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Safest and Most Dangerous Cities in U.S.
Nov 21 12:06 AM US/Eastern

By The Associated Press
Following are the safest and most dangerous cities with populations
over 75,000, according to Morgan Quitno Press.

Safest Cities:

1. Newton, Mass.

2. Clarkstown, N.Y.

3. Amherst, N.Y.

4. Mission Viejo, Calif.

5. Brick Township, N.J.

6. Troy, Mich.

7. Thousand Oaks, Calif.

8. Round Rock, Texas

9. Lake Forest, Calif.

10. Cary, N.C.

Most Dangerous Cities:

1. Camden, N.J.

2. Detroit

3. St. Louis

4. Flint, Mich.

5. Richmond, Va.

6. Baltimore

7. Atlanta

8. New Orleans

9. Gary, Ind.

10. Birmingham, Ala.

Gee, I wonder why these cities are so different?
 
valich said:
The safest city in the U.S. is probably "Nobody," Arizona. Population: 0.
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MOST DANGEROUS CITIES:

1. Camden, N.J.

* Black (53.3%)
* Hispanic (38.8%)
* Other race (22.8%)
* White Non-Hispanic (7.1%)
* Two or more races (3.9%)
* Vietnamese (1.6%)
* American Indian (1.2%)

2. Detroit

Black (81.6%)
White Non-Hispanic (10.5%)
Hispanic (5.0%)
Other race (2.5%)
Two or more races (2.3%)
American Indian (0.9%)

3. St. Louis

Black (51.2%)
White Non-Hispanic (42.9%)
Hispanic (2.0%)
Two or more races (1.9%)
Vietnamese (1.0%)
American Indian (0.8%)
Other race (0.8%)

4. Flint, Mich.

Black (53.3%)
White Non-Hispanic (40.0%)
Two or more races (3.1%)
Hispanic (3.0%)
American Indian (2.2%)
Other race (1.1%)

5. Richmond, Va.

Black (57.2%)
White Non-Hispanic (37.7%)
Hispanic (2.6%)
Other race (1.5%)
Two or more races (1.5%)
American Indian (0.7%)

6. Baltimore

Black (64.3%)
White Non-Hispanic (31.0%)
Hispanic (1.7%)
Two or more races (1.5%)
American Indian (0.8%)
Other race (0.7%)

7. Atlanta

Black (61.4%)
White Non-Hispanic (31.3%)
Hispanic (4.5%)
Other race (2.0%)
Two or more races (1.2%)
Asian Indian (0.6%)
American Indian (0.5%)

8. New Orleans

Black (67.3%)
White Non-Hispanic (26.6%)
Hispanic (3.1%)
Vietnamese (1.5%)
Two or more races (1.3%)
Other race (0.9%)
American Indian (0.5%)

9. Gary, Ind.

Black (84.0%)
White Non-Hispanic (10.1%)
Hispanic (4.9%)
Other race (2.0%)
Two or more races (1.7%)
American Indian (0.7%)

10. Birmingham, Ala.

Black (73.5%)
White Non-Hispanic (23.5%)
Hispanic (1.6%)
Two or more races (0.8%)
Other race (0.6%)

MOST SAFEST CITIES

Races in Newton:

White Non-Hispanic (86.4%)
Chinese (4.8%)
Hispanic (2.5%)
Black (2.0%)
Two or more races (1.5%)
Asian Indian (0.9%)
Other race (0.7%)
Korean (0.6%)

Races in Clarkstown:

White Non-Hispanic (76.0%)
Black (7.9%)
Hispanic (6.9%)
Asian Indian (3.0%)
Filipino (2.1%)
Two or more races (2.0%)
Other race (2.0%)
Chinese (1.2%)
Korean (1.0%)

Races in Amherst:

White Non-Hispanic (88.4%)
Black (3.9%)
Asian Indian (1.7%)
Chinese (1.6%)
Hispanic (1.4%)
Two or more races (1.1%)
Korean (0.9%)

Races in Mission Viejo:

White Non-Hispanic (76.0%)
Hispanic (12.1%)
Other race (3.8%)
Two or more races (3.6%)
Filipino (1.6%)
Chinese (1.6%)
Vietnamese (1.2%)
Black (1.1%)
Japanese (1.1%)
American Indian (0.9%)
Asian Indian (0.9%)
Korean (0.8%)
Other Asian (0.6%)

Brick Township, NJ: no data

Races in Troy:
White Non-Hispanic (81.3%)
Asian Indian (5.7%)
Chinese (3.8%)
Black (2.1%)
Two or more races (1.8%)
Korean (1.5%)
Hispanic (1.5%)
Filipino (1.0%)
Other Asian (0.7%)

Races in Thousand Oaks:

White Non-Hispanic (77.7%)
Hispanic (13.1%)
Other race (4.5%)
Two or more races (2.8%)
Chinese (2.1%)
Black (1.1%)
American Indian (1.0%)
Asian Indian (0.8%)
Japanese (0.8%)
Filipino (0.7%)
Korean (0.7%)

Races in Round Rock:

White Non-Hispanic (65.6%)
Hispanic (22.1%)
Other race (9.5%)
Black (7.7%)
Two or more races (2.6%)
American Indian (0.9%)
Vietnamese (0.7%)
Asian Indian (0.6%)

Races in Lake Forest:

White Non-Hispanic (66.7%)
Hispanic (18.6%)
Other race (7.5%)
Two or more races (4.2%)
Vietnamese (2.4%)
Filipino (2.2%)
Black (1.8%)

Races in Cary:

White Non-Hispanic (79.7%)
Black (6.1%)
Hispanic (4.3%)
Asian Indian (3.5%)
Chinese (2.3%)
Two or more races (1.8%)
Other race (1.5%)
Korean (0.6%)
Vietnamese (0.6%)
American Indian (0.6%)
Other Asian (0.5%)
American Indian (1.2%)
Chinese (1.2%)
Korean (1.1%)
Asian Indian (1.1%)
Japanese (1.0%)
Other Asian (0.8%)
 
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Thanks, JB, that race breakdown sure tells us a lot, don't it?! But I wonder who will actually take note of it? And how many will deny the facts out-of-hand?

Baron Max
 
spuriousmonkey said:
it doesn't say anything actually ....
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Really? Like, as a scientist asked to review those facts and make some connections and/or correlations, you couldn't do it? Nothing? No connections whatsoever?

And you could deny anyone else's connections and/or correlations? How ...just by making the above assinine statement??? :)

Baron Max
 
According to the above data, the most dangerous cities have between 51.2-81.6% Blacks, while the safest have only 2.0-7.9% Blacks. That's a considerable and statististically significant difference! But I see no such other significant coorelation between any of the other ethnic group. I wonder what factors are used to determine "dangerous"?
 
Baron:

Correlation does not equal causation.

valich:

Yes, I too would like to know the basis on which "dangerousness" is quantified.
 
Also, although not nearly as significant, there are no percentages of Chinese in any of the most dangerous cities, but 1.2-4.8% in the safest. However he omitted any demographic data at all on Troy, Mich (6th most safest).
 
valich said:
According to the above data, the most dangerous cities have between 51.2-81.6% Blacks, while the safest have only 2.0-7.9% Blacks. That's a considerable and statististically significant difference! But I see no such other significant coorelation between any of the other ethnic group. I wonder what factors are used to determine "dangerous"?
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????

Why wonder? It's based entirely on crime statistics (reported crimes).
 
Usually these type of conclusions are based on homicides, assaults, rapes, and robberies, but certainly not all crimes (speeding tickets and jay-walking?). So the specific types of crimes are important in determining safety. But also what kind of safety? Safety just to your personal life? Or property too? Then, what makes a city dangerous? Just crime? What about traffic accidents, police responce time, the number of policemen and firemen per capita, pollution, health care available, rates of cancer, unemployment. I doubt any study determines what constitutes a dangerous city from a safe one in the exact same ways.
 
valich said:
Usually these type of conclusions are based on homicides, assaults, rapes, and robberies, but certainly not all crimes (speeding tickets and jay-walking?). So the specific types of crimes are important in determining safety. But also what kind of safety? Safety just to your personal life? Or property too? Then, what makes a city dangerous? Just crime? What about traffic accidents, police responce time, the number of policemen and firemen per capita, pollution, health care available, rates of cancer, unemployment. I doubt any study determines what constitutes a dangerous city from a safe one in the exact same ways.
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All of the ones I've seen use precisely the same criteria - number of violent crimes per capita. Jaywalking, traffic accidents, health care, etc. don't relate to crimes in any way that I can see.
 
JB, yet again, continues to dwell in the blind affirmation that correlation implies causation.
 
Facial said:
JB, yet again, continues to dwell in the blind affirmation that correlation implies causation.
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Yeah, the dangerousness must be caused by contaminated drinking water! Or perhaps there's something in the drinking water in those cities that causes blacks to fuck more and have more babies?

Of course, it could show that blacks love being around close to danger and death and crime, so they all move into the dangerous cities? :)

I'm just sure that there are numerous excuses on why those stats are the way they are ...and I'm not worried, however, because the liberal, bleeding-hearts will come up with good excuses if they're given enough time! :)

Baron Max
 
Baron. did you ever get any statistical training?

I think the answer is no.

Because you seem to think that you can draw any conclusion from these figures.
They are just percentages. There is NO statistical analysis of ANY correlation in these figures. If you think there is read a book on statistical analysis.
 
J.B said:
Safest and Most Dangerous Cities in U.S.
Nov 21 12:06 AM US/Eastern

By The Associated Press
Following are the safest and most dangerous cities with populations
over 75,000, according to Morgan Quitno Press.

Safest Cities:

1. Newton, Mass.

2. Clarkstown, N.Y.

3. Amherst, N.Y.

4. Mission Viejo, Calif.

5. Brick Township, N.J.

6. Troy, Mich.

7. Thousand Oaks, Calif.

8. Round Rock, Texas

9. Lake Forest, Calif.

10. Cary, N.C.

Most Dangerous Cities:

1. Camden, N.J.

2. Detroit

3. St. Louis

4. Flint, Mich.

5. Richmond, Va.

6. Baltimore

7. Atlanta

8. New Orleans

9. Gary, Ind.

10. Birmingham, Ala.

Gee, I wonder why these cities are so different?
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THE most dangerous city is inside your head jb!
 
duendy said:
THE most dangerous city is inside your head jb!
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Duendy, what the heck are you doing in this thread? You probably don't even know where half those cities are.

Just go away.
 
Light said:
All of the ones I've seen use precisely the same criteria - number of violent crimes per capita. Jaywalking, traffic accidents, health care, etc. don't relate to crimes in any way that I can see.
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Well I'm sorry but I have to disagree. Forbes magazine, for instance, takes more into account. If all studies used the same criteria then they would all reach the same conclusion: but they never do! You will not find two studies that reach the same ratings for the same "most dangerous" and most "safest" cities.

There are far more factors involved that I just quickly threw out. But even aside from this you have to look at the degree of racial prejudice existing within the cities: for instance Detroit and Cleveland has a lot of racial prejucice agaist Blacks - and consiquently they are highly segregated cities! Then go down to Birmingham, Alabama and judge the degree of segration and racial prejudice there. Does the data of this study factor in all this? He doesn't even state his source! How could we know? Do races within these cities live together in harmony, our are there large geographic isolation areas where ethnic groups are segrated? This is a major factor relating to "danger" and "safety," i.e. where you are if and when, to be subjected to live-and-death danger.
 
My mistake, he cites the "Associated Press" as the source, but of course this is only a reporter relaying the info from the direct source. If we knew the direct source, then "perhaps" - no guarantee - the data would be more clear.
 
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