It's nothing to do with Religion or Ideology, but everything to do with Realpolitik
I've been a member here for some time. I am somewhat surprised it took so long for this issue to be posted as a thread. And when it finally has been posted as a thread, it has to be posted by a new member? I think the heart of the reason why it needs to be posted by a new member, is because the old members who dominant the discussing and chase off those with opposing view points, or ridicule those with view points that challenge the western paradigm would be embarassed to bring the subject up. Really. How many times do we need to see this?
superstring01, do you honestly believe what you are writing? You see the same thing over and over again. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and Syria? Do you honestly think that if the Russians and Chinese don't put their foot down and say "NO, no more" that the west and Israeli's aren't going to stop at this line? What is your rational? How do you excuse yourself in this discussion? Oh, I know, your same out. You must be given some expert media analysis that supports the opposing position. Don't you see the absurdity of your position? You want . . .
Where. Can you identify a source of reasonable repute?
What would be a journalist of reasonable repute in Syria? How about Iran? And China or Russia? Isn't it all relative? Seems to me you suffer from severe confirmation bias. If it doesn't conform to your world view, than it isn't a source of reasonable repute. Don't you think that is the case?
For me, I recognize patterns. I think people are blind if they don't see them. Why don't you study something called realpolitik.
None the less, I will try to make my case using sources that are not from Russia or Iran, nor from
CFR and US/NATO funded media sources.
Ever since the "Arab Spring," the Western political elites have sought to end the Assad regime. They have sought to do this through social media networks. They have sought to bring about the collapse of all of the autocratic governments that have been unfriendly to them in this manner. Social media networks are western agents of change, and are inherently politically friendly to western regimes via the internet. The roots of this revolution, civil war date back to that time period. However, the masses of people in Syria may not necessarily have been unhappy enough to commit to violent revolution. This is where NATO and their individual special forces and intelligence operations of the individual member states come in.
Like the title of my post states, this state of affairs has nothing to do with what the people in Syria actually want. It has everything to do with what the political, financial, and military elites in the western nations want. This is a threat to Russia, China, and other nations of the world as they have been watching the nations of the west enact this strategy one by one in a unipolar world for the world's limited resources. This is called Realpolitik. Take an entry level course in international affairs at a junior college, it will all become very clear. Or read Kissinger's or Zbigniew Brzezinski's latest books.
Source.
I'm not asking. I'm actually gonna be a dick here and offer you the opportunity to support that or request that you leave this subforum.
This is one topic I have been following quite intently for the past year. I have known for some time that British special forces have been training Syrian rebels since late last year. They admitted as much to the British people. This is from from May of this year. . . meaning they admitted in November??!! Who knows how long they were training. .
Reports from late November last year state that British Special forces have met up with members of the Free Syrian Army (FSA), the armed wing of the Syrian National Council. The apparent goal of this initial contact was to establish the rebel forces' strength and to pave the way for any future training operations.
http://www.eliteukforces.info/uk-military-news/0501012-british-special-forces-syria.php
More recent reports have stated that British and French Special Forces have been actively training members of the FSA, from a base in Turkey. Some reports indicate that training is also taking place in locations in Libya and Northern Lebanon. British MI6 operatives and UKSF (SAS/SBS) personnel have reportedly been training the rebels in urban warfare as well as supplying them with arms and equipment. US CIA operatives and special forces are believed to be providing communications assistance to the rebels.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/nato-vs-syria/
From December 19, 2011
Philip Giraldi, a former CIA officer, is executive director of the Council for the National Interest.
NATO is already clandestinely engaged in the Syrian conflict, with Turkey taking the lead as U.S. proxy. Ankara’s foreign minister, Ahmet Davitoglu, has openly admitted that his country is prepared to invade as soon as there is agreement among the Western allies to do so. The intervention would be based on humanitarian principles, to defend the civilian population based on the “responsibility to protect” doctrine that was invoked to justify Libya. Turkish sources suggest that intervention would start with creation of a buffer zone along the Turkish-Syrian border and then be expanded. Aleppo, Syria’s largest and most cosmopolitan city, would be the crown jewel targeted by liberation forces.
Unmarked NATO warplanes are arriving at Turkish military bases close to Iskenderum on the Syrian border, delivering weapons from the late Muammar Gaddafi’s arsenals as well as volunteers from the Libyan Transitional National Council who are experienced in pitting local volunteers against trained soldiers, a skill they acquired confronting Gaddafi’s army. Iskenderum is also the seat of the Free Syrian Army, the armed wing of the Syrian National Council. French and British special forces trainers are on the ground, assisting the Syrian rebels while the CIA and U.S. Spec Ops are providing communications equipment and intelligence to assist the rebel cause, enabling the fighters to avoid concentrations of Syrian soldiers.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/ML02Ak01.html
Although these ''humanitarians'' come from NATO members US, Canada and France, and GCC members Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the UAE, their cover is that they're only innocent ''monitors'', and not part of NATO. Needless to say these humanitarians consist of ground, naval, air force and engineering specialists. Their mission: infiltrate northern Syria, especially Idlib, Rastan, Homs but most of all the big prize, Aleppo, the largest city in Syria, with at least 2.5 million people, the majority of which are Sunni and Kurdish.
Even before this news from Brussels, the French satirical weekly Le Canard Enchaine - as well as the Turkish daily Milliyet - had already revealed that commandos from French intelligence and the British MI6 are training the FSA in urban guerrilla techniques, in Hatay in southern Turkey and in Tripoli, in northern Lebanon. Weapons - from shotguns to Israeli machine guns and RPGs - have been smuggled en masse.
It's no secret in Syria that armed gangs - from Salafis to petty criminals - have been attacking regular soldiers, the police and even civilians since the early stages of the protest movement. Of roughly 3,500 people killed during the past seven months, a large number of civilians and more than 1,100 soldiers were killed by these gangs.
Fundamentally, this whole thing has to do with Realpolitik. It has to do with NATO and Washington interests. Peak resources and "peak oil." I believe it also has to do with who will control the financial framework of the world's economic system. There may even be plans in the works to redraw the map of the middle east. Who knows? One thing you can be sure of, it has nothing to do with "freedom" or "democracy," the global elites don't give a whit about empty words like those.
