Olga:
It is truly horrible that you're supporting genocide and trying to justify it. I hope that, one day, you become a better person than you are right now. Trying to defend the slaughter of innocent children makes you a monster.
Is this what your religion has done to you?
Apparently, you have not seen those horrible shots of the mutilated bodies of Jewish hostages.
Now you want me to look at photographs of mutilated bodies?
Do I have to do that to know that they were murdered?
It's easy to judge when it's not about you personally.
It's easy for me to work out that genocide is a crime against humanity. It's easy for me to work out that murdering innocent children is wrong.
I don't know what your problem is.
Have you tried to put yourself in the place of the relatives of these victims, or in the place of these victims?
Yes. Have you tried to put yourself in the place of a Palestinian mother whose 3 year old child was shot through the head by an IDF sniper, as the two of them were walking together to try to collect some food to eat?
Would you forgive terrorists?
I don't have much sympathy for terrorists who kill innocent people, Olga. Do you?
Pin, Christianity teaches love, not violence.
In Matthew 10:34, Jesus says "Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword."
This verse is usually interpreted as meaning that Jesus creates division between those who believe in him and those who do not. Nearby verses in Matthew describe family members turning against one another.
While this may not be physical violence, it is not a message of unity.
And the Old Testament simply describes the mores of that time.
The Old Testament purports to be a record of what the god Yahweh said and did, before the life of Jesus, and how the actions and words of the god affected the people of Israel.
Previously, I gave you an example of where God directly commands Moses and his soldiers to murder innocent children.
If you want to say that the bible is a semi-fictional work that simply reflects the barbarity of the times in which it was written, you won't get a lot of disagreement from me. But I was under the impression that you thought the bible told the truth about God and God's actions.
Was I wrong? Do you think the bible is fiction, Olga?
Tell me, Olga. Does your God endorse things like slavery, genocide and the murder of innocent children, or does he not?
God did not command people to kill each other.
Don't tell lies. I gave you a specific example from the bible. There are many more from the bible that I could have given you.
People did it themselves, without any commands.
Not according the bible.
Ancient man most often did not understand why it was forbidden to kill others.
It wasn't forbidden to kill others. In fact, I gave you a specific example of where God commanded it.
Humanity must have suffered enough before it began to understand that violence is bad.
Nonsense.
The entire Old Testament tells us how people lived before the appearance of Christ.
Specifically, it tells a semi-fictional story about the people of ancient Israel and the god they carried with them, called YHWH. In passing, it does tell us something of how those people lived, but that is far from its main focus.
That is, it really shows us how not to do it.
If murdering innocent children is wrong, why did God command it, Olga?
The more valuable are the Christian commandments.
Did Jesus say that his followers should reject the Old Testament and the Jewish law? Or did he say that his followers should follow all the existing laws, and that none of them should be altered by anything Jesus had to say?
Which is it, Olga? What does the bible say about what Jesus said about the Jewish laws?
It's like a comparison: how it was - and how it should be.
Is it? Where in the bible does Jesus discuss the old laws and say "Those don't apply any more. Follow these new ones instead."?
