Supernova From Experimentation At Fermilab

Discussion in 'Astronomy, Exobiology, & Cosmology' started by Paul W. Dixon, Feb 28, 2001.

  1. wet1 Wanderer Registered Senior Member

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    Paul,
    I don't think you're having any better results than when you were rallying against food irradation.
     
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  3. kmguru Staff Member

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    Paul:

    Here is one for you. The Cosmic Rays are hurting us. We need to do something about it. That sounds like a good cause for you.

    And the Tachyon showers causing temporal displacements. And a super string is heading our way that if touches you will put you in Nirvana....
     
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    B'Lana - help required!

    B'Lana - can you get out the tachyon converters please - we are having a spot of bother in No 3 Sciforum converter with temporal displacement!

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  7. Paul W. Dixon Registered Senior Member

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    SUPERNOVA FROM EXPERIMENTATIONAT AT FERMILAB

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    May we thank you for your very kind interest in these most salient and critical matters.

    The exact positioning and distribution of the cluster of particles in the Tevatron is a major task for the ongoing engineering now occuring a Fermilab. (Please note: the Accelerator Updates for August 2001.) It is then, these pencil shaped combined clusters of particles so directed as to form the maximum luminosity of particle interactions, which far exceeds the energetics of those singular widely disbursed cosmic ray particles found in nature. In a mathematical sense, it is the intersection of two n-dimensional topologies which permits a correlational matrix of image centroid values that allow a statistical approximation of the extent of the overlap between the matrix geometry of this universe and other geometrical entities. Where such an overlap occurs it may be possible to find the penetration of extra-universe (i.e., de Sitter space) energy.
    This would then be found in the transition towards de Sitter space seen in the rupture of the classically defined potential barrier towards de Sitter space here postulated in Type Ia supernova generation. This is then the mechanism for the forthcoming supernova generation at Fermilab.

    This postulation invokes the high-energy condition of modern Relativistic Cosmology and not the low-energy condition which is also part of the standard cosmolgical model. The oscillatory action of the circulating clusters of particles in the accelerator ring may also form a kind of key to the energetics of de Sitter space under this postulation.

    All best wishes,

    Yours sincerely,

    Paul W. Dixon, Ph.D.
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    All best wishes,

    Yours sincerely,

    Paul W. Dixon, Ph.D
    Supernova from Experimentation
     
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  8. Paul W. Dixon Registered Senior Member

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    May we thank you for your kind interest in these most critical matters.

    We note that the Tevatron at Fermilab has again reached the former luminosity levels of particle interactions over time. (Please note: Accelerator update) The standard model of relativistic cosmology shows some sixteen dimensions for our continuum. Even though it may be stated that so far there has been no empirical verification of these dimensions, the other conclusions from the general theory of relativity have so far been verfied. Even the demonstration of gravitational wave radiation from binary stars was recently awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics. It may, therefore, be unwise to plunge forward into the unknown with yet increasingly large energies in the Tevatron only to confirm the existence of higher dimensions via supernova generation here on earth.

    All of the children will thank you for your kind offices on their behalf.

    All best wishes,

    Yours sincerely,

    Paul W. Dixon, Ph.D.
    Supernova from Experimentation
     
  9. Crisp Gone 4ever Registered Senior Member

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    16 dimensions -> 4 dimensions

    Dear Paul,

    Gravitational waves in the context you use them are a concept in the theory of General Relativity, which describes the universe as a four-dimensional entity (space-time).

    "The standard model" used in cosmology refers to a way of indexing the known particles (quarks/leptons). You could call it a "Mendeljev's table" for elementary particles. It is very lickely that these parameters are described in a 16-dimensional space, but this refers to the number of quantum parameters required to uniquely label an elementary particle (if I am not mistaken then at the moment the mathematical space used to describe elementary particles is SU(24) which is a... ehr... 47-dimensional space (dimension of SU(n) = 2n - 1 ... hrm, I should check my math books on this)). Anyway, the exact dimension is not really of importance, every now and then another quantum parameter is added so this is no fixed number yet. These SU(n) spaces are fictional (abstract mathematical entities), and are not parallel/sub universes.

    Bye!

    Crisp
     
  10. Paul W. Dixon Registered Senior Member

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    SUPERNVOVA FROM EXPERIMENTATION AT FERMILAB

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    Many, many thanks to all our dear friends and colleagues for your kind interest in these most salient matters.

    Please note: the communication of 03-17-01 8:30 AM of Paul W. Dixon in reference to sciforums.com >News>exosci>.com. Physics, Fermilab Tevatron Begins Run II. In this review, it mentions that with increased energetics now coming on line at Fermilab one of the stated goals is to search for other dimensions. What is here the major concern, is not those dimensions associated with the continuum, but rather those highly energetic conditions which may be referred to as the high-energy condition also termed de Sitter space, in the Einstein de Sitter Universe as it is now termed.

    Our sincere and heartfelt prayers are that this perilous leap into the unknown will be halted before it is too late.

    All best wishes,

    All of the children will thank for your most kind offices on their behalf.

    Yours sincerely,

    Paul W. Dixon, Ph.D.
    Supernova from Experimentation
     
  11. Crisp Gone 4ever Registered Senior Member

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    So where does the energy come from then ?

    Dear Paul,

    In all your previous communications, you mentioned a potential barrier that may get broken and hence unleash vast amounts of energy upon us. This barrier has to stand between our universe and "something else" (let's coin that a "subuniverse", as I am still not convinced "de Sitter" space is an appropriate word) ; the potential barrier between the Fermilab experiment and the supernova energy cannot be a barrier in our own universe, since that would imply that the supernova energy would already be present in our universe. The later cannot be the case since this amount of energy would have already spread out in the form of radiation or similar, and would have engulfed us already. So we are forced to conclude that this "hidden" energy has to be in some "subuniverse".

    This "subuniverse" can only be two things: either it is some parallel or underlying universe, or it is hidden in some form in extra dimensions unknownst to us. Since the extra dimensions are no problem according to the quote above, the energy you talk about must be stored in some parallel/underlying universe.

    As I've stated before, there is no experimental evidence, or generally accepted theory that proves or assumes the existance of a parallel universe. Ironically enough, it will be through high-energy experimentation with particle accelerators such as the one at Fermilab, that will give the final conclusion on the existance of parallel universa or extra dimensions.

    In the end this entire discussion comes down to the question whether extra dimensions or anything similar beyond the known universe exists. Unless you have a repeatable experimental result that points in this direction, or a theoretically founded argument in favor for either of these, I am afraid the entire scientific community will dismiss the idea of a supernova from high-energetic experimentation as weakly argumented theoretical "spielerei" (and this is a general remark, not an attack on your person).

    Sincerely,

    Crisp
     
  12. Paul W. Dixon Registered Senior Member

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    May we thank all of our friends and colleagues for their kind interest in these most pressing matters.

    The relationship between the continuum and de Sitter space is given in the references cited from the most respected journals, Science and Nature, given in the communication of Paul W. Dixon of 03-04-01 10:10 AM. Here we see that a potentially infinite number of universes can form within de Sitter space. In the sense of this discussion, therefore, it may be understood that our universe is a subuniverse of the larger cosmos of de Sitter space. This is the mainstream theory of modern cosmology. This may be thought of as another Copernican revolution, in the sense that our planet is no longer the center of the universe in the original heliocentric theory of Nikolai Copernicus nor is our universe now the central universe in the modern cosmology of Andrei Linde. This is a difficult concept to grasp and its conceptual magnitude may then account for the number of observations of Type Ia supernovae in our immediate universe. From a topological perspective, where our universe is not is then de Sitter space - albeit behind a large potential barrier.

    May we thank you for your most kind efforts in notifying the director of Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory concerning these vast energies resident in de Sitter space. All of the children will thank you for your kind efforts on behalf.

    All best wishes,

    Yours sincerely,

    Paul W. Dixon, Ph.D.
    Supernova from Experimentation
     
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  13. Paul W. Dixon Registered Senior Member

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    SUPERNOVA FROM EXPERIMENTATION AT FERMILAB

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    We thank one and all for your most kind interest in these most salient concerns.

    The experimentation now underway at Fermilab, chronicled in the Accelerator update on the Fermilab homepage, indicates that the luminosity now employed at the accelerator is 7.4 E30. In scientific notation, this is 7.4 x 10 to the 30th power particle interactions (collisional impacts). With a beam energy of approximately 10 to the 11th power electron volts, we have then the energy of current work at Fermilab set at 7.4 x 10 to the 41st power electon volts (7.4 E41 eV). This is much larger than the largest energies seen on earth via cosmic ray interactions at 10 to the 19th power eV (E19 eV). Without your kind efforts regarding this most critical danger, a breach in the potential barrier may occur at any moment thus releasing the force of a supernova on our planet and our solar system. We may thus generate an intrusional event from from de Sitter space in the Einstein de Sitter universe as it is now termed.

    Your kind and generous action on behalf of all mankind is greatly needed at this critical juncture or all is lost and we shall all perish.

    All good wishes,

    Yours sincerely,

    Paul W. Dixon, Ph.D.
    Supernova from Experimentation
     
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  14. Paul W. Dixon Registered Senior Member

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    SUPERNOVA FROM EXPERIMENTATION AT FERMILAB

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    May we thank you for your most kind interest in this very great potential for disaster.

    Please access the live viewing for ongoing experimentation at Fermilab for the CDF under inquiring minds on the Fermi National Accelerator Webpage. In the chronology of these events, No. 131972 demonstrates a monojet of electromagnetic energy of > 30 GeV. It is this kind of monojet which, under this postulation, heralds the intrusional event from de Sitter space. Some precursor events may be visible which are then illustrative of small 'leaks' in the potential barrier towards de Sitter space. There may be other events of this nature which become visible as this research continues. Please be so kind as to report them to us, since it is the nature of this research enterprise to seek novel results for Nobel prizes or otherwise.

    All of the children will thank you for your most kind efforts on their behalf in the prevention of yet another most grave and horrible disaster to the good people of the United States of America and to the entire world.

    Every best wish,

    Yours sincerely,

    Paul W. Dixon, Ph.D.
    Supernova from Experimentation
     
  15. Paul W. Dixon Registered Senior Member

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    Your kind interest and concern in these most pressing and important matters are gratefully appreciated.

    A seminar by Raphael Bousso of Stanford entitled Global Structure of the Inflationary Universe
    (http://www-astro-theory.fnal.gov/Seminars/spring99/Bousso.html) at Fermilab showed the result for a similar cosmology to that of Andrei Linde for the generation of n-number of universes from de Sitter space. Professor Bousso states, "I show that de Sitter sapce disintegrates into an infinite number of copies of itself... Applied to cosmology, this process leads to the production of a large or infinite number of universes in most models of inflation and yields a new picture of global structure."

    We note also that the emittance (particle density) of the beam at Fermilab has been increased so that the median energy at the CDF is some 39.25 GeV whilst the high value has now gone to 95.21 GeV (event 3052348, run 126097). May we request of Professor Michael Witherell, Director of Fermilab, that this research be halted until the limits of the strength of the potential barrier be established in a peer reviewed journal or this potential barrier will be breached thus releasing the force of a supernova on our planet and solar system.

    All mankind and every child now and in all future time will thank you for your kind offices on their behalf.

    We have witnessed most grave disasters in our recent history. Let us not have another greater one of our own devising.

    All best wishes,

    Yours sincerely,

    Paul W. Dixon, Ph.D.
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  16. Paul W. Dixon Registered Senior Member

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    All friends and colleagues: may we thank you for your great concern and attention in this most salient matter of catastrophe prevention.

    Recent work at the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory has gone to 7.5E30, which is then the frequency of particle collisions at the CDF between protons and antiprotons (anti-matter) in the ring. In scientific notation, this is
    7.5 x 10 to the 30th power collisional interactions at some 10E12 eV per interaction per second per cm squared. With increased precision of focusing(emittance), this figure of 10E42 eV per second is far greater than the E19 eV of the relatively infrequent cosmic rays found in cosmic ray observations. It may be then only chance alone which has prevented the formation of a transition towards de Sitter space and hence
    the generation of a supernova here on earth.

    Charles Seife on page 188 of his mathematical text, Zero, (Penguin Books) mentions a transition towards the zero (lower energy condition). He states," This hasn't stopped some believers-physicists included-from picketing high-energy laboratories like Fermilab, they beleive that a high-energy collision could cause a spontaneous collapse of the vacuum." The hypothesis, here put forward, is for the collider to form a transition towards the high-energy condition, i.e., de Sitter space.

    All of the children now and in all future time will thank you for your kind efforts on their behalf.

    All good wishes,

    Yours sincerely,

    Paul W. Dixon, Ph.D.
    Supernova from Experimentation
     
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  17. Paul W. Dixon Registered Senior Member

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    Friends and colleagues: many, many thanks for your kind interest in these most salient matters.

    To explicate those variables necessary for generation of Type Ia supernovae under this postulation, it may be helpful for those who have come to this discussion more recently to consider the following:

    1. The concentration of energies in the focal point of the accelerator such as the CDF at Fermilab is much greater in terms of electon volts ,eV, than that which is found in nature. We see, therefore, the solitary and widely dispersed cosmic ray at 10 to the 19th power eV in contast to the current work at Fermilab at 7.5E44 = 7.5 x 10 to the 42th power eV per centimeter squared per second. None of the replies put forward have been able to answer this point at all.

    2. The attractive properties of de Sitter space provide an increased likelihood that the transition made in the accelerator will be to the highly energetic conditions seen in the equations for de Sitter space and not to the lower (zero) energy condition.

    3. It may be found, that the primordial state of de Sitter space as well as those conditions now being altered in the accelerator at Fermilab form a kind of lattice or key which permits the formation of a transition towards de Sitter space and hence supernova generation.

    All of the children will thank you for your kind efforts on their behalf.

    Yours sincerely,

    Paul W. Dixon, Ph.D.
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  18. Crisp Gone 4ever Registered Senior Member

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    Hi Paul,

    "We see, therefore, the solitary and widely dispersed cosmic ray at 10 to the 19th power eV in contast to the current work at Fermilab at 7.5E44 = 7.5 x 10 to the 42th power eV per centimeter squared per second. None of the replies put forward have been able to answer this point at all."

    Some of the replies did: we pointed out that the number is not as large as it seems, and that it is not correctly used within the context (messages by Steven23 and myself).

    "The attractive properties of de Sitter space provide an increased likelihood that the transition made in the accelerator will be to the highly energetic conditions seen in the equations for de Sitter space and not to the lower (zero) energy condition."

    If the "de Sitter space" has attractive properties, then there is no danger: anything entering it will remain there forever, as there is no repulse behaviour according to that reasoning.

    Bye!

    Crisp
     
  19. scorpio Registered Senior Member

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    I am wondering...

    Hi everybody...
    I am new in this forum, and I have read with a lot of interest the messages from Paul and all the numerous answers (I admire the patience that some of you have had to address Paul's comments, and also the high level of some of these answers)...
    ..and now I am wondering what Paul wants (I am reluctant to address it directly and personnally to you, Paul, because I do believe that you will NOT answer, as you do most of the time) !!!
    I have several hypothesis in mind:
    1) It is a bet: Paul has bet with friends and/or collegues that he could make a lot of people answering and reacting to his 'bla bla' (this is a french term - may be you would say babbling?), for some time ?
    2) May be it is a psychological experiment, part of Paul's job, to collect a lot of reactions, answers, and analyze them (and write some nice article in some Journal of Psychology) ?
    3) May be Paul is an alien coming from a parallel subspace that was created as one of the numerous (infinite?) spaces created during the phase transition following the BigBang and predicted in Paul Guth's Inflationary theory (OK I am joking,

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    I couldn't resist...)
    4) Or may be Paul is overanxious about this world, physics in general that are difficult to understand etc... May be he needs to see a doctor ?

    I am anyway in full agreements with all remarks/comments and additions made by Crisp, Plato (Boujour à tous deux!) Steven23, Plato and Kmguru !!!

    Scorpio

    PS for those interested, I suggest reading 'The Inflationary Universe' from Paul Guth, 1997, Helix Books/Addison-Wesley - Very interesting and very accessible, no equations...)
     
  20. daktaklakpak God is irrelevant! Registered Senior Member

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    Has this experiment failed miserably or what?

    How come there is still no supernova?
     
  21. Paul W. Dixon Registered Senior Member

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    Friends and colleagues: may we offer our great thanks for your kind interest in this most salient concern.

    As mentioned previously, penetrance through the domain wall towards de Sitter space permits the rapid emergence of an exploding universe, with its time vector tau, also expanding exponentially until the momentum is adsorbed within the true vacuum region. The energies of 1.6 x 10 to the 126th power eV per cubic centimeter resident in de Sitter space may account for this exploding universe phenomenon. (Perry, M. J. Quantum tunnelling towards an exploding Universe? Nature Vol 330, 24 April 1986, p.679)

    We may note that the energies an exploding hydrogen bomb are some 10 to the 7th power eV per cubic centimeter. Where the energies of a cosmic ray are measured at 10 to the 19th power eV, their point origin must lie in supernovae, quasars or other highly energetic events. Those energies now observed at Fermilab are some 25 orders of magnitude greater than those found in these cosmic ray observations. Surely this is sufficient to penetrate the very large, though finite, potential barrier towards de Sitter space.

    As Richard Feynman, Nobel Prize winner in Physics, stated in the formal inquiry on the Last Flight of the Challenger; what is safe at time A may not be safe at time B in experimental work.

    Your kind offices will earn you the eternal gratitude of all the children.

    Yours sincerely,

    Paul W. Dixon, Ph.D.
    Supernova from Experimentation

    All Best Wishes,
     
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  22. Crisp Gone 4ever Registered Senior Member

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    Disagreement

    Dear Paul,

    We may note that the energies an exploding hydrogen bomb are some 10 to the 7th power eV per cubic centimeter. Where the energies of a cosmic ray are measured at 10 to the 19th power eV, their point origin must lie in supernovae, quasars or other highly energetic events.

    Two remarks:
    - You are mixing up different quantities again, the number of hydrogen bombs is an energydensity, while the cosmic ray number is an energylevel. These cannot be compared as densities can be made arbitrarely large. Eg. 10^7 eV/cm^3 equals 10^22 eV/km^3. This number seems larger, but it isn't. Also, the number for the hydrogen bomb energy density seems a bit underestimated, as an eV is really REALLY a very small unit of energy (1 Joule = 10^19 eV, so that would add up to about 10& (-12) Joules / cm^3... Considering that hydrogen bombs heat up matter to several million degrees Celsius, this seems a bit small).

    - The cosmic ray energy you state is one of the highest ever estimated. The average cosmic ray energy is about 2 GeV = 2*10^9 eV, which is a lot smaller.

    Those energies now observed at Fermilab are some 25 orders of magnitude greater than those found in these cosmic ray observations. Surely this is sufficient to penetrate the very large, though finite, potential barrier towards de Sitter space.

    As we pointed out already, the orders of magnitude can be put into perspective. And also, I don't think "Surely this is..." suffices as an argument to pursuade people here.

    Bye!

    Crisp
     
  23. John Devers (AVATAR) Registered Senior Member

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    Hi from Australia Paul, wow what can I say, I've been searching for blow by blow descriptions of what's going on at fermilab.

    It's a shame they haven't got a daily transcript like this on their web page about the search for the Higgs boson.

    I'd really like to read something rather than try to understand the live collision photos.


    <A HREF="http://www.fnal.gov/pub/inquiring/live_events/index.html" target=new><FONT COLOR=blue size=+1> Fermilab collisions live </FONT></A>
     
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