few moments after I began the thread. Please note the date and time:

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Not to state the absolute obvious, the Black Policeman's Association did not start and has nothing to do with sciforums. Had any black police officer attempted to start such an association on sciforums, they would have suffered the same fate as you and been told 'no'.

There was no 'goodwill' involved in attempting to start a whites only association/club. You actually thought you might have gotten away with it. So people don't have a problem with some who wish to start such clubs where they work. And? That has nothing to do with sciforums.

You knew that a whites only club would not be welcome on these particular boards. Nor would a blacks only club been welcome. Or any other club that restricts and discriminates against members. Your intention was to flame. Had anyone attempted to form a club based on ANY racial lines, they would have been told no.

Now reasons given for starting this club. You wanted to prove a point of so called hypocrisy and PJ actually does want to have a whites only club to celebrate his colour the superiority said colour gives him.

So which is it? I would have assumed you would have gotten your stories straight before attempting to start this stupidity, but it appears I was mistaken. Do you wish to split the forums and form a whites only club, as PJ does? Or was this just an exercise to show the so called hypocrisy of members and administration of this forum? What hypocrisy has yet to be established, since no one would have ever been allowed to form a club that would segregate and restrict the participation of all members..
 
ban them. Why?

because this is an attempt to expose flaws in moderation.

and, who's gonna miss them?
 
Prince_James:

I think we're just about done here.

Your attempts to rationalise your actions and exonerate yourself rather than taking responsibility for the views you espouse speaks volumes about you, but doesn't make any progress. And your attempts to throw mud regarding my actions as moderator, in the hope that if you throw enough some of it might stick seem largely to have failed, except perhaps among the few here who already share your racist agenda.

Actually, I have read "Guns, Germs, and Steel". I have it on my book shelf, in fact, right now.

This is a side-track. Frankly, I'm not sure why you brought it up in the first place. If you have an actual point to make, it is probably better off being discussed elsewhere.

Ergo, you cannot establish new rules of "no segregated clubs allowed".

And only segregation by race, or by everything?

Read my first post to this thread. I was very clear.

That's four times I've told you.

Superficial? Is "being human" superficial? Another innate characteristic which seems to have a great deal of importance!

Another attempt at deliberate misdirection on your part. Nobody is falling for that.

The scientists behind said book is that the genetic evidence is available. Note: Not "racist" evidence, but genetic evidence.

Further evidence that you haven't understood what little you have read. You just don't listen to advice, do you?

Last I checked, the infraction for abusive language was 5 points, not 7 days.

Am I to suppose that it is Sciforums policy to give some people greater punishment than others for the same crime?

Yes, it is. First offences often attract a warning. If they are moderately serious, they may attract an infraction instead. Serious offences may warrant an immediate ban, either temporary or permanent.

Repeat offences for the same thing tend to attract increasingly harsh moderation.

In the present instance, you have just come back from a 3 day ban for a serious offence. You have now been warned about the penalty which you, personally, will incur if you decide to throw the most abusive language possible at another member of sciforums for a second time.

In fact, you have been let off lightly this time - your second offence. You will probably find that moderators become less and less tolerant as you clock up more and more offences.

One would have thought that you'd been on sciforums long enough to have observed similar patterns in respect of other posters. One would have thought you might have learned something, with your 156 IQ. We'll see.

How about calling me a "racist bigot"?

Are you going to address such abusive language directed to me?

You will be given the respect you earn and deserve. You can't expect a double standard to be applied. You are not special. You cannot expect to insult others with impunity and not expect that some insults thrown back at you will not be allowed to remain.

Moderation is obviously a job you would find very difficult. It often requires an exercise of delicate judgment, and a balancing of competing claims. This is why the process is not automated, but is undertaken by trusted human beings.

And I also read the full article: It affirms the reality of genetic populations corresponding to colloquial races.

If you wish to discuss this in more detail, perhaps spuriousmonkey or I can explain it to you in a different thread. You've completely missed the point of the article.

I do not claim that blacks, Orientals, whites, Semites, et cetera, are all different species. Only different races.

Attempted misdirection, or just innocent misunderstanding? Now I'm not sure.
 
I think anyone expressing a controversial opinion should be banned.

That way it'll leave more room for the real good posters like IceAgeCivilizations, who have something deep and inspiring to say.

Here's how stupidity starts:

It's shielded from the consequences of its own quality.
 
That opinion may be controversial!

BOOM: 3 days
Been there...

Here's why stupidity is prefered:

It's more pliable and willing to conform to rules and regulations. It's obtuseness is, seemingly, harmless.
It just thinks superficially and speaks ianities. But it obeys the laws.
Thusly social groups nurture stupidity and allow it to grow, like a cancer, until the entire thing dies.

The Feminization of Man
 
James R.:

I think we're just about done here.

It is an exercise in futility.

Your attempts to rationalise your actions and exonerate yourself rather than taking responsibility for the views you espouse speaks volumes about you, but doesn't make any progress. And your attempts to throw mud regarding my actions as moderator, in the hope that if you throw enough some of it might stick seem largely to have failed, except perhaps among the few here who already share your racist agenda.

Yackity-yak, don't come back.

This is a side-track. Frankly, I'm not sure why you brought it up in the first place. If you have an actual point to make, it is probably better off being discussed elsewhere.

You claimed it was "another conversation where I did not read the book in question". The book in question began related back to "Guns, Germs, and Steel".

Or did you mean "IQ and the Wealth of Nations"?

For you are right there, and I shall admit it: I did not read the entire book. I rather depended upon you know, the wealth of reviews out there, to accurately reflect the contents of the book, speciifically in light of the concordance amongst them that such and such things were claimed.

Read my first post to this thread. I was very clear.

That's four times I've told you.

And haven't I told you t hat I don't speak Absurd?

Another attempt at deliberate misdirection on your part. Nobody is falling for that.

Drawing artificial lines between "superficial" characteristics and not based on biology implies that humanity itself is unimportant.

Moreover, what about tall clubs?

And you fail to even discuss the fact that we are determined creatures. Technically speaking, we have no more choice over our beliefs than we have over our biology, unless you postulate that somehow our minds transcend the laws of causality.

Further evidence that you haven't understood what little you have read. You just don't listen to advice, do you?

And you just don't listen to science, do you?

Yes, it is. First offences often attract a warning. If they are moderately serious, they may attract an infraction instead. Serious offences may warrant an immediate ban, either temporary or permanent.

Pray tell how calling someone a "cranky cunt" is a serious offense?

I am not even baiting you here: Seriously, what is so bad about "cranky cunt"?

Repeat offences for the same thing tend to attract increasingly harsh moderation.

I do not believe I have ever been given a citation for saying "cranky cunt". Or in fact, for ever insulting another member.

In the present instance, you have just come back from a 3 day ban for a serious offence. You have now been warned about the penalty which you, personally, will incur if you decide to throw the most abusive language possible at another member of sciforums for a second time.

"Cranky cunt" is the most abusive language possible?

How so?

I thought in Australia, the term "cunt" was relatively common, for one?

Secondly, certainly one can say something worse than "cunt", can't one?

I mean, off hand, I can think of several things I could have called her far more offensive than that. I won't repeat them here, though.

In fact, you have been let off lightly this time - your second offence. You will probably find that moderators become less and less tolerant as you clock up more and more offences.

One would have thought that you'd been on sciforums long enough to have observed similar patterns in respect of other posters. One would have thought you might have learned something, with your 156 IQ. We'll see.

When someone insults me, I insult back.

I have been repeatedly insulted and slandered by yourself and others.

Pray tell why should I not retaliate in kind?

Am I to suppose that moderators have special "flame" privileges?

Here, how about this James R.:

You give yourself, Bells, and several other peoples infractions for unwarrantedly calling me a "racist bigot" and you give me a 5 point infraction for calling Bells a "cranky cunt".

We'll be even then and we can go on like big boys and girls.

You will be given the respect you earn and deserve. You can't expect a double standard to be applied. You are not special. You cannot expect to insult others with impunity and not expect that some insults thrown back at you will not be allowed to remain.

I did not initiate the insults. Please check the post numbers.

If you wish to discuss this in more detail, perhaps spuriousmonkey or I can explain it to you in a different thread. You've completely missed the point of the article.

I doubt you have the scientific integrity to discuss anything relating to things you disagree with, James R. In fact, I do not doubt, I know, for you have shown yourself incapable of removing the goggles of prejudice.

Attempted misdirection, or just innocent misunderstanding? Now I'm not sure.

You quoted that all humans are one species. I never claimed otherwise.

Also, it is curious that you once again fail to materialize any evidence whatsoever of my supposed racist remarks.
 
"Cranky cunt" is the most abusive language possible?

How so?

I thought in Australia, the term "cunt" was relatively common, for one?

Secondly, certainly one can say something worse than "cunt", can't one?

I mean, off hand, I can think of several things I could have called her far more offensive than that. I won't repeat them here, though.

Actually, the term "cunt" is not relatively common amongst general society in Australia. It is usually a term heard amongst the uneducated and the uncouth. As evidenced by your use of it here I guess.

Oh, and remember when I said this to you in regards to you referring to me as that?...

Bells said:
Do it again and I will give you an infraction.
Link

I was not joking.

:)
 
Prince_James:

Only one point worth responding to in your last post, to correct another misconception of yours which hasn't been corrected before.

I thought in Australia, the term "cunt" was relatively common, for one?

It is no more acceptable in Australia than in the United States. If you ever come to Australia, I strongly advise you not to you that term, even if you are accustomed to doing so where you live.

Ok. I think we're done here.
 
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