Supernatural?

Please post on topic, and try to make some sense.
DaveC426913

1. Misquote, it is "nothing More than", Cap sensitive
2. The cryptogram Authour
3. Entropy (free will). - see below -
4. For ("f-u-n") - see top -

exchemist

Absolutely. O Lucifer, the Devil, and Satan ciphers say
("f-r-e-e" "w-i-l-l") - see above -
Even that old Serpent ["a-n-c-i-e-n-t"] cipher say
("f-r-e-e" "w-i-l-l") - see top -
 
Write4U said:
Well sure, we all use some expressions incorrectly, especially exclamations!....:eek:

But a biblical miracle is defined thus; What is the meaning of miracle in the Bible?
Miracle | Definition of Miracle at Dictionary.com
www.dictionary.com › browse › miracle

Just because people use a phrase incorrectly doesn't make it true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle

An example of a biblical term of a divine nature and using it in a mundane expression, a poetic license.

"Many a time I have witnessed a miraculous sunrise, heralding a renewal of the world".

Hmmm... I rather like that....:)
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Here a Miracle of Physics & Math per Your Definition of Miracle

O Lucifer, the Devil, and Satan ciphers; Even that old Serpent,
the Ancient cipher; say G=2/c, c=2/G, 2=G*c (natural units)

Why does G=2/c, c=2/G, 2=G*c (natural units) ?
the G's gravitation, Two's 2, the c's Speed of light

Lord God Almighty 144,000-bit LGA
 
Thomas Coleman Younger said:
Here a Miracle of Physics & Math per Your Definition of Miracle
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I only cited the accepted definition of the word "miracle" as commonly defined . In case you missed it.

What is the meaning of miracle in the Bible?
1. an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause.
2. such an effect or event manifesting or considered as a work of God.
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Miracle | Definition of Miracle at Dictionary.com
www.dictionary.com › browse › miracle

There are no miracles in Physics or Mathematics.
Thomas Coleman Younger said:
Lord God Almighty 144,000-bit LGA
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Is no more meaningful than;
Lord God Almighty 1 + 1 = 2 !

Actually it is proof that, if there is a God, it has to obey the mathematical laws of the Universe......:rolleyes:
 
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Write4U said:
Lord God Almighty 1 + 1 = 2 !

Actually it is proof that, if there is a God,
it has to obey the mathematical laws of the Universe......:rolleyes:
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like Zero (0) over Zero (0) laws?......:rolleyes:

And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

http://www.sciforums.com/threads/why-does-g-2-c-c-2-g-2-g-c-natural-units.163008/
http://www.sciforums.com/threads/ol-cryptogram-of-physics-and-math.163003/
http://www.sciforums.com/threads/o-lucifer.162997/ Square root of minus 1

Lord God Almighty 144,000-bit LGA

Universe = 1/c^4 = 1.23456789... x 10^-42 s^4/cm^4
four-dimensional time/space universe
Speed c = 3 x 10^10 cm/s, G = .666... x 10^-7 cm^3/g*s^2
one (1) plus (1) one is Zero (0) is the miracle

O Lucifer, the Devil, and Satan ciphers,
What are their Laws of the Universe?
Error, Undefined, Error, Undefined

the Ancient Serpent cipher
 
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Thomas Coleman Younger said:
And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
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That is the speech of a seriously dangerous mind. As demonstrated by your chosen avatar.
You're now on ignore. Be well and sane. Click.
 
The signal security (the goddesses stuff) of these cryptograms got the best of Write4U who obviously is not a cryptographer. Probably believes in imaginary gods, imaginary numbers, imaginary devils and the imaginary flying spaghetti monster. Write4U's always run when their math errors and math undefineds are exposed, because they have no answers. Fortunately however, unlike the Write4U's, the cryptograms do. All of them.

the Square Root of Minus 1 cipher
 
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Thomas Coleman Younger said:
like Zero (0) over Zero (0) laws?......:rolleyes:

And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

http://www.sciforums.com/threads/why-does-g-2-c-c-2-g-2-g-c-natural-units.163008/
http://www.sciforums.com/threads/ol-cryptogram-of-physics-and-math.163003/
http://www.sciforums.com/threads/o-lucifer.162997/ Square root of minus 1

Lord God Almighty 144,000-bit LGA

Universe = 1/c^4 = 1.23456789... x 10^-42 s^4/cm^4
four-dimensional time/space universe
Speed c = 3 x 10^10 cm/s, G = .666... x 10^-7 cm^3/g*s^2
one (1) plus (1) one is Zero (0) is the miracle

O Lucifer, the Devil, and Satan ciphers,
What are their Laws of the Universe?
Error, Undefined, Error, Undefined

the Ancient Serpent cipher
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Reported as inane. I'm sorry for whatever is wrong with you but I would prefer that this crap wasn't clogging up the forum.
 
James R said:
Dictionaries record the ways in which people use words. They are descriptive, not prescriptive.
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A good one is also prescriptive. That's exactly why people consult them, eh?

The definition of supernatural will vary according to the definer's notion of "natural". If the universe is agreed to be deterministic by nature, then the supernatural will be all and only that which can do other than what the universe determines it do, for example. Someone who did not think the universe was deterministic would need a different definition.
 
iceaura said:
A good one is also prescriptive. That's exactly why people consult them, eh?

The definition of supernatural will vary according to the definer's notion of "natural". If the universe is agreed to be deterministic by nature, then the supernatural will be all and only that which can do other than what the universe determines it do, for example. Someone who did not think the universe was deterministic would need a different definition.
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Deterministic is too narrow. Quantum theory precludes it.
 
mathman said:
Deterministic is too narrow. Quantum theory precludes it.
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Quantum theory (superposition) does not accommodate the concept of Determinism? How's that?

Who says that quantum collapse is not a deterministic action? Note that the associated "uncertainty" condition may well be a human observational limitation.

A superposition merely says that there are two deterministic probabilities, of which the true deterministic mathematical function will emerge during the collapse. If we cannot predict the future due to uncertainty, perhaps we are lacking sufficient measuring and analytical sophistication?
 
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Write4U said:
Quantum theory (superposition) does not accommodate the concept of Determinism? How's that?

Who says that quantum collapse is not a deterministic action? Note that the associated "uncertainty" condition may well be a human observational limitation.

A superposition merely says that there are two deterministic probabilities, of which the true deterministic mathematical function will emerge during the collapse. If we cannot predict the future due to uncertainty, perhaps we are lacking sufficient measuring and analytical sophistication?
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No. One of the first - and most important - things one learns about QM is that uncertainty is NOT a measurement problem.

"...the uncertainty principle actually states a fundamental property of quantum systems and is not a statement about the observational success of current technology."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle
 
mathman said:
Uncertainty principle is a physics limitation, not human observation.
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OK, and what does that mean? No Determinism?
Apparently, uncertainty does not prevent us from making deterministic predictions with exquisite precision.

Is it possible that at Planck scale there is only formation of fundamental physical patterns (physics), but has no influence in the subsequent value driven (mathematical) interaction of these physical patterns.

Reality is a deterministic process of manifesting mathematical patterns of various densities via mathematical functions (mechanics) on the constituent particles.

Subreality is an uncertain probabilistic formative process, due to the near unlimited ways the three elementary Planck scale particles can interact to produce all matter as we know it.

Regardless of uncertainty, both superposed states are mathematically allowable, as long as the collapse resolves into a single (remaining) state.

Evolution is the expression of "uncertainty at Planck scale", resulting in the emergence of a new pattern. If not, the concept of evolution itself is fundamentally non-deterministic, no?

Can we say that uncertainty at Planck scale may not have an influence on the deterministic mathematical functions in the process of physical expression at all?
 
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DaveC426913 said:
No. One of the first - and most important - things one learns about QM is that uncertainty is NOT a measurement problem.

"...the uncertainty principle actually states a fundamental property of quantum systems and is not a statement about the observational success of current technology."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle
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I agree. That is my very argument
mathaman said; ↑ Uncertainty principle is a physics limitation, not human observation.
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W4U said;
OK, and what does that mean? No Determinism?
Apparently, uncertainty does not prevent us from making deterministic predictions with exquisite precision.
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Write4U said:
Is it possible that at Planck scale there is only formation of fundamental physical patterns (physics), but has no influence in the subsequent value driven (mathematical) interaction of these physical patterns.
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No. Because mathematics is a human invention, and the relevant physics precedes humans.
 
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