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I find it loathsome to not understand reality.
Sorry for your self-loathing, then. Many working class people DON'T SAVE BECAUSE THEY BARELY PAY RENT AND GROCERIES AND TRANSPORT. Some even need to put bills on a credit card, in order to avoid eviction or hunger. And some that end the month with a little extra have to turn around and make student loan or other debt payments.

Where the actual fuck have you been?
 
Yes, people aren't equal. That's just nature and reality. Most animals don't die of old age
I see, as long as humans live long enough to breed, there will be an endless supply of people, just like all other animals?
Even in that natural world there are species that carry their wounded. You would exclude humans from that noble instinct?

Never mind that humans are the only animal that can actually control its own evolution and alter the use of natural resources, rather than having to adapt to them.
 
Tevat, God be with me, you can consider me out of the loop, but do you seriously think that Trump's team is made up of idiots?
Yes. Quite a bit of evidence is piling up that 47 has surrounded himself with loyal sycophants who have low competence in their assigned duties. идиоты.
 
Sorry for your self-loathing, then. Many working class people DON'T SAVE BECAUSE THEY BARELY PAY RENT AND GROCERIES AND TRANSPORT. Some even need to put bills on a credit card, in order to avoid eviction or hunger. And some that end the month with a little extra have to turn around and make student loan or other debt payments.

Where the actual fuck have you been?
В Штатах на самом деле всё так плохо? Работающий, не алкоголик и не наркоман человек, может едва "сводить концы с концами"?
 
Is it really that bad in the States? A working person who is not an alcoholic or drug addict can barely "make ends meet"?
Of full-time workers in the US, more than 50 percent reportedly work more than 40 hours, 40 percent more than 50 hours and 20 percent more than 60 hours. Between 30 and 40 percent have two or more jobs. Undoubtedly, some do so by choice, but the vast majority do so out of necessity.

As a lazy fucker, these numbers blow my mind--60 freaking hours?! As for the costs most impacting these decisions, it depends upon whom you ask. I would say that for most urban and suburban dwellers, the biggest factor here is the cost of housing--either renting or owning. But healthcare is also an enormous factor.
 
Sorry for your self-loathing, then. Many working class people DON'T SAVE BECAUSE THEY BARELY PAY RENT AND GROCERIES AND TRANSPORT. Some even need to put bills on a credit card, in order to avoid eviction or hunger. And some that end the month with a little extra have to turn around and make student loan or other debt payments.

Where the actual fuck have you been?
People like Seattle are prone to ignoring the supposedly little things, as well. A person has a job interview. Should they get a new shirt and a haircut? How much should they spend on those things? Maybe they shouldn't matter all that much, but we all know that they do.
 
Of full-time workers in the US, more than 50 percent reportedly work more than 40 hours, 40 percent more than 50 hours and 20 percent more than 60 hours. Between 30 and 40 percent have two or more jobs. Undoubtedly, some do so by choice, but the vast majority do so out of necessity.

As a lazy fucker, these numbers blow my mind--60 freaking hours?! As for the costs most impacting these decisions, it depends upon whom you ask. I would say that for most urban and suburban dwellers, the biggest factor here is the cost of housing--either renting or owning. But healthcare is also an enormous factor.
Какое жильё может себе позволить купить рабочий в Штатах, и за какое время он может на него накопить?
 
You missed out alcohol!
It's hard to categorize so-called "vices"--are they entertainment, or are they other? For instance, I smoke but I only smoke hand-rolled cigarettes with decent (organic, not full of a bunch of random shit like sawdust and discarded needles, and not stale) tobacco--because I actually like tobacco and rolling cigarettes and all that crap. I'd venture that that isn't the case for most smokers--they do it because they're addicted and it's some sort of coping mechanism. (Actually, it's a coping mechanism for me, as well, as it addresses a number of neurological idiosyncracies, but actually liking the whole thing is the primary factor.) I don't like alcohol generally--and spirits all taste like isopropyl to me--but I know that cheap beer tastes like piss and cheap wine tastes like fruit juice gone bad, yet that's what most Americans drink. Are they actually enjoying that stuff? It's hard to tell.
 
You missed out alcohol!
Also, I grew up poor and we lived on the cheapest of the cheap stuff. Owing to extreme frugality and sensible choices, my mom is now, I guess, middle class (whatever that means) and has been for some time. For the past two decades at least, I've been trying to convince my mother that she no longer needs to buy the cheapest of the cheap with respect to pretty much everything. It's hard because the habits and spending patterns becomes so ingrained. My mom likes coffee, for instance, but she still buys this nasty shit and the only way I can get her to actually drink halfway decent coffee is if I buy it myself. I'd hazard that the same goes for people who seem to spend frivolously--it's just a very hard habit to break.
 
It's hard to categorize so-called "vices"--are they entertainment, or are they other? For instance, I smoke but I only smoke hand-rolled cigarettes with decent (organic, not full of a bunch of random shit like sawdust and discarded needles, and not stale) tobacco--because I actually like tobacco and rolling cigarettes and all that crap. I'd venture that that isn't the case for most smokers--they do it because they're addicted and it's some sort of coping mechanism. (Actually, it's a coping mechanism for me, as well, as it addresses a number of neurological idiosyncracies, but actually liking the whole thing is the primary factor.) I don't like alcohol generally--and spirits all taste like isopropyl to me--but I know that cheap beer tastes like piss and cheap wine tastes like fruit juice gone bad, yet that's what most Americans drink. Are they actually enjoying that stuff? It's hard to tell.
В России то же самое: алкоголики не понимают вкус хорошего натурального вина, или крафтового пива. Им нужно чтобы "штырило"(это сленг, не знаю как это сказать по английски), т.е. им нужно не расслабиться, или насладиться вкусом, а стать абсолютно пьяным как можно быстрее.

Я сейчас часто наблюдаю такую картину: приезжающие в отпуск на 2 недели(сами знаете откуда), привозят с собой деньги, которых им хватило бы на покупку жилья или хорошей европейской машины, но не тратят их на это,а пропивают их подчистую за эти пару недель. Водка, проститутки, компании пьяных друзей - это в их понимании "красивая жизнь".
 
You're the one who is obsessed with this subject. It just seems odd to me that you haven't really looked into it, otherwise you'd have some sort of opinion about where, specifically, people are prone to budget poorly. But I'll make it easy for you by providing a list of basic budget categories and you can tell me which areas you believe most people, who are not saving money, can feasibly make cuts to:

housing
transportation
groceries
healthcare
utilities
entertainment
other (crack, cigarettes, whores, etc.)

I've undoubtedly overlooked some important ones, but that's because I've honestly never made a budget in my life. I'm a cheap bastard and I can personally attest to the fact that even that has costs which might not be readily apparent to all: Some people find it fascinating, while others find it annoying and that incurs a social and societal price which, in some manner or another, translates into real financial costs. There's no simple calculus for this shit but you seem to act as though there is.
You manage to have a penny to your name don't you? How do you do it? That's how they or anyone does it.
 
Also, I grew up poor and we lived on the cheapest of the cheap stuff. Owing to extreme frugality and sensible choices, my mom is now, I guess, middle class (whatever that means) and has been for some time. For the past two decades at least, I've been trying to convince my mother that she no longer needs to buy the cheapest of the cheap with respect to pretty much everything. It's hard because the habits and spending patterns becomes so ingrained. My mom likes coffee, for instance, but she still buys this nasty shit and the only way I can get her to actually drink halfway decent coffee is if I buy it myself. I'd hazard that the same goes for people who seem to spend frivolously--it's just a very hard habit to break.
So your Mom was poor and by making sensible choices, she is now middle-class. You've made my point.
 
Of full-time workers in the US, more than 50 percent reportedly work more than 40 hours, 40 percent more than 50 hours and 20 percent more than 60 hours. Between 30 and 40 percent have two or more jobs. Undoubtedly, some do so by choice, but the vast majority do so out of necessity.

As a lazy fucker, these numbers blow my mind--60 freaking hours?! As for the costs most impacting these decisions, it depends upon whom you ask. I would say that for most urban and suburban dwellers, the biggest factor here is the cost of housing--either renting or owning. But healthcare is also an enormous factor.
What would be your advice for other "lazy fuckers"? Ask the government for more money?
 
So your Mom was poor and by making sensible choices, she is now middle-class. You've made my point.
My example of one makes your point? Seriously? A couple of things... First of all, my mom is 80 and things are a bit different for the under-80s in the US today--you are aware of this, yes? Also, my mom is exceptionally bright and her ability to turn shit into gold is almost like alchemy. Lots of other factors here, of course, but why even humor your notion that my single example "makes (your) point"?
 
You manage to have a penny to your name don't you? How do you do it? That's how they or anyone does it.
Let's pretend--for the sake of this discussion thing which you are supposedly so fond of--that I only have a few pennies to my name. Without knowing my particular circumstances, and rather just going by data and all that shit, where would you suggest I make cuts or adjustments?
 
Let's pretend--for the sake of this discussion thing which you are supposedly so fond of--that I only have a few pennies to my name. Without knowing my particular circumstances, and rather just going by data and all that shit, where would you suggest I make cuts or adjustments?
Сделайте из них бусики и обменяйте у туземцев на золото. Разве не так поступали первые переселенцы в Америке?
 
You manage to have a penny to your name don't you? How do you do it? That's how they or anyone does it.
Alright, here's a real example: These days I don't take any meds because they all suck and none of them work, but back in the day I took sodium valproate because it kind of worked for a while and then it didn't. I was first prescribed this when I was a grad student in Toronto and all was good, but then I moved back to the US and it got complicated. At the time, there was no generic available and out of pocket it would have cost me something like 1200 bucks a month. Even when I had insurance, it was effectively useless because of that whole pre-existing condition thing. So what did I do? I knew a pharmacist in Mexico and I placed a phone call and sent a money order every few months--saved over a thousand bucks. This was in the early days of the interwebs and online pharmacies were still a few years a way. Do you honestly believe that most people have those sorts of connections and would have done the same, or would they--of necessity--have been forced to find a way to come up with that 1200 bucks a month?
 
Alright, here's a real example: These days I don't take any meds because they all suck and none of them work, but back in the day I took sodium valproate because it kind of worked for a while and then it didn't. I was first prescribed this when I was a grad student in Toronto and all was good, but then I moved back to the US and it got complicated. At the time, there was no generic available and out of pocket it would have cost me something like 1200 bucks a month. Even when I had insurance, it was effectively useless because of that whole pre-existing condition thing. So what did I do? I knew a pharmacist in Mexico and I placed a phone call and sent a money order every few months--saved over a thousand bucks. This was in the early days of the interwebs and online pharmacies were still a few years a way. Do you honestly believe that most people have those sorts of connections and would have done the same, or would they--of necessity--have been forced to find a way to come up with that 1200 bucks a month?
Откуда у вас такие цены на лекарства? Я сейчас посмотрела в интернете, у нас ваше лекарство стоит 746 рублей, это примерно 9$ за упаковку 100 штук по 500 мг.
 
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